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Hi I am a new member to Dakka Dakka!

I am struggling in my area on playing Orks in at local tournaments and I am always losing! I know the point is to have fun but its not when you always lose. I am open to any idea's except I only want to use the Ork Codex. My general is the Imperium, Tyranids, Necrons, and Tau. Also as to further note that just the Ork Codex this means no Forge World either. I am also considering to purchase Army Builder is it worth it?

Thanks,
TheWarhammerGuy101
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Instead of army builder, just get the free version of Battlescribe. It is fantastic

I purchased it because a friend told me to and I didn't receive my CD key so I'm pissed

Yeah, use battle scribe. I have the paid version because I want to support them, but there is a free version as well and they still get money from it from adds so

What sort of armies have you used before? And what models do you have? Just so I don't suggest anything you don't have.

However, I would suggest that you take a big squad of 15 tank bustas in a battle wagon, a couple of size 20 slugga boyz with nob pk bp to run up the field and maybe another battle wagon with boyz and a warboss with da lucky stick, a couple of trucks with 3 meganobz, some MEK guns (kustom mega kannon) and a unit of grots to hold back field (and if you have the points, a big MEK with KFF on a bike with a unit of 5 or so bikes to go behind your vehicle wall.

ignore titan hes secretly a Tau fish player trying to confuse ork players!

 TheWarhammerGuy101 wrote:
Hi I am a new member to Dakka Dakka!

I am struggling in my area on playing Orks in at local tournaments and I am always losing! I know the point is to have fun but its not when you always lose. I am open to any idea's except I only want to use the Ork Codex. My general is the Imperium, Tyranids, Necrons, and Tau. Also as to further note that just the Ork Codex this means no Forge World either. I am also considering to purchase Army Builder is it worth it?

Thanks,
TheWarhammerGuy101
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I think first you should consider your own play style and how you want to play the orks. You can build a super fast army, horde army, and/or (my personal favorite) random army. Super fast would be your cult of speed like list. Horde army can take a while to build but when you out number the opponent 3:1 or 4:1 it makes it really hard for them to deal with you. The random army, I built a army with all the weapons that have random values. So either it could go very good or very bad for you.

Also, if you are playing in tournaments, you should look into some of the list that are posted up on here to see what others have played. I'm fairly new as well.

solid suggestions, also on the same subject of play style, remember that you need to play to your strengths, if you bring a ton of boyz then you better get them into combat, if you bring a butt load of lootas and heavy support then you might want to bubble wrap them and shoot your opponent to death. Mixing and matching works to a degree but you need a primary focus and then its ok to have a secondary. The guy who is running the LV tourny right now has gunwagonz but the primary detachment is still his huge 100man green tide.

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ignore titan hes secretly a Tau fish player trying to confuse ork players!

Oi! ga gitz not half as ard as MY ladz!

Have you tried bikers? Combined right, they can be pretty deadly, and if nothing else lotsa fun.

Much appreciated guys I can give you a list of the things I have: 1 Warboss, I Mega Armor Warboss, Wierdboy, Big Mek, Painboy, 180 boys, 15 tankbustas, 25 lootas, 15 burnas, 30 Nobz, 3 trukks, 3 Battlewagons, 9 killa Kans, 1 Deff Dread, 1 Gorkanuaght, 10 bikes, 15 deffkoptas, 20 kommandos, 30 Gretchin, 3 traktor Gunz, 1 dakka jet, a stompa, and of course ghazzy! With the stuff I just listed any ideas thanks so much!

Hey man. At least put some effort into a list, and let us critique. We're more editors than writers, if you catch my drift.

HOLY CRAP didn't you say you were new to orks? how the hell did you get that big arse list that quickly?

Green Tide + Stompa + Big Mek w/ fixer and KFF + 2 units of grots.

Done.

Lol. Thanks kinda true. Especially if you put lootas with max meks in there in the stompa.


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AWESOME!!! That post brought me over 100. Upgrade to status.

If you just want to use the plain ork codex then I think you are pretty much shoe horned into a 90 shoota boyz setup. You might upgrade one squad to 4+ Armor and suppliment with painboy and use them as your warlord delivery.

