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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/23 23:16:21
Subject: [2000] - Orks - Warboss Piro'ead's Flamez of WAAAGH
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Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
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So I finally got the new Ork Codex, and after playing around with numbers for a while, this is what I cam up with
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Warboss (Piro'ead) - Kombi/Skorcha, Headwoppa's Killchoppa, Warbike
Painboy - Grot orderly, Warbike
ELITES
Nobs - 10x Nobs, Warbikes, WAAAGH Banner, 10x Kombi/Skorchas, 8x Big Choppas, 2x PK
Burna Boyz - 10x Burna Boyz, Trukk w/ Rokkit Launcha, Grot Riggers, Wreckin' Ball
Burna Boyz - 10x Burna Boyz, Trukk w/ Rokkit Launcha, Grot Riggers, Wreckin' Ball
TROOPS
Boyz - 11x Boyz, Boss Nob w/ Big Choppa, Kombi/Skorcha, Boss Pole, Trukk w/ Rokkit Launcha, Grot Riggers, Wreckin' Ball
Boyz - 11x Boyz, Boss Nob w/ Big Choppa, Kombi/Skorcha, Boss Pole, Trukk w/ Rokkit Launcha, Grot Riggers, Wreckin' Ball
FAST
Skorchas - 3x Skorcha Wartrakks
Skorchas - 3x Skorcha Wartrakks
Skorchas - 3x Skorcha Wartrakks
Points come out to exactly 2000
The idea is to rush the trukks forward with the Skorcha units to burn the ever-lovin bejeesus outta everything they can, drop the troops off to hold objectives, drop the burna boyz to occupy enemy troops, while the warboss and his bikers put the hurt on ICs and armor
Any constructive criticism is encouraged and appreciated. I haven't played an orks army before, so trying to iron out some things before I actually go and start spending the money to put it together
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/24 00:50:43
Subject: [2000] - Orks - Warboss Piro'ead's Flamez of WAAAGH
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Fully-charged Electropriest
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This list could be a whole lot of fun! But you wont have much of an answer to MC's or anything with an AV
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/24 02:35:56
Subject: Re:[2000] - Orks - Warboss Piro'ead's Flamez of WAAAGH
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Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
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I was thinking that the PK nobs would help with AV, also, the Killchoppa on the warboss is capable of instakills on 6s
Also, the wrecking balls on the trucks, while range limited, are pretty hefty too
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/24 02:40:11
Subject: Re:[2000] - Orks - Warboss Piro'ead's Flamez of WAAAGH
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Tough-as-Nails Ork Boy
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the Killchoppa on the warboss is capable of instakills on 6s
Exactly only on 6's. I would take some rokkit warbuggies or tankbustas for AV.
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'Nids growing soon
3500 pts. unpainted
Admech 1000 buying & building
If you don't enjoy playing against people with unpainted armies, break into their house when they sleep, paint their figures for them, help yourself to their cheerios and then your problems will be solved.
Well, my opponents usually don't have more than 1-2 Wave Serpents 'cos Serpent spam is very expensive in real life money.
GENERATION 11: The first time you see this, copy and paste it into your sig and add 1 to the number after generation. Consider it a social experiment. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/24 03:05:08
Subject: Re:[2000] - Orks - Warboss Piro'ead's Flamez of WAAAGH
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Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
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So the rokkits and wrecking balls on the trukks won't really do anything?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/24 03:14:53
Subject: [2000] - Orks - Warboss Piro'ead's Flamez of WAAAGH
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Fresh-Faced New User
Washington State, USA
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change one group of Burna Boys for Tank Bustas. Trukks die most of the time before you can get close enough to use the ball. I often have thought about using them but find more important places to use the points. change one unit of skorcha trakks into twin linked rokkit tracks. Balance between rokkits and fire and you will have better luck.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/24 07:33:00
Subject: Re:[2000] - Orks - Warboss Piro'ead's Flamez of WAAAGH
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Yellin' Yoof on a Scooter
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Hah! Burnaboyz have so nice models and nice fluff. Very interesting and funny burna-psycho list!
