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 Paradigm wrote:
It's funny you guys say that; Personally I think with Craig at the helm the last 3 films have all been among the best, Skyfall topping all the ones I've seen (most of them) and being one of my favourite films of all time.

To clarify- nothing wrong with Daniel Craig as Bond- he's perfect for the role. It's the storytelling I take issue with.

Le Chiffre= evil gambler who makes a shed load of cash for terrorists. Pretty good stuff.
Dominic Greene= evil green technology developer trying to help a bolivian general stage a coup to own...water. Meh.
Silva= survivor of cyanide capsule ingestion peed off at M and trying to destroy MI6. Interesting but a pretty crappy villain.

Give me Goldfinger or Moonraker anyday over that lot.

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 Paradigm wrote:
It's funny you guys say that; Personally I think with Craig at the helm the last 3 films have all been among the best, Skyfall topping all the ones I've seen (most of them) and being one of my favourite films of all time.

To clarify- nothing wrong with Daniel Craig as Bond- he's perfect for the role. It's the storytelling I take issue with.

Le Chiffre= evil gambler who makes a shed load of cash for terrorists. Pretty good stuff.
Dominic Greene= evil green technology developer trying to help a bolivian general stage a coup to own...water. Meh.
Silva= survivor of cyanide capsule ingestion peed off at M and trying to destroy MI6. Interesting but a pretty crappy villain.

Give me Goldfinger or Moonraker anyday over that lot.

Fair enough!

I imagine some of it might be down to the fact I didn't grow up with the older Bonds (Die Another Day was my first, Casino Royale was the first I really paid attention to), so it's not so 'different' to me. I like the more personal side of it (which is why I love Skyfall so much, it's actually about Bond rather than about Bond doing stuff). The gadgets, girls and witty one-liners of the older stuff does have an appeal of it's own, and most of them are still great films and just fun, but personally I'd rather have the newer stuff.

The Craig era is my Bond in the same way as the Tennant era is my Dr Who; there's been great stuff before and will probably be some great stuff after, but if I have to pick only one, it's that one.

Don't forget QoS had only a rough draft to work with and that the director and Craig had to improvise as they went along since the Writer's Strike didn't allow for a writer to help with the script in any way.

 Ahtman wrote:
Don't forget QoS had only a rough draft to work with and that the director and Craig had to improvise as they went along since the Writer's Strike didn't allow for a writer to help with the script in any way.

Ah yes. That silly nonsense. Did that strike actually get them anywhere?

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 Ahtman wrote:
Don't forget QoS had only a rough draft to work with and that the director and Craig had to improvise as they went along since the Writer's Strike didn't allow for a writer to help with the script in any way.

Ah yes. That silly nonsense. Did that strike actually get them anywhere?

The Writer's Strike 2007-08

Craigs been growing on me throughout the series even though CR was average and QoS was gak.
Enjoyed Skyfall to be fair and latest trailer looks decent.

Looking forward to this, loved Skyfall and this looks to be following a similar direction in terms of plot and tone.

I do have one complaint about the trailer though, not enough of the new Aston Martin. Though I only say that because I was involved with building the cars they used for filming.

 Nick Ellingworth wrote:

I do have one complaint about the trailer though, not enough of the new Aston Martin. Though I only say that because I was involved with building the cars they used for filming.

Lucky bastard! that new Aston looks awesome!

Not quite as nice as the DB5, but then few cars are!

 Paradigm wrote:

 Nick Ellingworth wrote:

I do have one complaint about the trailer though, not enough of the new Aston Martin. Though I only say that because I was involved with building the cars they used for filming.

Lucky bastard! that new Aston looks awesome!

Not quite as nice as the DB5, but then few cars are!

Yeah it's going to be a bit weird seeing carbon fibre parts I made up on screen.

It isn't enough that you probably got to keep one (right?) and drive it everyday anyway?

Right?

Trailer looks neat, though I'm still pretty skeptical. I LOVED Casino Royale but the other two movies put me to sleep. It didn't help that Skyfall borrowed SO heavily from the Nolan Batman movies. I'll probably still watch Spectre in theaters, but I don't think Craig is ever gonna top his first outing as Bond.

Finally able to sit down and watch the trailer here.... I am cautiously optimistic. to say the least.

I just feel that there's been quite a few movies/series that Ive really enjoyed and seen an awesome trailer for the next installment (or release for the one off films) and been burned by an awesome trailer that translated to a mediocre film.


With the recent casting announcements and all, I am leaning more towards the fanboy side and less the cautious side though should be good.

