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Flashy Flashgitz





St Louis

so... Void Shield projects 12 inches. The Warhound and reaver but have them modelled onto the model to we measured from each generator to determine the 12 inches.

If a unit gets inside the 12 inches they ignore the shield correct?

also nothing stops a unit from deep striking inside the shield either?

Since it is projcted I assume it protects friendly units inside. However, If an enemy unit DS inside of it would the shield still provide protection to them if the shot came from outside the shield? (or does it auto drop for the them to fire)

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I think you are confusing the rules for a Warhound or Reaver Titan's Void Shields with the Projected Void Shields on a Void Shield Generator.

The Projected Void Shields rule in Stronghold Assault is quite clear about the answers to your questions.

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 Mr. Shine wrote:
I think you are confusing the rules for a Warhound or Reaver Titan's Void Shields with the Projected Void Shields on a Void Shield Generator.

The Projected Void Shields rule in Stronghold Assault is quite clear about the answers to your questions.


i agree they are....

but what about the Titan void shields which is what the question is about

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Abel





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What Mr. Shine is trying to tell you is that the shields are not the same and use the rules that come with the model.

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The different types of Void Shield Rules are not interchangeable.

Projected Void Shields Special Rule are only for Void Shield Generators - This is the one which creates the bubble effect
Void Shields purchased for any other building use the Void Shield War-gear Rule - These defend just the building, the battlements and their occupants
Void Shields found on the Titan would use the Rules found on the Titan - Can't remember them, probably just Titan specific

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The Void Shields on Titans only protect the Titan.

Titan Void shields only protect the titan from shooting that originates more than 12" away from the titan. Any shots coming from inside the zone are inside the voids and thus do not hit them first, they hit normal armor values. Other units do not benefit from Titan void shields.

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Speedy Swiftclaw Biker





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 Grey Templar wrote:
more than 12" away from the titan.


This is no longer in the new rules.
   
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Ankh Morpork

 tenebre wrote:
but what about the Titan void shields which is what the question is about


The rules for Reaver and Warhound Titan Void Shields are also clear about the answers to your questions.

This is a rules clarification forum, not rules provision. Go and read the rules.
   
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 Mr. Shine wrote:
 tenebre wrote:
but what about the Titan void shields which is what the question is about


The rules for Reaver and Warhound Titan Void Shields are also clear about the answers to your questions.

This is a rules clarification forum, not rules provision. Go and read the rules.


Kind of a douche reply there..... not only did i read them but 5 others read them and there was a question about which way to play them so I "dared" to ask for clarification.

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Ankh Morpork

Your original question was poorly worded and didn't make a lot of sense so I answered as best I could understand. You then clarified it to basically be asking if the rules were the same for two totally different units.

I just pointed out the rules are clear for each instance and that this is not a forum to provide them for you. Blunt or direct of me, sure, but hardly a douche reply.
   
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I will agree with Tenebre,
It might seem an obvious error that the Opening Posers group made, reading the wrong Rule to begin with, but the Rules are similarly names and have widely varying instructions so such mistakes can happen. Some people might over-look the fact they are not looking at the correct Rule to begin with through human error alone. When you have Rules with the similar name that mistake can happen more often, even seasoned Rule-Lawyers make mistake. This is why I posted with an explanation showing that there are different Rules and how to apply them to each specific situation, cause it was fairly obvious someone was reading the wrong Rule... telling them to read it again never would have helped!

However, if you ever feel like simply stating 'read your book' do ask one question to the Opening Poster first:
. Why do you believe it works the way you are describing?
Find out what the cause root of the problem is before trying to address it, and if it is 'I just don't have the book...' then the answer is to get the book.

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San Antonio, TX

 tenebre wrote:
 Mr. Shine wrote:
 tenebre wrote:
but what about the Titan void shields which is what the question is about


The rules for Reaver and Warhound Titan Void Shields are also clear about the answers to your questions.

This is a rules clarification forum, not rules provision. Go and read the rules.


Kind of a douche reply there..... not only did i read them but 5 others read them and there was a question about which way to play them so I "dared" to ask for clarification.


It was blunt, but not douchey at all.

I reread the different rules, and they all seem pretty clear. What actually confused you or still is?

   
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Titans do not project their void shields, and so are always protected by them except against close combat attacks. They have no 12" radius bubble.
   
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Ankh Morpork

JinxDragon wrote:
I will agree with Tenebre,
It might seem an obvious error that the Opening Posers group made, reading the wrong Rule to begin with, but the Rules are similarly names and have widely varying instructions so such mistakes can happen. Some people might over-look the fact they are not looking at the correct Rule to begin with through human error alone. When you have Rules with the similar name that mistake can happen more often, even seasoned Rule-Lawyers make mistake. This is why I posted with an explanation showing that there are different Rules and how to apply them to each specific situation, cause it was fairly obvious someone was reading the wrong Rule... telling them to read it again never would have helped!

However, if you ever feel like simply stating 'read your book' do ask one question to the Opening Poster first:
. Why do you believe it works the way you are describing?
Find out what the cause root of the problem is before trying to address it, and if it is 'I just don't have the book...' then the answer is to get the book.


You may notice my first post was stating I thought he was confused about the two rules. As it was, I thought he was querying the rules for Projected Void Shields and stated that they were quite clear how they worked, in the absence of the OP stating, "I'm confused about X."

When they stated they were in fact confused about Reaver/Warhound Void Shields I again pointed out they were quite clear about how they worked, in the absence again of, "I'm confused about X."

The OP's clarification to me basically equated to, "Okay yeah I know the Void Shield Generator's rules are clear, but what about the Titan's Void Shields?" That seemed to me to be a dig at rules he did not have and was not a question of, "Hey, X is confusing me, could you clarify?"

Anyway, question appears to be answered.
   
 
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