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 Purifier wrote:
The only downside is that a skitarii can never get objective secured, as they can never provide the HQ necessary to complete the detachments in the BRB

the benifits of their unique detachment more then make up for it

 Purifier wrote:
The only downside is that a skitarii can never get objective secured, as they can never provide the HQ necessary to complete the detachments in the BRB

Maybe the Sktarii FOC can give that... Got to pick up the dex...

lliu wrote:

 Purifier wrote:
The only downside is that a skitarii can never get objective secured, as they can never provide the HQ necessary to complete the detachments in the BRB

Maybe the Sktarii FOC can give that... Got to pick up the dex...

Nah, doesn't have it, but the FOC is still pretty sick. It's nice that the FOC actually gives the Warlord something too, specifically, since your Skitarii warlord is technically just a sergeant, he needs every little bonus he can get.

 Purifier wrote:

lliu wrote:

 Purifier wrote:
The only downside is that a skitarii can never get objective secured, as they can never provide the HQ necessary to complete the detachments in the BRB

Maybe the Sktarii FOC can give that... Got to pick up the dex...

Nah, doesn't have it, but the FOC is still pretty sick. It's nice that the FOC actually gives the Warlord something too, specifically, since your Skitarii warlord is technically just a sergeant, he needs every little bonus he can get.

Yes, that is quite nice actually.

 Purifier wrote:
The only downside is that a skitarii can never get objective secured, as they can never provide the HQ necessary to complete the detachments in the BRB

I was wrong. Disregard.

 Rippy wrote:

 Purifier wrote:
The only downside is that a skitarii can never get objective secured, as they can never provide the HQ necessary to complete the detachments in the BRB

I was wrong. Disregard.

Still, as said before, the dex gives the Skitarii all the goodies it needs.

What about the new crabs?

The rules are nice,rangers' gun can now take the best troop's
gun from the fire warrior
but the models....well,the walkers are quite...stupid....

 jumping galaxy wrote:
The rules are nice,rangers' gun can now take the best troop's
gun from the fire warrior
but the models....well,the walkers are quite...stupid....

They look like crabs.

 jumping galaxy wrote:
The rules are nice,rangers' gun can now take the best troop's
gun from the fire warrior
but the models....well,the walkers are quite...stupid....

I disagree. I loved the chickens from the first time I saw them, and built my new army around 8 of them, and the crabs have really grown on me.
The Rangers also look amazing, and the Vanguard are almost as good.

Sicarians and Ruststalkers are pretty nifty, but I'm not as fond of them as I am of the rest. I have a big unit of 10 Sicarians as my Warlord unit, but I'm gonna leave off the Ruststalkers. Of course, with the limited amount of troops in the book, the stalkers are the ONLY unit I'm not using in my army, and you know what? I don't feel like I'm taking anything that's not worth taking.

The codex is limited to say the least, but every single unit is viable. I really like this Codex.
I want more Skitarii and I want whoever wrote this 'dex to get to do more.

I know, I know, we're getting more admech, but honestly, I don't want admech. I want Skitarii specifically.

 Purifier wrote:

 jumping galaxy wrote:
The rules are nice,rangers' gun can now take the best troop's
gun from the fire warrior
but the models....well,the walkers are quite...stupid....

I disagree. I loved the chickens from the first time I saw them, and built my new army around 8 of them, and the crabs have really grown on me.
The Rangers also look amazing, and the Vanguard are almost as good.

Sicarians and Ruststalkers are pretty nifty, but I'm not as fond of them as I am of the rest. I have a big unit of 10 Sicarians as my Warlord unit, but I'm gonna leave off the Ruststalkers. Of course, with the limited amount of troops in the book, the stalkers are the ONLY unit I'm not using in my army, and you know what? I don't feel like I'm taking anything that's not worth taking.

The codex is limited to say the least, but every single unit is viable. I really like this Codex.
I want more Skitarii and I want whoever wrote this 'dex to get to do more.

I know, I know, we're getting more admech, but honestly, I don't want admech. I want Skitarii specifically.

Tell the truth, I really agree.

 Purifier wrote:


I disagree. I loved the chickens from the first time I saw them, and built my new army around 8 of them, and the crabs have really grown on me.
The Rangers also look amazing, and the Vanguard are almost as good.