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nothing too spoilery.

Yup, nothing that couldn't be gleaned fromt he trailer.

I like how all these new movies operate so close together in a quasi-linked narrative.

Next trailer/TV spot:

Looks like it has potential to be good!

The best thing I took from that is that the DB10 shoots flames out the back... Which is just about the only way that car could be cooler!

Well, I loved all three of the newest ones (admittedly QoS the least...) and it's got Christoph Waltz in it so I'm pretty sure I'll love this too.

As far as I am concerned, there have been only two James Bonds.

That of Sean Connery, and that of Daniel Craig.

Roger Moore was really too old for the part, and . . . Well, I would have to look up names to find those who followed Moore.

But Daniel Craig, and the team behind the most recent have concocted a potent mix of novelty and nostalgia to give us something that appeals to both newer and older fans of Bond.

And it gives us a link between past and present, between Cold War and the New World.

MB

 Paradigm wrote:
The best thing I took from that is that the DB10 shoots flames out the back... Which is just about the only way that car could be cooler!

Red paint job?

GG


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BeAfraid wrote:
As far as I am concerned, there have been only two James Bonds.

That of Sean Connery, and that of Daniel Craig.

Roger Moore was really too old for the part, and . . . Well, I would have to look up names to find those who followed Moore.

But Daniel Craig, and the team behind the most recent have concocted a potent mix of novelty and nostalgia to give us something that appeals to both newer and older fans of Bond.

And it gives us a link between past and present, between Cold War and the New World.

MB

I don't know...Roger Moore was pretty good in "Live and Let Die", "Man with the Golden gun".

But to be honest he suffered from the same problem Connery did in the later films, which is to say they got too silly.

GG

BeAfraid wrote:
As far as I am concerned, there have been only two James Bonds.

That of Sean Connery, and that of Daniel Craig.

Roger Moore was really too old for the part, and . . . Well, I would have to look up names to find those who followed Moore.

But Daniel Craig, and the team behind the most recent have concocted a potent mix of novelty and nostalgia to give us something that appeals to both newer and older fans of Bond.

And it gives us a link between past and present, between Cold War and the New World.

MB

If you're a fan of those two, I'd certainly suggest checking out the Timothy Dalton ones, particularly Licence To Kill. They're fun without the silliness of the Moore stuff, dark without going quite as gritty as the newest ones.

You may also like some of the Pierce Brosnan ones as well.

The only decent Pierce Brosnan ones are GoldenEye and Tomorrow Never Dies. World is Not Enough and Die Another Day were fething tripe IMO.

Ok... Timothy Dalton's first few were not so bad.

And the silliness of the latter Connery and most (if not all) of the Moore Bomd Films is just too much to bear.

It is a pity that Timothy Dalton wasn't younger, as he would have been pretty good with a decade shaved from his age.

I think the Daniel Craig films have hit a sweet spot with Bond, though.

Just the right mix of modern novelty and past nostalgia.

I am willing to bet (I wish there was someplace to record this for posterity, so that I could either say "I told you so" or be mocked for it) that once they replace Daniel Craig, that the next Bond will pay homage to Roger Moore.

I LOVED Roger Moore as The Saint (which is what got him the job as Bond), but the 1970's were not kind to anyone but Glam Rock and Punk.

MB

It looks promising but I'll wait to hear from friends if it was good. I wasn't happy when I paid 10$ for the flaming bag of dog crap that was Skyfall. I can't remember a theatrical release with more plot holes.

 Wraithlordmechanic wrote:
It looks promising but I'll wait to hear from friends if it was good. I wasn't happy when I paid 10$ for the flaming bag of dog crap that was Skyfall. I can't remember a theatrical release with more plot holes.

The one before it was much worse..........

Might go and watch it with friends - unless something better one - I liked the old gadgets and girls more - or Kingsman

It's a shame too. I really enjoyed Casino Royale.

BeAfraid wrote:
Ok... Timothy Dalton's first few were not so bad.

Dalton only did 2.

I liked the Dalton films. They were kind of Daniel Craig Bond before Daniel Craig. They just weren't what the audience of the time wanted.

I got really excited when I saw that insignia.

Ah...if for some reason you hated Skyfall?

It might be time to give up on the current Bond series!

 Alpharius wrote:
Ah...if for some reason you hated Skyfall?

It might be time to give up on the current Bond series!

I just thought it was very average - not as bad as the second one but merely meh............. I was hoping the fourth one would be more to my liking..........