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Never mind about the Bonding Knife ritual- it doesn't apply to Drones. Forgot that GW kinda screwed Tau over that way. If they would have just made Drones wargear like in previous editions... oh well.

Still, a LD test on LD 9 isn't that bad. The only reason why players salivate when they see an enemy Broadsides with Drones is to force that LD test. There is entirely too much fearless in 40K, and one of the reasons why I like 30K so much. Suck it, Space Marines!

 Tamwulf wrote:
Never mind about the Bonding Knife ritual- it doesn't apply to Drones. Forgot that GW kinda screwed Tau over that way. If they would have just made Drones wargear like in previous editions... oh well.

Still, a LD test on LD 9 isn't that bad. The only reason why players salivate when they see an enemy Broadsides with Drones is to force that LD test. There is entirely too much fearless in 40K, and one of the reasons why I like 30K so much. Suck it, Space Marines!

possible leadership tests or doubling out expensive units...is it really that hard of a decision?

Not saying that it makes the unit invincible ether, just saying they are kinda an auto take. You really don't want broadsides getting doubled out, they are very expensive - tanking with drones is much cheaper - it works with any kind of drone too cause you are likely in ruins anyways.

 Tamwulf wrote:
Never mind about the Bonding Knife ritual- it doesn't apply to Drones. Forgot that GW kinda screwed Tau over that way. If they would have just made Drones wargear like in previous editions... oh well.

What in the blazes are you talking about? Drones are models, when you lose models you take a leadership test. And about rather losing drones then broadsides, I have had my command squad jump of the board t2 due to losing only 2 drones in my opponents ENTIRE shooting phase. Tau Ld sucks .

IIRC they didn't use to cause leadership tests though, only gun squads.

I think they always caused Ld tests and counted against squad size. At least in the previous codex anyway.

So they do, just me being forgetful, I suppose.

Just on the warrior vs. MEQ thing.

Popular wisdom to the contrary , Necron Warriors and MEQ have about the same durabilty.

More precisely...

outside a Decurion, Necron Warriors and MEQ are exactly as resistant to AP5+, MEQ is more resistant to AP4, and Warriors are more resistant to AP1-3

whereas

inside a Decurion (or with an attached Cryptek), Warriors are more resistant to AP5+, still more vulnerable to AP4, and even more resistant to AP1-3. If a Chronometron is added, nothing changes with AP5+ obviously, while their resistance vs. AP4 becomes a bit greater than MEQ ans vs. AP1-3 even greater.

So...

Warriors and MEQ are actually not far off from each other, with some variation depending on what is shooting at them.


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Against the IA specifically, Warriors are 1/6 or 1/3 or 1/2 more durable, depending on if they are in a Decurion or not and/or have an attached Cryptek; with an attached Cryptek with a Chronometron they are 33% more durable over that level.

The difference also being that you don't know if you've actually managed to make any casualties at all stick until you've wiped out the entire unit. If your first try to kill Marines fail, you know it straight away and can adjust target priority accordingly. If you kill half a unit's worth of Necrons, they could in fact be alive at the end of your turn.

Schrödinger's warrior in action.

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:
The difference also being that you don't know if you've actually managed to make any casualties at all stick until you've wiped out the entire unit. If your first try to kill Marines fail, you know it straight away and can adjust target priority accordingly. If you kill half a unit's worth of Necrons, they could in fact be alive at the end of your turn.

Schrödinger's warrior in action.

I think you're thinking of the way that Rean Prot used to work. Now it's just a modified version of Feel No Ouchiness.


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what the hell I'll show the math

Bolter vs MEQ: 1/2 x 1/3 = 1/6

Heavy Bolter vs MEQ: 2/3 x 1/3 = 2/9

IA vs MEQ: 5/6

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Straight Necrons, outside Decurion, no Cryptek

Bolter: 1/2 x 1/2 x 2/3 = 1/6 (same as MEQ)

Heavy Bolter: 2/3 x 2/3 x 4/9 (much worse than MEQ)

Ion Accelerator: 5/6 x 5/6 = 25/36 (1/6 better than MEQ)

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Necrons in Decurion or with Cryptek

Bolter: 1/2 x 1/2 x 1/2 = 1/8 (better than MEQ)

Heavy Bolter: 2/3 x 1/2 = 1/3 (still worse than MEQ)

Ion Accelerator: 5/6 x 2/3 = 5/9 (almost a 50% chance of survival!)

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Necrons in Decurion with Cryptek

Bolter: the same

Heavy Bolter: 2/3 x 2/3 x 1/2 = 2/9 (finally the same as MEQ!)

Ion Accelerator: 5/6 x 2/3 x 1/2 = 5/18 (holy crap less than a 1/3 chance to kill one)