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Made in ca
Crazed Spirit of the Defiler






Good day all,
I've been playing my Orks lately at my LGS and I seem to strugle against MEQ army. I have a 1500 list I want to try this saturday, but I have a last points dilemna kinda thing.

Spoiler:

---HQ---
+Warboss (Warbike, Da Finkin' Kap, Power Klaw) 120pts
+Painboy (Warbike, Bosspole) 80pts
+Big Mek (Warbike, Kustom Force Field) 110pts

---TROOP---
+11x Boyz ('Eavy Armour, Nob, Power Klaw, Bosspole) 150pts
+11x Boyz ('Eavy Armour, Nob, Power Klaw, Bosspole) 150pts
+10x Grethin 35pts

---FAST ATTACK---
+6x Warbikers (Nob, Power Klaw) 143pts

---ELITE---
+3x Meganobz (Kombi-Scorcha) 125pts
+3x Meganobz (Kombi-Scorcha) 125pts
+12x Tankbustas (Nob, Bosspole) 171pts

---HEAVY SUPPORT---
+Battlewagon (Killkannon, Rokkit Launcha, Ram) 150pts

---TRANSPORT---
+Trukk (Rokkit Launcha, Ram) 35pts
+Trukk (Rokkit Launcha, Ram) 35pts
+Trukk (Rokkit Launcha, Ram) 35pts
+Trukk (Rokkit Launcha, Ram) 35pts

Total: 1499pts


Boyz and Meganobz in Trukk, Tankbustas in Wagon. Keep the bike behind for some 5++ on thos vehicule (and a big punch when they charge). I am now debating on the 'Eavy Armour. Should I drop 'Eavy Armour + 1Boyz per squad + Kombi-Scorcha to make place for a Dakka-jet? Or, should I drop a bit more to make place for a Blitza-Bommers (maybe drop the PK in the Warbiker squad)?

Thank you for your comments!!!

Ahriman + 1 TSons squad: Painting in progress. Will gift them to my bro at Xmas!
2000+ Tau: Painting in progress. http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/images-78163-46237_Tau%20Battelforce.html 
   
Made in us
Bonkers Buggy Driver with Rockets





Indianapolis, IN

First, drop the gretchin. Its a weak point in your army and they have no transport. Second, if you are allowed to use FW, you should switch out your warboss on a bike for Zhadsnark. Give the da lucky stick to the big mek on a bike. Zhadsnark makes the bikes unit now troops and da lucky stick gives them plus 1 to their WS. Zhadsnark, also, gives you scout as long as he is in the bike squad and he has an int 4 power klaw.

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Armies:
The Iron Waagh: 10,000+ 8th Edition Tournament Record: 4-7-1
Salamanders: 5,000 8th Edition Tournament Record: 4-2
Ultramarines: 4,000
Armored Battle Company (DKoK): 4000
Elysians: 500
Khorne Daemons: 2500
 
   
Made in ca
Crazed Spirit of the Defiler






Using Zhadsnark mean having a detachment from another codex right? And I have the grethin to stay in the Ork Org chart (need 3 troop to have 3HQ)

edit: Nvm, I just checked online. since he's intended for the vanilla codex: Orks, I could bring him, and ditch the grethin since now the bike would be troop (hence having 3 troop). Nice call man, I'm gonna tweak the points a bit then!

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Ahriman + 1 TSons squad: Painting in progress. Will gift them to my bro at Xmas!
2000+ Tau: Painting in progress. http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/images-78163-46237_Tau%20Battelforce.html 
   
Made in us
Bonkers Buggy Driver with Rockets





Indianapolis, IN

 PandaHero wrote:
Using Zhadsnark mean having a detachment from another codex right? And I have the grethin to stay in the Ork Org chart (need 3 troop to have 3HQ)

edit: Nvm, I just checked online. since he's intended for the vanilla codex: Orks, I could bring him, and ditch the grethin since now the bike would be troop (hence having 3 troop). Nice call man, I'm gonna tweak the points a bit then!


