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**PsychoticStorm**

The "should have" part was not done, because frankly iy was not evident on the previous updates.

Now what?

**nkelsch**

I haven't found it confusing at all, but I also have played MYTH and understand what each component does.

They made the add-ons and pledge points directly meet the need for people in various situations to get 20/4 minions.

There are a small group of vocal minority who are trying to weasel free stuff by feigning outrage and causing issues where there is none.

We have the people who don't want to pay for the KS exclusive Heroes but want the rules for free so they can proxy them. We have the people who want free elemetal/rat bosses and free tile add-ons by complaining that the modules are not 'all in' even though virtually all of the backers already have those two models or will get them via the JM pledges. We have people actively trying to lie about owning KS1 content in order to get free decks.

All of these things keep complicating stuff and have people floating false expectations to try to make issues where there are none.

I have been contacted 3 times by randos on Boardgamegeek trying to get help to steal content from KS1 via finding someone who has the content who will answer their questions for them opposed to just buying the content they don't own.

**PsychoticStorm**

I found the following things confusing, first it was not obvious at least to me I had to contacted them, second I am under the impression add ons have changed and I have to review again the pledge manager, third I thought we would be contacted for this not the other way around.

**ubik2000**

Don't sweat it, I'm sure you can still upgrade your Item/Quest card packs at this point - send an email to Nikki and she'll send you instructions. I did it the other day - you just need to give her some facts from the cards. Once you reply and she updates your account, the relevant "2.0" packs appear on your pledge manager. .

I sent her another email yesterday about this next wave, and haven't heard back yet, so if it takes a few days, don't panic; she's probably got a lot to go through now.

It's definitely confusing though - I didn't realize the 2.0 Monster cards were also a free upgrade (and frankly that is STILL not at all clear), I had already added them to my pledge. I removed them, but now I have $2 worth of credit.

Megacon games communicate like English is not their first language. Or worse; I've had clearer communications in worse English.

**nkelsch**

PsychoticStorm wrote:
I found the following things confusing, first it was not obvious at least to me I had to contacted them, second I am under the impression add ons have changed and I have to review again the pledge manager, third I thought we would be contacted for this not the other way around.

Are you not getting KS updates? It has been pretty clear IMHO.

For the most part, the only changes to the 'add-ons' have been the addition of the 2.0 content for expanded KS1 stuff and a few typos.

*Everyone gets Core 2.0 rules.
*Quest 1/2 and Item 1 cards Require an email to answer questions to get for free. (Update 82#)
*Tricker/Spriggan/Skald cards Require an email to answer questions to get for free. (Update 85#)
*KS1 monsters and Agents cards Require an email to answer questions to get for free. (Update 85#)
*Torchbearer/Spriggian Plastic replacements require an email to get replacement. (Not ready but coming soon Update 82#)

That is the entirety of 2.0 re-printed content and how to obtain them. You can either buy them outright via the added items in the PM or follow the process to get them for free if you prove ownership.

**PsychoticStorm**

I am I didn't notice them and many seem to also not have seen them too.

**yamato**

Final updates to the Pledge Manager happening tonight (it only inlcudes French translated items,.. So finish up your pledge).

There will be an update tomorrow detailing those last changes and the achievement of the Cyclops Ultra Boss, and hopefully some fun new goals.

PM is still scheduled to close on October 12th! Make sure you lock down your pledge by then!

Also; if you backed in the first campaign also, don't forget to e-mail Nikki at journeyman@mercsminis.com so that you can get all of your free 2.0 versions of cards for the stretch goals as well as purchased add ons like the Spriggan and Skald. They will also be replacing your metal Spriggan and Torchbearer for free as part of that process.

**PsychoticStorm**

If she ever replies....

**Alpharius**

I haven't had any problems in the regard!

Are you sure you're sending your message to the correct e-mail address?

"journeyman@mercsminis.com"

**PsychoticStorm**

Yes, I resend and finally got a reply that I am on the list and will be contacted when my queue number comes.

I guess I was expecting a "we got your email, please wait while we contact you" response from the first email.

**yamato**

PsychoticStorm wrote:
Yes, I resend and finally got a reply that I am on the list and will be contacted when my queue number comes.

I guess I was expecting a "we got your email, please wait while we contact you" response from the first email.

She is working the e-mails from oldest to newest, so if you send another e-mail it puts you back at the end of the line,... just be patient.

Also: the update is up with lots of new art for the swashbuckler cards

And some new sculpt pics.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1700755582/myth-journeyman/posts/1361403

The Cyclops Ultra Boss is in!

**Myrthe**

I was really looking forward to Myth but I've decided to give up on it. I went in on the first Kickstarter and did pledge on the second to get the 2.0 updates but, during the wait, I've realized I have WAY too many games and not enough time to keep one I'm only marginally interested in at this point.