You know, this is one of the coolest things about the Skitarri. Even if you hate the models, SOME people absolutely identify with them. Which is fantastic -- not every new Imperium infantry model should look like an army regular or football player with a bolt gun

What about the Eldar? Do you like them?

lliu wrote:
What about the Eldar? Do you like them?

The models? I've always liked the Eldar models. Jetbikes specifically, and the Harlequins in particular. I'm not sure how that relates to the topic, though.

I'm a bit unsure about the 1st warlord trait. Eternal Warrior is nice but on a 2 wound model it seems a bit useless. Maybe if it was Eternal Warrior and +1 Wound.

I was just assembling my first box of Skitarii. Damn, the things are fiddly. VERY fiddly. Beyond Dark Eldar levels of fiddly, it's DKOK-grade fiddlyness we're talking here.

Also, they seem a bit smaller and better proportioned than the average melon-headed Cadian. In all, a beautiful kit, just not something I'd recommend to beginners.

DontEatRawHagis wrote:
I'm a bit unsure about the 1st warlord trait. Eternal Warrior is nice but on a 2 wound model it seems a bit useless. Maybe if it was Eternal Warrior and +1 Wound.

But also T3, and it's nice to at least get those two wounds, you know? Everyone and their mother in a challenge has S6.

 Agent_Tremolo wrote:
I was just assembling my first box of Skitarii. Damn, the things are fiddly. VERY fiddly. Beyond Dark Eldar levels of fiddly, it's DKOK-grade fiddlyness we're talking here.

Also, they seem a bit smaller and better proportioned than the average melon-headed Cadian. In all, a beautiful kit, just not something I'd recommend to beginners.

Fiddly is being nice. They take about 20 times longer than a space marine to assemble.
They're not smaller, but they are better proprtioned. I'd go as far as to say they're bigger than cadians, which is what makes their proportions better.
They stand as tall (if not a tiny fraction taller) than a space marine tac squad member. That insinuates enormous height. Remember a tac squad member is not only a huge guy, he's wearing thick armour as well.

My theory: I don't think they were "better proportioned" on purpose... I think they were sculpted to emphasize their machine nature and that compared to heroic scale humans these guys are intentionally freaky. The fact that they look more normal in heroic scale just goes to show how inhuman their proportions are.

 aka_mythos wrote:
My theory: I don't think they were "better proportioned" on purpose... I think they were sculpted to emphasize their machine nature and that compared to heroic scale humans these guys are intentionally freaky. The fact that they look more normal in heroic scale just goes to show how inhuman their proportions are.

Thing is, Vanguard and Ranger-type Skitarii are just people. People that have had their lower legs severed and replaced with titanium legs, granted, and sure they have a few mech replacements, but these guys are fairly raw meat, as far as admech enhancements goes. They're just normal people stripped of emotions and with an absolute faith in the Omnisiah. It is a great honour for them to have parts replaced with mech parts, but they don't just start off fully kitted. They have to survive for a while to get to that point.

How fiddly? Do you need green stuff to hold it in place?

lliu wrote:
How fiddly? Do you need green stuff to hold it in place?

Nah, you can handle it without. They have some tiny left arms that need to be adjusted. If your fingers are big, I can see that being fiddly.
My gripe is mostly that they are practically mono pose, so it matters a lot that you get the right parts for the specific models, which are of course scattered across the frames. So most of my time was with trying to find the parts I needed for each individual model.

I suppose a twelve years' old's fingers are small enough, neh?

The Skitarii sets arent mix and match like your generic marine

Following the assembly instructions is required so everything fits right.

Ah. No more weird Greenstuff based conversions then.

For SKitarii, what are the heavy support?

lliu wrote:
For SKitarii, what are the heavy support?

Onager Dunecrawlers(They can be taken as just 1 or a full squadron of 3)
Ironstrider Ballistarii(Can be taken as just 1 Ironstrider or a full squadron of 6)

For fast attack is the Sicarians right? Troops for the Skitarii are the rangers slash rad cleanser dudes. What about elites?

Fast Attack is the Sydonian Dragoons.

Elites are Sicarians.

I see. GOT TO GET THE DEX!!!

So, is there a strategy blog somewhere on this forum?