Is there a limit on stress tokens?

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**EmpNortonII**

Say I have a Decimator and I'm facing an enemy ship at range 2. I have three Tacticians on board. I shoot, the enemy takes 3 stress, by the FAQ, right?

So, next turn he green maneuvers, I shoot again, another 3 for 5 stress. Is this how it works? Is there no upper limit on stress? Is it possible to stress-lock a ship, and if so, why is this not a strategy used with, say, a cheap shuttle in competitive play?

**Sazzlefrats**

EmpNortonII wrote:
Say I have a Decimator and I'm facing an enemy ship at range 2. I have three Navigators on board. I shoot, the enemy takes 3 stress, by the FAQ, right?

So, next turn he green maneuvers, I shoot again, another 3 for 5 stress. Is this how it works? Is there no upper limit on stress? Is it possible to stress-lock a ship, and if so, why is this not a strategy used with, say, a cheap shuttle in competitive play?

There's no limit on the amount of stress you can acquire. I played a game a while back. My Han Solo Falcon was chasing down a Decimator with Tactician and that rebel card that gives out stress. By the time I finally blew up the Decimator I had 6 stress tokens on me. Stress isn't damage, doing damage is how you win. So rerolling 3 or 4 damage dice is much stronger. This changes in Epic, I had a rebel transport loaded up as a stress ship and slicer tools.. killed a phantom very very fast that way.. then I lost my rebel transport very quickly as my opponent was determined to keep me from doing that again.

**EmpNortonII**

Sazzlefrats wrote:
EmpNortonII wrote:
Say I have a Decimator and I'm facing an enemy ship at range 2. I have three Navigators on board. I shoot, the enemy takes 3 stress, by the FAQ, right?

So, next turn he green maneuvers, I shoot again, another 3 for 5 stress. Is this how it works? Is there no upper limit on stress? Is it possible to stress-lock a ship, and if so, why is this not a strategy used with, say, a cheap shuttle in competitive play?

There's no limit on the amount of stress you can acquire. I played a game a while back. My Han Solo Falcon was chasing down a Decimator with Tactician and that rebel card that gives out stress. By the time I finally blew up the Decimator I had 6 stress tokens on me. Stress isn't damage, doing damage is how you win. So rerolling 3 or 4 damage dice is much stronger. This changes in Epic, I had a rebel transport loaded up as a stress ship and slicer tools.. killed a phantom very very fast that way.. then I lost my rebel transport very quickly as my opponent was determined to keep me from doing that again.

Well... my thought was that a shuttle with 2 Tacticians is only 25 points. 3 attack dice, 10 hp, and some good board control for 1/4th of your points? The only limit is the number of Phantoms you want to buy.

If you had the cards, that's 40 hull and 12 dice on the table that can cripple anything that relies on actions to be effective. Doubly good against things that have trouble with 90 degree turns like B Wings.

Damage is a lot easier to put on without evade or focus tokens on your target... and you can still TL before you shoot with tacs.

**House Griffith**

I take it that you mean Tacticians, not Navigators.

I don't have the FAQ in front of me, but the question would be if the effects of Tactician are cumulative, meaning, does each one trigger during an attack to generate the multiple stress?

Edit: I think the answer is yes, you can indeed do this. As far as your first question, the stress stays; so in your example, your opponent can only remove 1x stress per turn when executing a green maneuver.

**Peregrine**

House Griffith wrote:
I don't have the FAQ in front of me, but the question would be if the effects of Tactician are cumulative, meaning, does each one trigger during an attack to generate the multiple stress?

Yes they are cumulative. Each upgrade triggers separately, there is no rule that only one copy of a card can apply at a time. If you have three copies of a card that says "when you attack" then each time you attack you will trigger all three of them and resolve them separately. The only time you wouldn't apply all three effects would be if you run out of opportunities to do so (for example, three mercenary co-pilots on a ship that only rolls two {hit} results to turn into {crit} results). But that's not the case with tacticians, you can pile up as many stress tokens as you want.

**Weycon**

just watch out for Kyle Katarn as crew for free focus when a stress is removed.

and the FCS for a free target lock after an attack.

some of the named B-wings also uses stress, but not 5 at once.

**General Seric**

Weycon wrote:
just watch out for Kyle Katarn as crew for free focus when a stress is removed.

and the FCS for a free target lock after an attack.

some of the named B-wings also uses stress, but not 5 at once.

Keyan Farlander can discard stress to use it as focus on attacks (just fought him, very annoying ability), and another of the B-Wings can re-roll 1 die if they are stressed.

**Azeroth**

I've got a double Decimator list that I'm looking at using. It has a Tactician on each Decimator. Rebel Captive on one of them along with a gunner each. I didn't realize that you can double them up on 1 ship.

