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Also, how would you load them out?

At first I was thinking Flayed Ones would be cool to attach him to, as they both Deep Strike and he helps with the one thing massed Flayed Ones struggle against: vehicles... but then I realized his ability to reroll 1s to wound would be wasted on something that already has Shred.

I'm thinking the best thing to stick him to would A) be fast, and B) have something cool happen on a roll of a six.

Being the case, what salty combos are you guys thinking will work the best?

Either variety of Praetorians and then Wraiths. Wraiths especially, when you add the Exile guns on them. Enjoy killing a Monstrous Creature each turn.

Wraiths with T.beamers benefit the most from PE. The Lord only slightly slows them down and the turn your going to assault you can break him off to assault something else if you feel your too far for the charge and need fleet to help the wraiths. Praets are a close second making their ap2 even scarier, plus you can deep strike a squad with PE for a nice alpha strike on a back field unit.

As for equipment I like to go ham on the thing, give it the warscythe is a must, I really like the invulnerable save as well it makes you really tanky to almost anything, and then I like giving it the shroud because even though it pricey a 2+ save is nasty on a character like that(plus against armies without and "they shall know no rules" you get fear.

Yeah Canoptek Harvests w/ T Beamers, Destroyer Lord is pretty awesome.

I love the idea of attaching him to a big unit of Scarabs, just because that would be really funny.

Hmm,
D.Lord
+
20 Warriors VS 9 Scarabs

Rerolling 1s for things that auto wound/glance on a 6 is VERY handy, especially when there's a lot of dice being thrown.
I guess it comes down to do you want to do it shooting or in CC?

Otherwise, yeah, Harvest Beamer Wraiths would be pretty damn glad to have PE. Definitely worth considering.

D Lord + wraiths may not be the unit that needs PE the most, but I feel that when you add a D Lord to the wraiths, they do benefit the most. I ran Orikan + D Lord with a unit of wraiths over 3 games this past weekend, and I mean just wow. Get that man a Res Orb and a Phase shifter + Nightmare shroud. Proceed to never die

Orikan didn't slow them down?

Also, new Alpha Strike Scarab Farm may be the perfect fit for a Destroyer Lord. Not only will you give a MASSIVE swarm the ability to reroll 1s into potential 6s, but they can act as a vehicle to slingshot your D.Lord into your opponent's deployment zone on turn one. If you multi charge you could potentially tie up an MC with the Scarabs while the D.Lord wrecks a vehicle.

 skoffs wrote:
Orikan didn't slow them down?

Also, new Alpha Strike Scarab Farm may be the perfect fit for a Destroyer Lord. Not only will you give a MASSIVE swarm the ability to reroll 1s into potential 6s, but they can act as a vehicle to slingshot your D.Lord into your opponent's deployment zone on turn one. If you multi charge you could potentially tie up an MC with the Scarabs while the D.Lord wrecks a vehicle.

A little bit, but only really an issue on Hammer and Anvil and I rolled Master of Ambush not really a reliable strategy, but self-ally just to get in another Cryptek with a veil, or Obyron, is pretty expensive. And Obyron can't keep up to tank like the Lord can.

Mythoughts on the destroyer lord are this. I feel as though he works very well with lychguard and a warscythe overlord with veil in a decurion or with a cad and replace overlord with cryptek with veil and solar staff. start them on the table, and have them jump up to wherever you need them to be, the dLord is very survivable so there is no need to get out the overlord to be your warlord, you can send the Overlord into the occasional challenge if you wish, if there is a better target for the Dlord. when you jump up into your opponent's deployment zone with a hard to kill unit filled with warscythes it causes alot of confusion, and battle lines change and if you plan it right, then the rest of your army can go wild on the units that had to react and put themselves in an awkward position. The d.lord could then seperate and do other things if you find an optimal safe time to do so. I playtested it finally saturday, and it worked extremely well

Frankly, I'm struggling to find a job that Lychguard do that another faster unit couldn't do better.
Don't get me wrong, I'm glad they got better, it's just their lack of mobility that kills it for me.
Sticking a D.Lord with them... well, they don't really do anything special on a 6, so even that novelty is lost on me.

Honestly the real killer for me is the fact that flayed ones just outperform them so much for the points. Are they as durable? No, but against everything that isn't MEQ, the flayed ones put out more damage. If you're going to have a slow unit, at least have some area denial and the ability to deep strike standard.


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And then there's wraiths of course

Tomb blades.

Re-rolling 1's to hit after TL gauss with ignores cover. Nice.

Ffyllotek wrote:
Tomb blades.

Re-rolling 1's to hit after TL gauss with ignores cover. Nice.

...
So you would rather use PE to reroll just ones to hit instead of using the Twinlinked rule to reroll all misses?

It's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for him

It's strange that attaching the Destroyer Lord to..... Destroyers isn't an option on the list

Preferred enemy works for shooting, but he's just too slow to go with units like Wraiths nowadays.

 grendel083 wrote:
It's strange that attaching the Destroyer Lord to..... Destroyers isn't an option on the list

Preferred enemy works for shooting, but he's just too slow to go with units like Wraiths nowadays.

