flamers and invisibility

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**paramedicpirate**

well according to RAW flamer always hit.... how does that work against invisibility.

My first thought is that it just hits.

the other side of my brain says otherwise.

I mean flame doesn't care if you can see, it will burn regardless

invisibility bad

fire pretty

**paqman**

Invisibility(p.198) states that attacks made at an invisible target must be done as snap shots.

In snap shot, it states that templates, among other things, cannot fire snapshot. (p.32)

So, logic states that a gout of flame should hit an inivisble target easilly, but rules states otherwise

**BlackTalos**

You might want to read through this:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/637189.page

Your point of view is correct (from both side of the brain): Yes and No, there is no clear answer.

**paqman**

BlackTalos wrote:
You might want to read through this:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/637189.page

Your point of view is correct (from both side of the brain): Yes and No, there is no clear answer.

I also agree with the points in this thread that says that overwatch with templates on invisible target will hit d3 models.

**jreilly89**

AFAIK, there's no been official conclusion, with both sides having good arguments. I'd house rule it or dice off to solve it.

**BlackTalos**

paqman wrote:
BlackTalos wrote:
You might want to read through this:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/637189.page

Your point of view is correct (from both side of the brain): Yes and No, there is no clear answer.

I also agree with the points in this thread that says that overwatch with templates on invisible target will hit d3 models.

Apologies, i did not realise that there was no mention of Overwatch...

You are completely correct, in the Shooting Phase, templates cannot target Invisible models.
As per the link above, Wall of Death V Invisibility is a subject best left to rest for the moment in my opinion.

**Martel732**

Lots of people are playing with house rules on invis already, however. We use hit on "6", but the shots are not considered snap shots. Blasts are considered BS 0. This means blasts hit 33% of the time still, but blasts should be excellent against invis units... they're blasts.

**Gravmyr**

Flamers and blasts would be great if they could target them. It's best to not get into a discussion about what would work well based off common sense.