One thing I should add to previous advices: you have 10 kombi-skorchas on nobbikers but you rarely will have a chance to use them effectively more than 3-5 at one time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/24 16:30:24
Subject: Re:[2000] - Orks - Warboss Piro'ead's Flamez of WAAAGH
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Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
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Honestly, I was thinking a bit about my SM list and how I like to drop a bunch of flamer templates on a squad before assaulting them, and also, was kinda hoping that the auto hit/just gotta roll for wounds of flamer templates would help mitigate the low BS of orks
And it would allow me to get at least 2 good blasts of about 5 templates each, before getting stuck in with all of those big sharp shiny thingz,
should also help a bit in reducing the number of overwatch shots I will have to contend with also, not to mention suckering people into trying to assault my burna boys with all of the d3 auto hit overwatch shots too
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/24 18:46:59
Subject: [2000] - Orks - Warboss Piro'ead's Flamez of WAAAGH
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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Stick those Burnas behind a Promethium Relay, cover and range
If ForgeWorld is an option, a Mega Dread with Super Skorcha (and up to 2 more Skorchas) could be worth looking into.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/24 21:22:32
Subject: [2000] - Orks - Warboss Piro'ead's Flamez of WAAAGH
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Waaagh! Warbiker
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Funny story, I could tell this list was made by an SM player. But, I like the flavor of it, so I'll ignore the stuff that orks normally dont do, and just steer towards things orks really oughta do.
Warboss: Headwoppa is cool, but a powerklaw backed by DLS is superior. Rerolls saves, to-hit and to-wound on all weapons. Plus, gives the entire unit +1WS.The Headwoppa wont instakill vehicles
Painboy: Smart move.
Nob bikers: Just not worth it anymore. They are prohibitively expensive for what they offer. You'll get much better mileage out of regular bikers, not to mention for almost 1/3 the cost. Skorchas are cool, but all those bikers come free with a nice shooty gun, and you can use the points to add more flamers elsewhere. Sure, it really is a super killy unit. But versus things like wraithknights, even if you win it won't really be "worth" it, points wise.
Burna boys: You have to take a big mek or painboss with them, just for the bosspole. Otherwise, your Ld7 takes over, and off they run. Upgrading trukks is usually not a very cost-effective option. With how easily they die, points are better spent on either getting them a bigger ride or buying MOAR. Especially grot riggers. Not really ever gonna help you.
Boys: seem okay. If you save points elsewhere, upgrade the nob weapons to a powerklaw.
Skorchas: No beef here.
If FW is an option(and it ought to be) look into Mekboy Junkas. For a mere 85 points you can have a vehicle that is 11/11/10(can be improved to 12/12/10, actually), has 3 skorchas and a supa skorcha (s6 ap 3) that can transport 6 guys (10 without the supa skorcha) and has a good chance of being a fast vehicle. Meets your flavor?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/24 22:28:36
Subject: Re:[2000] - Orks - Warboss Piro'ead's Flamez of WAAAGH
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Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
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Originally, I had planned to run the burna boyz in some looted wagons upgraded with skorchas, but they nixed it from the codex.
I had thought about maybe looking into some forgeworld stuff, but really can't use it in any tournaments around here and alot of players won't play against forgeworld list or units
I had brought along the WAAAGH banner for the extra +1 WS, but I'm not sure what DLS is cause when I mouse over it all it says is "Dark Lance"
Also haven't heard of a promethium relay. Is that a IA or apocalypse thing?
And again, the skorchas were my attempt to compensate for their abysmal BS, besides, I figured a buncha pyromaniac orks pretty much fit orks on the whole, lol Automatically Appended Next Post: BossMakk wrote:Funny story, I could tell this list was made by an SM player.
And yes, I run a Salamander Flamer/Melta drop list, lol
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/24 23:39:17
Subject: Re:[2000] - Orks - Warboss Piro'ead's Flamez of WAAAGH
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Tough-as-Nails Ork Boy
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I still run looted wagons. Their rules were in white dwarf 27. They work well enough. Put the kill kannon on them though.
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'Nids growing soon
3500 pts. unpainted
Admech 1000 buying & building
If you don't enjoy playing against people with unpainted armies, break into their house when they sleep, paint their figures for them, help yourself to their cheerios and then your problems will be solved.
Well, my opponents usually don't have more than 1-2 Wave Serpents 'cos Serpent spam is very expensive in real life money.