So....moving 6" and then moving 2d6 in the assault phase (min of 8 and max of 18 with an average of 13"
per turn total) isn't enough to keep up with 12" move creatures? Not so sure about that....especially when a big roll more than makes up for a lackluster one on a different turn, and it only really matters for turns 1 and 2. After that, combat pile-ins will slingshot him forward

The job that Lychguard do better is... guard. (surprise!)

They're not an offensive unit. They're intended to be with your warlord, protecting him with 3++ RP Look Out Sirs and preventing the enemy from getting a warlord kill.

 luke1705 wrote:

 grendel083 wrote:
It's strange that attaching the Destroyer Lord to..... Destroyers isn't an option on the list

Preferred enemy works for shooting, but he's just too slow to go with units like Wraiths nowadays.

So....moving 6" and then moving 2d6 in the assault phase (min of 8 and max of 18 with an average of 13"
per turn total) isn't enough to keep up with 12" move creatures? Not so sure about that....especially when a big roll more than makes up for a lackluster one on a different turn, and it only really matters for turns 1 and 2. After that, combat pile-ins will slingshot him forward

Can you join a unit in the assault phase?

 grendel083 wrote:
It's strange that attaching the Destroyer Lord to..... Destroyers isn't an option on the list

Preferred enemy works for shooting, but he's just too slow to go with units like Wraiths nowadays.

Destroyers already have their own Preferred Enemy so gain nothing from being joined by a destroyer lord (since he doesn't get a compatible gun)

bodazoka wrote:

 luke1705 wrote:

 grendel083 wrote:
It's strange that attaching the Destroyer Lord to..... Destroyers isn't an option on the list

Preferred enemy works for shooting, but he's just too slow to go with units like Wraiths nowadays.

So....moving 6" and then moving 2d6 in the assault phase (min of 8 and max of 18 with an average of 13"
per turn total) isn't enough to keep up with 12" move creatures? Not so sure about that....especially when a big roll more than makes up for a lackluster one on a different turn, and it only really matters for turns 1 and 2. After that, combat pile-ins will slingshot him forward

Can you join a unit in the assault phase?

No, only the Movement phase.

So you constantly have to leap-frog the Lord from front to back to keep up. Maintaining coherency and a tactical position without slowing the unit down just isn't going to happen.
Yes he can keep up (as long as the assault move isn't fluffed), but in order to do so needs to get ahead of the unit (where he can be shot easily) so that the slow movement doesn't slow the entire unit.

Which is fine with me. But then again, I'm running the lord with the 2+ armor and Orikan so he wants to tank shots

Question: Deathmark's Ethereal Interception.
If a Destroyer Lord is attached to their unit, can they still use this rule immediately deep strike on the enemy turn after a unit enters from reserves?
If so, can the Destroyer Lord also fire his ranged weapons when they do? (in opponent's shooting phase)

If a Destroyer Lord is attached to a unit of Wraiths that doesn't charge, does he get to make his jet pack move?

Okapi wrote:
If a Destroyer Lord is attached to a unit of Wraiths that doesn't charge, does he get to make his jet pack move?

Bring it to YMDA, it's complicated and should be discussed with your group, but many people say yes.

Okapi wrote:
If a Destroyer Lord is attached to a unit of Wraiths that doesn't charge, does he get to make his jet pack move?

Yes. Precedent for this was established with Tau suits that can have the same thing happen. Most places have no issue with it

 skoffs wrote:
Question: Deathmark's Ethereal Interception.
If a Destroyer Lord is attached to their unit, can they still use this rule immediately deep strike on the enemy turn after a unit enters from reserves?
If so, can the Destroyer Lord also fire his ranged weapons when they do? (in opponent's shooting phase)

Doesnt the DLord need to have a Veil of Darkness so that he can deepstrike with the deathmarks (or FO for that matter)?

If so then what ranged weapon were you considering taking on him; staff of light, solar staff? If you were thinking about something from the ranged weapons list, the DLord cant take one.

xpress907 wrote:

 skoffs wrote:
Question: Deathmark's Ethereal Interception.
If a Destroyer Lord is attached to their unit, can they still use this rule immediately deep strike on the enemy turn after a unit enters from reserves?
If so, can the Destroyer Lord also fire his ranged weapons when they do? (in opponent's shooting phase)

Doesnt the DLord need to have a Veil of Darkness so that he can deepstrike with the deathmarks (or FO for that matter)?

If so then what ranged weapon were you considering taking on him; staff of light, solar staff? If you were thinking about something from the ranged weapons list, the DLord cant take one.

D Lords have jet packs. So they have deep strike.

Another thread cleared up whether they could all Deepstike via Ethereal Interception (yes), but still need answer on whether D/Lord can fire any ranged weapons he might have (eg. the super Flamer) when the D.Marks fire theirs in the opponent's shooting phase.

If so, this is probably the best anti-Alpha strike unit we can manage, perfect for protecting AV13 lists from Melta drop pods.
(and still pretty good at surprising MCs)

I was gonna be using him with a Triarch Stalkers and put him with a squad of Tesla Immortals. I feel like that would be fun.