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I am having a tough time deciding which is the better HQ to run in a Khorne Daemonkin army. Firstly, both are natural choices to run with flesh hound packs. However, they both took serious hits on their killing power, from losing the axe of Khorne for the herald (and making it cost way too much) and the AoBF for the CL. So now neither of them are really meat grinders anymore.
Anyways here's how I see it:
-chaos lord is more expensive
-chaos lord has access to a 4++
-chaos lord has 2 ccw and rage
-chaos lord has an extra wound
-chaos lord has a 3+
-herald has better combat stats
-herald has +1 strength (and furious charge)
-is much cheaper and comes with a 3++
-is able to buff a squad

The hardest part for me is the CL has such low strength, so even his potential for a lot of attacks is wasted due to trouble wounding.
However, I am still having trouble deciding which is the better choice to lead a Khorne Daemonkin army. What are all your thoughts?

The herald is good in that he's super cheap , ap3 and fearless. So works well with culists/marines/terminators stuff that fearless is priceless for.

Honestly the chaos lord is better from the main codex or supplement and allied in. Goes great with flesh hounds.

Chaos Lords are fearless as well and start at a base cost of 65 points with the mark he's like 75 I think, then he has to get a Invulnerable.

The big advantage the Herald has over the Lord is he's a serious unit buff with giving a CC unit Hatred through use of the Loci.

Yeah the problem is that there is really no way to make a beatstick chaos lord from Daemonkin. He has low strength, plus the axe of Khorne is ridiculously costed. The relic axe that gains abilities is +1S but unwieldy makes it pretty useless.

However for 160 points you can make a jugger herald with the hatred locus and with the sword that gives blood points. That gives him 6 S6 attacks on the charge. The only downside is his lack of a 3+ save (which can be mitigated since he'll usually be in a blob and most challenge contenders will have at least AP3 anyway) and one less wound, which could hurt but he should be in a blob anyway. It sucks that heralds lost 10 pt axes of Khorne though...

A price! Because it's a beast of a unit and it will draw fire away from other things!

You can very easily make a beat stick of a Chaos Lord with the codex , because he has access to the Eternal Warrior armour and can take Powerfists and get's furious charge.

You can get him up to 8 attacks on the charge.

Hollismason wrote:
You can very easily make a beat stick of a Chaos Lord with the codex , because he has access to the Eternal Warrior armour and can take Powerfists and get's furious charge.

You can get him up to 8 attacks on the charge.

The eternal warrior armor is too expensive for 50 points since you already have a 3+.
He also does not get furious charge unless you waste blood points.
A chaos lord with the eternal warrior/FnP armor, PF, LC, and sigil is 235 points and has 7 attacks on the charge. Waaaaayyy too expensive to be worth it.

 herpguy wrote:

Hollismason wrote:
You can very easily make a beat stick of a Chaos Lord with the codex , because he has access to the Eternal Warrior armour and can take Powerfists and get's furious charge.

You can get him up to 8 attacks on the charge.

The eternal warrior armor is too expensive for 50 points since you already have a 3+.
He also does not get furious charge unless you waste blood points.
A chaos lord with the eternal warrior/FnP armor, PF, LC, and sigil is 235 points and has 7 attacks on the charge. Waaaaayyy too expensive to be worth it.

Army wide Furious Charge/Rage is hardly a waste if you're about to charge all your units anyway. Especially if you only had 2 Points at the start of the turn (maybe they were unable to kill any of your units and you were going for a turn2 charge). And if you were running the Blood Host, you could get the FNP reward and pick the Furious Charge/Rage result as your bonus. Summoning is a bit over-rated imo, I think you're much better off picking the buff rewards.

Does the Herald still get the Juggernaut ride? If so, he is my choice. They always seem to be cheaper in terms of HQs and yet can still do quite a lot.

The Blood Host allows you to pick 1 and then get 1 for free , so going with the 3 Point FNP and 2 point Furious Charge and rage makes the Chaos Lord w/ anything really good.

The sword that get's better he's swinging on ST6 AP2 , and it just get's better beyond that.

Only problem is it's at I1, so it's too easy for him to get killed.

I think hatred from a herald has better synergy with the army wide buffs.

IMO Massive waves of hounds with 5++ invo, FNP, FC, and hammer of wrath are the best thing in that codex.

Buff the hounds or build anti tank.