That being said, if anyone is interested in a never-played copy of the first Kickstarter game (along with the upcoming revised rules and cards) plus a lot of the KS add-ons and stretch goals, PM me to see what we can work out.

Mods, sorry if this breaks any forum rules. Just saw the recent comments here and thought it was a good place to add a quick note.

**PsychoticStorm**

yamato wrote:

She is working the e-mails from oldest to newest, so if you send another e-mail it puts you back at the end of the line,... just be patient.

As I said I was expecting a "we got your email, now please be patient" reply.

**JoshInJapan**

PsychoticStorm wrote:
yamato wrote:

She is working the e-mails from oldest to newest, so if you send another e-mail it puts you back at the end of the line,... just be patient.

As I said I was expecting a "we got your email, now please be patient" reply.

I sent a second e-mail regarding the v2.0 monsters, and got a reply saying that I'm already sorted out.

**yamato**

FYI - you can view your pledge in the PM without unlocking to see if you free item upgrades have been added. They will be listed in the upper area of your pledge (just after your main pledge rewards) and they will also have the little gift icon in the price column.

That way you can verify if they have been added to your pledge.

Also: I think that they just set an "out of office" type of response up,.... so while you may have gotten one of these "thanks for your e-mail" types of responses when you sent your initial request about the quest and item decks, you wont get another one as you send more e-mails.

**Alpharius**

Did you happen to find the new Cyclops boss in the Pledge Manager?

I couldn't locate it!

**DaveC**

The Cyclops boss is added to Hero and Minion pledges it's not something you buy so no need to have it in the PM.

**Bioptic**

My understanding was that, like the Ice Dragon, this Epic-level boss has been added to all pledges of Minion and up! Also like the Ice dragon, you can't buy extras in the pledge manager.

The update also confirms that all pledges of minion and up are getting the upgraded plastic Torch Bearer model (irrespective of backing the first Kickstarter or not). If you're getting the v2.0 cards, this also includes the rules to use the Torchbearer! Nice.

In less good news for new-joiners, they've said that the only way to get the "novice" Slaughterfield content is to buy it through their webstore. So everyone's at Novice level of higher is getting Journeyman Slaughterfield content, if you backed the first Kickstarter you got the Slaughterfield map tiles, and you'll only have the Novice Slaughterfield cards if you added them on in the first Kickstarter, or buy them through the Webstore now. Confusing approach.

**JoshInJapan**

I logged into the PM to change my address, looked at all the add-ons, and came this close to clicking some. Then I remembered all the unpainted stuff I have from the first KS, and them remembered that I've only played once to date. It was pretty easy to resist after that.

**Alpharius**

yamato wrote:
I'm in agreement with HT:

You'll need:

- All-In Modules add on
- Any JM expansions for Alternate heroes that you already have (Trickster, Spriggan, Skald, Hunter)
- Any Tile sets that you don't already have - Tile Supplement #2 is the only new one
- Any Quest and Item expansions that you don't already have - QE3, IE2, and IE3 are new
- The Kraken (no explanation needed - that thing is bad ass!)
- Ia (sycline boss) if you did not add him last time
- Sycline add on is useful if you only had a single captain pledge ( adds 10/2 minions/captains to get you to 20/4)
- Agents (if you did not add them last time)

Everything else is fluff (even the sculpted lairs - which I love, but I wish were even bigger). The tiles ARE game play items in that some offer unique situations, blocking terrain, etc, and it has been confirmed that they are fair game to be used in the modules (many of which are being farmed out to other game writers).

Help please!

I'm about to lock in my pledge and it looks as if I've already got included "Trickster 2.0", "Skald 2.0" and "Spriggan 2.0" in my order.

Are these cards only, and I'll have to pay to add on miniatures, or is it all already included?

Also, I got 'everything' in the first Kickstarter, but without having to go through everything, did I already get "Marcus the Ready" or do I need to get him now?

Thanks!

**yamato**

If those are on your pledge with the little gift icon, it means that your cards for the novice versions of those are included for free (you would have had to communicate with Nikki to have this done,... typically showing info about your 1st Myth pledge,... but she may have been able to just access this via your e-mail address).

The only word on minis,... is that you should get a plastic version of the Spriggan (now based on how fulfillment works,... you might just get new minis for all of them,..... but the Spriggan is the only one that they said that they would be replacing).

Now,... If you want the Journeyman minitures and 10 Journeyman cards for any of these,... you will have to add those "XXXXXX Journeyman 2.0" versions separately (those only include the new minis)

BTW - every pledge will also receive a plastic Torchbearer minis as well (though not indicated anywhere in the PM)

**Alpharius**

Thanks yamato!

(And I know it is a ways off, but I'm looking forward to the 'next level' in the MYTH game series to - Master? The art previews they've shown for that 'level' of hero look great!)

**yamato**

Yeah,... I think at this point it's almost assured that Myth: Master will happen. I think that the joint project (The Banner Saga: Warbands) will likely start next year (their MO has been to run things in the Spring Break time period).