You then fill your list with supporting elements. With your inventory I think you could really establish a good threat with 3 squads of Deff copta with rokkitz and then Lootas for supoort

Okay guys I did come off kind of dumb but I have been listening to all and I have come up with this hope you guys like it

Ork Horde Detachment:

HQ:
Grukk Face Rippa 130

Big Mek 35
Kustom Force Field 50
Killsaw 30
Eavy Armor 4
Da Dead Shiny Shoota 5
124

Wierdboy 45
LvL 2 Psyker 25
70

Elites

Tankbustas (x3)
Trukk
Rokkit Launcha
Reinforced Ram
100

Troops

Ork Boyz 20(x2)
Nob,PK,BS
Big Shoota 5(x2)
shootas

Ork Boyz 18(x1)
Nob,PK,BS
Big Shoota 5(x1)
shootas

Heavy Support

Battlewagon (x3)
Renforced Ram
115

Fast Attack

Deffkoptas 120 (x4)
Twin-Linked Rokkit Launchas

DakkaJet 110
Extra TLBS 20
130

Allied

Painboy 50

Gretchin 35

Traktor Gunz (x3)

Alright! Now we're on to something!
Grukk: why him? For the same cost you can get MA Warboss w/DLS. It's cool if you want him, just curious why he was your first choice.
Big mek: it strikes me that for a few points more, he too could be toting MA. Mobility? Also, remember the KFF only protects one vehicle if he's mounted now. No big radius vehicle stuff.

Busta missile, very nice. Nothing wrong there, though some might say add a nob w/bp, but it's not necessary. They mostly won't live long enough to use it, with only 5 bodies.

Battlewagon boys. Why the big shootas? Shooting isn't what you want those blobs to do. Save those points, buy guns on your BWs. Otherwise, a weapon destroyed result turns into "cry some more".

Dakka Jet. Meh. If you must have a flier, go for the blitza bomma. Armorbane blasts? Preeze. Dakka jets got kinda nerfed and you already brought tractors with you.

Hmmm. Grots aren't my fave, but using them as backfield scoring isn't a bad idea.

One thing: scratch up some points, add Mek's to those battlewagon blobs. It'll help keep them rolling, and you can use them to eat challenges, letting your bosses and your nobs run wild and free.

Tankbustas must be taken in squads of 5 or more

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Tankbustas must be taken in squads of 5 or more

They are. He was noting that it's 3 squads of them, bare bones. Yeah, i thought that too

Okay here is my revised list:

HQ:

Grukk Face Rippa 130

Mek 15
Rokkit Launcha 5
20

Big Mek 35
Kustom Force Field 50
Killsaw 30
Eavy Armor 4
Da Dead Shiny Shoota 5
124

Mek 15
Rokkit Launcha 5
20

Wierdboy 45
LvL 2 Psyker 25
70

Mek 15
Rokkit Launcha 5
20

Elites

Tankbustas 65(x5)(x3)
Trukk 30
Reinforced Ram5
100

Troops

Ork Boyz 108(x18)(x1)
Shootas 18
Nob,PK,BS 40
166

Ork Boyz 114(x19)(x1)
Shootas 19
Nob,PK,BS 40
173

Ork Boyz 120(x20)(x1)
Shootas 20
Nob,PK,BS 40
180

Fast Attack

Deffkoptas 150(x5)
Twin Linked Rokkit Launchas (x5)

Heavy Support
BattleWagons 110(x3)
Big Shootas 10(x2)
Rokkit Launcha 5(x1)
Reinforced Ram 5
130

Allied Formation

HQ:

Painboy 50

Mek 15

Troops

Gretchin 35

Heavy Support

Traktor Gunz (x3)

If you're doing tankbustas in 5 man squads I suggest having 3 bomb squiggs each to make sure you down whatever it is immediately. Otherwise you're hoping for 1-2 hull points at best power squad per turn. When you could have 3 from each first turn and 1-2 each additional turn they stick around.

Allied Detachment requires army different from yours. You can't take Orks with Orks as allies.

He could shuffle the HQ and troops and split it into 2 CAD's though.

True that I will change that into two separate CAD's