GENERATION 11: The first time you see this, copy and paste it into your sig and add 1 to the number after generation. Consider it a social experiment. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/24 23:42:06
Subject: [2000] - Orks - Warboss Piro'ead's Flamez of WAAAGH
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Waaagh! Warbiker
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Local players wont play FW stuff? Weird, since GW okayed all of it. But everywhere has its own meta, I guess.
The promethium relay is from Stronghold assault. Long story short, gives infantry flamers torrent.
OH! it used to show, but DLS is "Da Lucky Stikk". It givews the bearer and his unit +1WS and allows the bearer to reroll failed saves, to-hit and to-wound rolls. It has a minor caveat, but its a pretty solid relic to take.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/24 23:58:23
Subject: [2000] - Orks - Warboss Piro'ead's Flamez of WAAAGH
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Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
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BossMakk wrote:Local players wont play FW stuff? Weird, since GW okayed all of it. But everywhere has its own meta, I guess.
Local tournaments, not GW, specifically, NO forgeworld units, models, or rules. So the local players stick to that too
BossMakk wrote:The promethium relay is from Stronghold assault. Long story short, gives infantry flamers torrent.
I'll have to check into that, don't have the book, maybe I can find a download somewhere
BossMakk wrote:OH! it used to show, but DLS is "Da Lucky Stikk". It givews the bearer and his unit +1WS and allows the bearer to reroll failed saves, to-hit and to-wound rolls. It has a minor caveat, but its a pretty solid relic to take.
I'm gonna have to look at that one a lil closer I think
And by the way, thanks for the comments guys
Really want to iron everything out BEFORE I start trying to buy anything, cheaper that way
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/25 00:09:28
Subject: [2000] - Orks - Warboss Piro'ead's Flamez of WAAAGH
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Waaagh! Warbiker
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Like I said, fair enough everywhere has its own thing.
Yeah. Its about ten times better than a Waaagh banner. And only costs five points more.
You should be able to find a DL or torrent for the book easily. Not that I promote that sort of thing. Or do it all the time
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/25 02:15:11
Subject: Re:[2000] - Orks - Warboss Piro'ead's Flamez of WAAAGH
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Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
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So, I have tried to adjust the list based off of some of the suggestions here, so here is a revised list
HQ
Warboss - PK, Kombi/Skorcha, DLS, Warbike, 2x Ammo Runts
Painboy - Grot Orderly, Warbike
ELITE
Nobz - 1x Boss Nob w/ PK, 4x Nobz, 5x Warbikes, 5x Kombi/Skorchas, 4x Big Choppas
Burna Boyz - 11x Burna Boyz, Mek w/ Kombi/Skorcha, Grot Oiler
Burna Boyz - 11x Burna Boyz, Mek w/ Kombi/Skorcha, Grot Oiler
TROOPS
Boyz - Eavy Armor, 11x Boyz w/ 10x Slugga, 1x Big Shoota, Boss Nob w/ Big Choppa, Kombi/Skorcha, Boss Pole War Trukk w/ Rokkit Launcha
Boyz - Eavy Armor, 11x Boyz w/ 10x Slugga, 1x Big Shoota, Boss Nob w/ Big Choppa, Kombi/Skorcha, Boss Pole War Trukk w/ Rokkit Launcha
Boyz - Eavy Armor, 11x Boyz w/ 10x Slugga, 1x Big Shoota, Boss Nob w/ Big Choppa, Kombi/Skorcha, Boss Pole War Trukk w/ Rokkit Launcha
FAST
Warbuggy Squad - 3x Skorcha
Warbuggy Squad - 3x Skorcha
Warbuggy Squad - 3x Skorcha
HEAVY
Looted Wagon - Kilkannon, 1x Rokkit Luancha, 2x Skorcha
Looted Wagon - Kilkannon, 1x Rokkit Luancha, 2x Skorcha
Cut down the Nob Biker boyz to 5 instead of 10, gave the warboss PK and DLS, put the burna boyz in the looted wagons with attached mek to try to keep the wagons rolling, warboss and painboy run with the bikerz, skorchas running forward to screen for the trukks and looted wagons and the bikez running where ever they are needed
Was also thinking about maybe replacing one of the boyz squads with a deff dread w/ 2 skorchas, which would free up some points to put elsewhere, not sure though
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