They Said Master will just be one advancement path for each hero (so not another split like in Journeyman). E.G. - Acolyte split to Medicant and Necromancer. Now Medicant -> Saint and Necromancer -> Liche (or something along those lines). I would imagine that the Myth: Master KS would be slated for Spring of 2017.

,..... and if that goes well,.... Myth: Legend

**highlord tamburlaine**

Wasn't Banner Saga originally going to be this fall?

Maybe my memory is fuzzy.

Is the PM still open? I don't think I ever added a Kraken or a Journeyman Spriggan.

**yamato**

yeah, they said they wont start Banner Saga until Recon is delivered, and they had to redo the minis on the game because the company in china used the wrong plastic.

according to the MegaCon gang; the mfr admitted their mistake and redid all the minis. At this point the base games should deliver before the end of the year, but that the stretch goals are about a month or so behind.

So I guess they could launch the Banner Saga at any time,.... but it was clear that they were ready to pull that trigger before the delay on Recon. I think it's a smart move to wait,..... if they wait until the Spring,... who knows?

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highlord tamburlaine wrote:

Is the PM still open? I don't think I ever added a Kraken or a Journeyman Spriggan.

as of this moment: the JM pledge manager is still open and active,.... though I'd expect it to close this week.

**Alpharius**

It was supposed to close on the 15th, I think?

But that didn't happen, obviously!

And that's good, as I didn't lock mine down until yesterday!

I hope they just roll MASTER and LEGEND into one more big Kickstarter - I don't want to wait until 2019/2020 for the LEGEND stuff!

**highlord tamburlaine**

I think they did mention rolling the final stuff into one campaign at some future point, rather than dole it out across even more kickstarter campaigns.

**Ahtman**

Does this mean those of us that spaced on the second Myth KS can get into it still? Or is this just for the cool kids?

**yamato**

Ahtman wrote:
Does this mean those of us that spaced on the second Myth KS can get into it still? Or is this just for the cool kids?

you have to see if you can piggy-back with someone (current backers can add extra pledges) or find someone trying to get out of their pledge,... There is a thread on BGG of people willing to help others on adding stuff,... but that really only makes sense if they are local to you) What part of the US are you in?

I've offered to help any in the general SE Texas area (I'm in Houston).

Also here is an update from Nikki from today:

Upgrade Update!
The Pledge Manager is still open, obvi. smile emoticon This is due to the guys working round the clock making sure they get the best shipping prices in for everyone. Once they've gotten them to where they want them, the PM will be updated with shipping costs.
In Regards to the paypal@mercsminis.com address:
This is solely reserved for those of you that need to pay the balance of your pledge in order to complete your order. At this point, they've all been processed, or responded to. Please do not forget to send the email back confirming you've made the payment.
In Regards to the Journeyman@mercsminis.com address. I am currently processing emails from October 7th forward. If you sent an email prior to that, please check your Spam folder. If you still find nothing, please let me know, here, email, KS, or any other avenue you'd like. I check them all, and will absolutely look into it.
On this same topic. Payments sent via PayPal for the KS Heroes Upgrades, are process along with the rest of the upgrade request. If you haven't received a response back, I am currently running at most, a 2 week delay time on those. So please continue being patience with me. If you've gotten the email with the instructions on how to do it, please do not forget to send me an email back with photographs and confirmation of payment. A lot of you, are curious why this is happening. I'll try my best to explain smile emoticon This process is for people who bought the product or an entire pledge from someone other that MegaCon. The fee we are charging is solely what it costs us to produce these items. We understanding your frustration about having to pay for things you've already paid for, but please bare in mind the payments were not us, so we have to make sure can get everything produced, distributed, and accurate. Apologies for any hard feelings about this, you've all been greatly patience and understanding with me during this process.
As everyday, we forge ahead to make sure the guys can produce yet another amazing game for you, we cannot thank you enough for your enthusiasm, patience and overwhelming support. Without that, this process would be far more difficult. The free upgrades, the discounted ugprades, were a small sign of how much we at MegaCon appreciate you all, and look forward to having you around for the next years as Myth just continues to grow, and gain momentum.
IN REGARDS TO RECON:
I've been asked a few times. Brian's last update was clear and transparent at where we are with that. Believe me, he will update as soon as he information of any kind to share with you all. Nobody here wants anybody to feel as though they are being kept in the dark. Once we have it, you'll have. That's the best thought to keep on, as we travel through the next months. Thanks again to all of our backers/customers. You are the backbone of our projects!
Nikki Guiney
Operations Manager
mercs@mercsminis.com

Looks like them may be collecting shipping now instead of waiting until later?

I'm not so sure on that,.... but it would seem that shipping costs are related to the PM still being open.

**Ahtman**

I don't know what BGG is just from the acronym.