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Ah, I see - well maybe it will be?

I'm confident I'll enjoy it, and I hope you do too!

Weird that the next Mission Impossible and the next Bond seem to have similar storylines too...

 Alpharius wrote:
Ah...if for some reason you hated Skyfall?

It might be time to give up on the current Bond series!

Here's a couple reasons.

http://youtu.be/xmoIDKqfY44

http://youtu.be/5FWfg__wKSY

 Wraithlordmechanic wrote:

Here's a couple reasons.

Honestly mate... I enjoyed those two clips, but I also loved Skyfall... and I think both clips missed the point of Bond movies:

-they aren't supposed to be realistic.
-they are all about sexy and sleek and "cool"
-They are supposed to be FUN

I think the core of what bothers me about that movie isn't even in those videos and it is twofold:
first, Bond is not fit to be an agent as he fails basic tests to certify. I don't know about you, but I prefer Bond to be competent.
Second, he fails. It was his job to protect her and she dies. Not only that, but she dies because he decided to play home alone with the bad guys. And to top it all off, when he goes back to work everyone is cool with how he so utterly failed.

I know I'm supposed to go along with all of this for the sake of fun, but all this stuff served to shatter my willing suspension of disbelief.

 Wraithlordmechanic wrote:

first, Bond is not fit to be an agent as he fails basic tests to certify. I don't know about you, but I prefer Bond to be competent.

Personally, I think that if you were to give bond those same tests before or after the events of Casino Royale, or most any of the previous films, he'd fail them. IMO, he should ALWAYS fail the "clinical tests" precisely because he's a field agent and has the instinctive ability to "switch it on" in life or death situations.

The second part, I'm more sympathetic to you, because his job was to protect her... But at the same time, with the levels of techno spying available, the whole aspect of "who works for Spectre that we don't know about?" combine to create a situation where the only real option is to get off the grid. Of course, in the British Isles, about the only way to get off the grid, is to go to a place like Skyfall.

Did someone say Spectra?

Oh, sorry, it is that octopussy thing isn't it?
A purple turtleneck would look better.

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

 Wraithlordmechanic wrote:

first, Bond is not fit to be an agent as he fails basic tests to certify. I don't know about you, but I prefer Bond to be competent.

Personally, I think that if you were to give bond those same tests before or after the events of Casino Royale, or most any of the previous films, he'd fail them. IMO, he should ALWAYS fail the "clinical tests" precisely because he's a field agent and has the instinctive ability to "switch it on" in life or death situations.

The second part, I'm more sympathetic to you, because his job was to protect her... But at the same time, with the levels of techno spying available, the whole aspect of "who works for Spectre that we don't know about?" combine to create a situation where the only real option is to get off the grid. Of course, in the British Isles, about the only way to get off the grid, is to go to a place like Skyfall.

Indeed. I'd also add that the ending is one of the reasons Skyfall stands out from the rest; how often do we see Bond fail, or at the least win at very, very great cost? Yeah, he's supposed to win all the time, that's just who he is, but I for one greatly appreciated Skyfall changing the formula and making the whole thing a bit more personal.

It reminds us that Bond is human, that he does have weaknesses, and that he can fail.

 Wraithlordmechanic wrote:
I think the core of what bothers me about that movie isn't even in those videos and it is twofold:
first, Bond is not fit to be an agent as he fails basic tests to certify. I don't know about you, but I prefer Bond to be competent.
Second, he fails. It was his job to protect her and she dies. Not only that, but she dies because he decided to play home alone with the bad guys. And to top it all off, when he goes back to work everyone is cool with how he so utterly failed.

I know I'm supposed to go along with all of this for the sake of fun, but all this stuff served to shatter my willing suspension of disbelief.

You must be a hoot at parties...

 Paradigm wrote:

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

 Wraithlordmechanic wrote:

first, Bond is not fit to be an agent as he fails basic tests to certify. I don't know about you, but I prefer Bond to be competent.

Personally, I think that if you were to give bond those same tests before or after the events of Casino Royale, or most any of the previous films, he'd fail them. IMO, he should ALWAYS fail the "clinical tests" precisely because he's a field agent and has the instinctive ability to "switch it on" in life or death situations.

The second part, I'm more sympathetic to you, because his job was to protect her... But at the same time, with the levels of techno spying available, the whole aspect of "who works for Spectre that we don't know about?" combine to create a situation where the only real option is to get off the grid. Of course, in the British Isles, about the only way to get off the grid, is to go to a place like Skyfall.

Indeed. I'd also add that the ending is one of the reasons Skyfall stands out from the rest; how often do we see Bond fail, or at the least win at very, very great cost? Yeah, he's supposed to win all the time, that's just who he is, but I for one greatly appreciated Skyfall changing the formula and making the whole thing a bit more personal.