You are welcome. Also FW has a PDF in their download section that his complete rules. Its the dread mob update. He is the last page. Also Zhadsnark is a pretty big size model. Mine dwarfs my bikers. I would ask you opponent if they are okay with you proxy him unless you have the actual model.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/03/09 19:17:33


Armies:
The Iron Waagh: 10,000+ 8th Edition Tournament Record: 4-7-1
Salamanders: 5,000 8th Edition Tournament Record: 4-2
Ultramarines: 4,000
Armored Battle Company (DKoK): 4000
Elysians: 500
Khorne Daemons: 2500
 
   
Made in us
Waaagh! Warbiker




Alaska

Orks anmd MSU are not particulary good friends, especially when it comes to your basic unit size. When I try to run a speed freeks list, I usually opt for battlewagons with 20 man blobs + painboys when I can. Add a mek to keep the wheels rolling and eat challenges so the nob can swing freely.

MANZ dont really need the kombi-skorcha, as they cant fire overwatch, and they want to get fighting ASAP. Not that its a bad inclusion, just mayber not the most cost effective. Same with the boys, drop that armor. You need bodies.

If you need mopre points, you could swap your big mek out of the bikers for a few more bodies, and use the bikers to provide cover for the wagons. But KFFs are sweet too, so its 50/50 on that one.
   
Made in ca
Crazed Spirit of the Defiler






Will do! I'm sure they don't mind proxy and FW rule. Will ask before the game just in case tho. The new list is:

Spoiler:
---HQ---
+Zhadsnark 'Da Rippa' 150pts
+Painboy (Warbike, Bosspole) 80pts
+Big Mek (Warbike, Kustom Force Field, Da Lucky Stikk) 135pts

---TROOP---
+10x Boyz ('Eavy Armour, Nob, Power Klaw, Bosspole) 150pts
+10x Boyz ('Eavy Armour, Nob, Power Klaw, Bosspole) 150pts
+6x Warbikers (Nob, Power Klaw) 143pts

---ELITE---
+3x Meganobz (Kombi-Scorcha) 125pts
+3x Meganobz (Kombi-Scorcha) 125pts
+12x Tankbustas (Nob, Bosspole) 171pts

---HEAVY SUPPORT---
+Battlewagon (Killkannon, Rokkit Launcha, Ram) 150pts

---TRANSPORT---
+Trukk (Rokkit Launcha, Ram) 35pts
+Trukk (Rokkit Launcha, Ram) 35pts
+Trukk (Rokkit Launcha, Ram) 35pts
+Trukk (Rokkit Launcha, Ram) 35pts

Total: 1499pts



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I will have to look into BW with boyz instead of Trukk. Thing is, I only have 2 BW model, so if I run 2 squad of 20 in 2 BW, I will have to put the Tankbusta in a Trukk. And I would also lose the Killkannon, which is lifesaving without Big Mek Gun support imo. I agree that 20 without eave armor, in a BW is better, but I feel like it would remove my big gunz.

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Ahriman + 1 TSons squad: Painting in progress. Will gift them to my bro at Xmas!
2000+ Tau: Painting in progress. http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/images-78163-46237_Tau%20Battelforce.html 
   
Made in us
Waaagh! Warbiker




Alaska

Then split the difference and get a looted wagon. Its not fast, but it still gets the killkannon, AV 11/11/10, and you can keep it from having to move flat out by juggling squads in and out of it.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Also, dont forget you're playing orks. If you make it look like a battle wagon, it IS a battlewagon. Dont model for advantage, and zero fraks will be given.

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Made in us
Nasty Nob





United States

I've never thought of 6 Warbikes as a proppa HQ delivery system. I feel that squad should be ten or larger.

Usually if you take one battlewagon everyone immediately suggests two battlewagon.

I am the kinda ork that takes his own washing machine apart, puts new bearings in it, then puts it back together, and it still works. 
   
 
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