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So as my understanding of Necron lore went, in 5th and earlier editions of before we had the remaining c'tan sharded, there was four that were known to still be alive; The Nightbringer, Deciver, Void Dragon, and the Outsider. These four were the only remaining C'tan by the end of the War in the Heavens when they went to sleep with all their necron toys, and as such in our new editions of the story, these four were shattered into thousands of pieces by the necrons. That being said, is there anyway to know if more C'tan were shattered in the new fluff? Or are all these shards the Necrons have locked away made solely from these four C'tan, who used to be the only ones to exist by the end of the war originally?

No. There were only the four, and they were all broken. All other C'tan were either eaten by the surviving C'tan, possibly destroyed in the WIH, or the one that was killed by the Necrons and cursed with them Flayer Virus.

until GW of course decides this needs to change for a future codex of course

Current Fluff, there are a lot more C'tan than 4. All C'tan have been sharded, or in the case of one, completely destroyed.

Off the top of my Head:

The Nightbringer
The Void Dragon
The Deceiver
The Outsider
The Shaper
The Burning One
The Endless Swarm
The Arisen
The Flayer (completly Destroyed)

Most of the info on these is the 5th edition codex, however there are some outside sources. Good example is a Shard of the Burning one was used during the Shield of Baal Campaign.

Indeed. There may still be thousands of C'tan, each with thousands of shards. And each shard can have a distinct personality and goal. Another aspect of the lore designed to give players more freedom to develop a C'tan as they wish.

 Sasori wrote:
Current Fluff, there are a lot more C'tan than 4. All C'tan have been sharded, or in the case of one, completely destroyed.

Off the top of my Head:

The Nightbringer
The Void Dragon
The Deceiver
The Outsider
The Shaper
The Burning One
The Endless Swarm
The Arisen
The Flayer (completly Destroyed)

Most of the info on these is the 5th edition codex, however there are some outside sources. Good example is a Shard of the Burning one was used during the Shield of Baal Campaign.

This is just a list of the known c'tan through events during the war in the heavens. Of course there used to be many, many more c'tan but at leastsome died either as casualties during the war, from eating each other, and from the ensalver plague (are the ensalvers still in new fluff?)
I was wondering if we know if more than those four survived, which I haven't seen any evicdence for


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Oops, I failed to notice your reference to sheild of baal, and that right there seems to prove more than those four are still out there.
Thank you for that piece of information

Actually, from the White Dwarf article that introduced them, the new C'tan have all been sharded and continue to exist as shards.

Do you think a C'tan shard knows that it isn't complete? Would a shard be able to reform itself if it recovered other shards of itself?

Unknown on the first. It may even vary by shard. As for the second, that's basically what transcendent C'tan are. Some Necron dynasties believe themselves strong enough (or crazy enough) to allow several shards to merge together to form a stronger C'tan shard that they believe they could still control.

jareddm wrote:
Unknown on the first. It may even vary by shard. As for the second, that's basically what transcendent C'tan are. Some Necron dynasties believe themselves strong enough (or crazy enough) to allow several shards to merge together to form a stronger C'tan shard that they believe they could still control.

Cool, I can imagine a shard of say, the Deceiver, traveling the Cosmo trying to reform himself or an enslaved shard mid battle having a lucid moment and turning on the Necron.

 Flame-Rage wrote:

 Sasori wrote:
Current Fluff, there are a lot more C'tan than 4. All C'tan have been sharded, or in the case of one, completely destroyed.

Off the top of my Head:

The Nightbringer
The Void Dragon
The Deceiver
The Outsider
The Shaper
The Burning One
The Endless Swarm
The Arisen
The Flayer (completly Destroyed)

Most of the info on these is the 5th edition codex, however there are some outside sources. Good example is a Shard of the Burning one was used during the Shield of Baal Campaign.

This is just a list of the known c'tan through events during the war in the heavens. Of course there used to be many, many more c'tan but at leastsome died either as casualties during the war, from eating each other, and from the ensalver plague (are the ensalvers still in new fluff?)
I was wondering if we know if more than those four survived, which I haven't seen any evicdence for


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Oops, I failed to notice your reference to sheild of baal, and that right there seems to prove more than those four are still out there.
Thank you for that piece of information

You should re-read the 5th edition codex. It is quite clear that the C'tan I named (Barring me forgetting, or canonical source I missed) are really the only ones to exist, and that they have all been sharded, except in the case of the Flayer which was completely destroyed. They didn't eat each other or anything like that in the new fluff. It's also made quite clear that the C'tan are a integral part of the Universe, and really couldn't fully be destroyed (Except for the Flayer for whatever reason), this is why they sharded them in the first place.

I think you are mixing up a lot of the newer fluff, with fluff from the 3rd edition which is outdated, and a good portion of it completely retconned.