It reminds us that Bond is human, that he does have weaknesses, and that he can fail.

er most of the time - most of the films have him making major mistakes, getting plenty of allies (usually pretty girls but not always) killed - agreed he normally comes through "in the end" but seldom without substantial cost - sometimes even people he cares about...........

This has been true since the very beginning - just used to be a bit of humour and fun gadgets to balance the bad stuff

Feeling the need to go out and buy a safari suit

Did anybody notice at 1:45, echoes of OHMSS music?

Awesome! Can't come soon enough!

Man... The more I see of this bond, the more I like of him, and he's already my favorite bond


And I definitely think "Hans Landa" is going to make a devilishly good bond-villain.

doesn't quite do it for me... maybe it's the colours ?

.. so seems that Sam Smith will be doing the new Bond song for this film.


... well.. time will tell.



Relating .. ish .. to that :

http://www.empireonline.com/features/lost-bond-themes/p1

Johnny Cash doing Thunderball is ..well... yeah.

Bond theme tunes are a strange thing, most of them, quite frankly, are dire, but I've still got nearly all of them on the old CD box set

When Spectre is released, I'll be blasting them out in celebration. Sorry neighbours

On a separate note, has anybody tried doing an Alan Partridge: watch every Bond film back to back?

I tried it 2 years ago, but I couldn't go the distance

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
Bond theme tunes are a strange thing, most of them, quite frankly, are dire, but I've still got nearly all of them on the old CD box set

When Spectre is released, I'll be blasting them out in celebration. Sorry neighbours

On a separate note, has anybody tried doing an Alan Partridge: watch every Bond film back to back?

I tried it 2 years ago, but I couldn't go the distance

Can you sleep at any point? We need rules and criteria man! This is a nerd forum!

I honestly think Octopussy or Man with the Golden Gun would kill me during such a marathon. If they failed, Never Say Never again would surely do the job.

 Easy E wrote:

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
Bond theme tunes are a strange thing, most of them, quite frankly, are dire, but I've still got nearly all of them on the old CD box set

When Spectre is released, I'll be blasting them out in celebration. Sorry neighbours

On a separate note, has anybody tried doing an Alan Partridge: watch every Bond film back to back?

I tried it 2 years ago, but I couldn't go the distance

Can you sleep at any point? We need rules and criteria man! This is a nerd forum!

I honestly think Octopussy or Man with the Golden Gun would kill me during such a marathon. If they failed, Never Say Never again would surely do the job.

Sleeping's cheating. Energy drinks are recommended. Toilet breaks are only permitted during the end credits.

If we assume roughly two hours a movie that will require staying up for almost two days.

 Ahtman wrote:
If we assume roughly two hours a movie that will require staying up for almost two days.

Nobody said it would be easy

Besides, sleep deprivation is the least of your problems. Finding a chair that is comfortable on the rear is far more important

Two days is nothing. I've been stuck in airports for longer than that!

Maybe you were, but you weren't forced to watch Octopussy, The Man with the Golden Gun, and Never Say Never Again were you?

 Easy E wrote:
Maybe you were, but you weren't forced to watch Octopussy, The Man with the Golden Gun, and Never Say Never Again were you?

All Better than Quantum of Solace or Skyfall IMO

It's funny, I remember that someone on the forum was posting about thought that James Bond wasn't that big of a deal in the UK...

The 'Writing's on the Wall' the new Bond song came out today and has become a bit of a national scandal with *very* mixed opinions about it.

I like the backing instrumentation. I really don't like the singing, though, which sort of spoils it for me.

It opens ok and then the vocals kick in and I have to switch it off lol. Sam Smith is NOT Bond theme song material. Give us Chris Cornell(Soundgarden/Audioslave)- loved his Casino Royale theme song.

@AoV: agreed, CC did an awesome job!!!

i have to say, i really like Craig as Bond...
Casino Royale is my favorite Bond movie...
Craig won me over in Layer Cake, so to see him end up as the new Bond was awesome...

Sean Connery is still my favorite Bond, though...
he taught me how to approach the ladies with style, flair, and complete recklessness...
plus he had the best accent...

looking forward to SPECTRE...
Bond movies are always good to paint to...
explosions and gunfire are like meditation when painting Space Marines...

cheers
jah

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
Feeling the need to go out and buy a safari suit

Did anybody notice at 1:45, echoes of OHMSS music?

Yes I did and it ruled!

Gimmie! Gimme now!

It's out now, so while I haven't seen the film and probably won't for a bit, I've edited the title with spoiler warnings so feel free to discuss the movie here and save on duplicate threads.