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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/12 14:55:04
Subject: Question about allocating Template Wounds
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Ok, my buddies and I thought we knew how this worked but somehow, yesterday we managed to confuse ourselves and may need help re validating.
Situation:
2 identical Flamers / Templates are fired at a Squad of 5
The first 3 Models in that squad of 5 are covered by both Templates.
The other 2 Models in that squad of 5 are further back and cannot be reached by either Template.
Question:
We roll 6 Wounds, and 4 of those Wounds get allocated to, and kill, the first 3 Models.
Do the remaining 2 Wounds get allocated to the other 2 Models that were out of range?
We originally thought the answer was yes, since The Template section in Special Rules says nothing about checking for Range. But it does say Wounds are allocated normally, and the main Shooting section does talk about Wounds cannot be allocated to Models out of range.
Thanks for re validating. I know this is old stuff.
Edit - corrected my math in above post.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/12 14:57:25
Subject: Question about allocating Template Wounds
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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
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No, the last 2 are out of range so the wounds go away. Thats why you want to fire a Flamer first before using like Bolters because you can make it so your Flamer can't hit someone.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/12 15:13:45
Subject: Question about allocating Template Wounds
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Dakka Veteran
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What if:
There are 3 Models that are more toward the 'right-side' and 2 Models that are more toward the 'left-side'.
And, each template can only cover EITHER the right 3 or the left 2.
Can you have both templates cover the right 3 and allocate 6 wounds to all 5 models?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/12 15:33:40
Subject: Question about allocating Template Wounds
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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
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KiloFiX wrote:What if:
There are 3 Models that are more toward the 'right-side' and 2 Models that are more toward the 'left-side'.
And, each template can only cover EITHER the right 3 or the left 2.
Can you have both templates cover the right 3 and allocate 6 wounds to all 5 models?
I'm assuming you mean something like
---O-O-O-O--
-X-X-X-X-X
Sure. You can place the Templates however you want, so long as your Template is not covering the base of a Friendly model.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/12 17:36:44
Subject: Question about allocating Template Wounds
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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jreilly89 wrote:Sure. You can place the Templates however you want, so long as your Template is not covering the base of a Friendly model.
So long as your template is not covering the base of a friendly model and covers the base of as many enemy models as possible.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/12 18:05:47
Subject: Question about allocating Template Wounds
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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
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DJGietzen wrote: jreilly89 wrote:Sure. You can place the Templates however you want, so long as your Template is not covering the base of a Friendly model.
So long as your template is not covering the base of a friendly model and covers the base of as many enemy models as possible.
Do you have to cover as many as possible? I thought you could place it over whatever.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/12 18:09:04
Subject: Question about allocating Template Wounds
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Lieutenant General
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Yes, the rule clearly states that you must place the template to cover as many models in the target unit as possible.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/12 18:25:17
Subject: Question about allocating Template Wounds
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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KiloFiX wrote:What if:
There are 3 Models that are more toward the 'right-side' and 2 Models that are more toward the 'left-side'.
And, each template can only cover EITHER the right 3 or the left 2.
Can you have both templates cover the right 3 and allocate 6 wounds to all 5 models?
Yes that's correct. You have to cover maximum number of models possible without hurting both your guys.
But the other two models are still in range of the weapon.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/12 20:45:02
Subject: Question about allocating Template Wounds
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Foolproof Falcon Pilot
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KiloFiX wrote:What if:
There are 3 Models that are more toward the 'right-side' and 2 Models that are more toward the 'left-side'.
And, each template can only cover EITHER the right 3 or the left 2.
Can you have both templates cover the right 3 and allocate 6 wounds to all 5 models?
Both templates would have to cover the maximum amount of models possible for the purpose of generating hits, however wounds could be allocated to all 5 models in this circumstance since all 5 models would be within range of the template. In order to determine which models may have wounds allocated to them you can do a "sweeping motion" of the template from the base of the firing model. Models the template can pass over can be wounded by the templates being fired, as they wound be considered "in range".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/12 21:11:09
Subject: Question about allocating Template Wounds
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Dakka Veteran
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Thanks Bo, that answers my question.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/12 22:56:06
Subject: Question about allocating Template Wounds
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Preacher of the Emperor
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The wounds can be dealt to any model within 8.25" from the firing model even if they weren't under the template. But you start at closest model to the unit first.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/12 23:07:52
Subject: Question about allocating Template Wounds
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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
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Bojazz wrote: KiloFiX wrote:What if:
There are 3 Models that are more toward the 'right-side' and 2 Models that are more toward the 'left-side'.
And, each template can only cover EITHER the right 3 or the left 2.
Can you have both templates cover the right 3 and allocate 6 wounds to all 5 models?
Both templates would have to cover the maximum amount of models possible for the purpose of generating hits, however wounds could be allocated to all 5 models in this circumstance since all 5 models would be within range of the template. In order to determine which models may have wounds allocated to them you can do a "sweeping motion" of the template from the base of the firing model. Models the template can pass over can be wounded by the templates being fired, as they wound be considered "in range".
I don't think that's right. The wounds are only applied to the models under the Template, not whatever else is in range.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/12 23:08:38
Subject: Question about allocating Template Wounds
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The Hive Mind
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jreilly89 wrote:Bojazz wrote: KiloFiX wrote:What if:
There are 3 Models that are more toward the 'right-side' and 2 Models that are more toward the 'left-side'.
And, each template can only cover EITHER the right 3 or the left 2.
Can you have both templates cover the right 3 and allocate 6 wounds to all 5 models?
Both templates would have to cover the maximum amount of models possible for the purpose of generating hits, however wounds could be allocated to all 5 models in this circumstance since all 5 models would be within range of the template. In order to determine which models may have wounds allocated to them you can do a "sweeping motion" of the template from the base of the firing model. Models the template can pass over can be wounded by the templates being fired, as they wound be considered "in range".
I don't think that's right. The wounds are only applied to the models under the Template, not whatever else is in range.
Not true. At least according to the wound allocation rules.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/12 23:11:13
Subject: Question about allocating Template Wounds
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Making Stuff
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jreilly89 wrote:I don't think that's right. The wounds are only applied to the models under the Template, not whatever else is in range.
This hasn't been the case since ( IIRC) second edition.
The template just tells you how many models are hit. It has no effect on how wound allocation works.
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