Would you put one on each ship or 2 on one ship?

**streamdragon**

Stacking stress (on your own ship) was actually mentioned in one of the S&V write ups for Drea Renthal:

On the other hand, the expansion’s second unique Y-wing pilot, Drea Renthal , is less likely to need the target lock granted by the R4 Agromech since she can simply receive a stress token to acquire a new target lock whenever she spends one. This means she’s far more likely to equip R4-B11 as she guns her ship straight at the enemy fleet, firing torpedoes with abandon. Alternatively, if her Y-wing has the BTL-A4 Y-wing Title , she can attack twice in the same round, once with her primary weapon and once with a turret. Furthermore, if she wishes, she can spend target locks to modify every die roll in the whole sequence. If Drea Renthal spends her target lock to modify her first attack roll, she can receive a stress token to acquire a new target lock, which she can then spend to modify the defender’s results. After that, she can receive a second stress token to acquire a new target lock on the same opponent or a new one, and she can then attack that opponent with a turret weapon, such as the Autoblaster Turret , modify the attack dice, take another stress token, acquire another target lock, and modify her target’s defense dice. However, since she’ll then be buried in stress tokens and her BTL-A4 Y-wing Title will prevent her from firing against opponents outside of her primary firing arc, Drea Renthal may wish to consider equipping a Bomb Loadout , perhaps carrying a Proton Bomb to discourage any would-be pursuers from trying to outflank her in order to claim free shots at Range “1.”

I've thought about running her with an Unhinged Astromech instead of the R4 droid. Sure, she can't use a target lock to modify defense dice, but it makes all her 3-speed maneuvers into green maneuvers, making for a fairly mobile Y-Wing!

Edit: Question on that, actually. The BTL-A4 Title card lets you make an attack with a turret weapon after making a primary weapon attack. Do you have to spend any tokens normally associated with that turret? I.e., would a Blast Turret still require that you spend a focus token?

**Peregrine**

streamdragon wrote:
Edit: Question on that, actually. The BTL-A4 Title card lets you make an attack with a turret weapon after making a primary weapon attack. Do you have to spend any tokens normally associated with that turret? I.e., would a Blast Turret still require that you spend a focus token?

The turret weapon attack is made exactly like it usually is. You'll spend the same tokens, choose a target independently, roll the same dice, etc. The only thing the title card does is allow you to do it after a primary weapon attack instead of as your only attack for the turn.

**streamdragon**

Peregrine wrote:
The turret weapon attack is made exactly like it usually is. You'll spend the same tokens, choose a target independently, roll the same dice, etc. The only thing the title card does is allow you to do it after a primary weapon attack instead of as your only attack for the turn.

That's what I figured. Guess I stick with Ion Turrets instead of Blaster Turrets.

**bocatt**

Here's a stress machine for you:
Nera Dantels
Deadeye
Flechette Torpedoes
Accuracy Corrector
Munitions Failsafe.

**EmpNortonII**

Azeroth wrote:
I've got a double Decimator list that I'm looking at using. It has a Tactician on each Decimator. Rebel Captive on one of them along with a gunner each. I didn't realize that you can double them up on 1 ship.

Would you put one on each ship or 2 on one ship?

Wednesday I'm going to try running two Omicron shuttles with 2 Tacticians each to see how they work. Maybe run a Decimator with them.

If they go over well, I'll try four. I figure with that many on the table, arc-dodging is going to be difficult.

**Peregrine**

bocatt wrote:
Here's a stress machine for you:
Nera Dantels
Deadeye
Flechette Torpedoes
Accuracy Corrector
Munitions Failsafe.

Way too many points for a zero-damage ship. Here's a better stress machine:

Gold squadron pilot (or better, if you have spare points and nothing better to spend them on)
Ion cannon turret
R3-A2
BTL-A4

Two stress per turn at range 1-2, potentially split between two separate targets, and a decent chance of an ion token and/or damage. And it's only 25 points, which makes it a really good deal.

**EmpNortonII**

Peregrine wrote:
bocatt wrote:
Here's a stress machine for you:
Nera Dantels
Deadeye
Flechette Torpedoes
Accuracy Corrector
Munitions Failsafe.

Way too many points for a zero-damage ship. Here's a better stress machine:

Gold squadron pilot (or better, if you have spare points and nothing better to spend them on)
Ion cannon turret
R3-A2
BTL-A4

Two stress per turn at range 1-2, potentially split between two separate targets, and a decent chance of an ion token and/or damage. And it's only 25 points, which makes it a really good deal.

That's an interesting idea, but the unique droid means you're only able to field one.

For the points, it looks like a beautiful tool for dealing with large ships.

**bocatt**

Take both, add two Rookie Pilots or three Bandits and call it a day