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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/05 13:55:23
Subject: [1850] - orks - trting to find a competetive list with what i have
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Hq- warboss-bike-PK-lucky stick
hq- painboy- bike
hq-badrukk
troops- 29 boys-nob-pk-boss pole
troops- 29 boys-nob-pk-boss pole
troops- 19 boys-nob-pk-boss pole
fast-10 biker boys- nob-pk-boss pole
Heavy-9 flash gits- battlewagon (badrukk goes here)
Heavy- battlewagon (boys go here)
Heavy- morkanought-kff-grot riggers
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/05 17:28:29
Subject: [1850] - orks - trting to find a competetive list with what i have
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Waaagh! Warbiker
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Not too terrible! Lotsa bodies, some tough scary guys, and some nice dakka. I'd just drop Badrukks since he's kinda meh, but solid plan.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/05 17:40:51
Subject: [1850] - orks - trting to find a competetive list with what i have
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Regular Dakkanaut
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What do you suggest instead of him? Another warboss on a bike or maybe in the battlewagon with the boys to make that one a more comparable threat to the other 2 fast units?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/05 17:46:53
Subject: [1850] - orks - trting to find a competetive list with what i have
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Nasty Nob
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Yeah Might give opponent anti tank a reason to not shoot the flash git wagon first.
Flash Gitz might benefit nicely from a klaw though. Give warboss Dead shiny shoota so he can sling lead with flash gitz until time to assault
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I am the kinda ork that takes his own washing machine apart, puts new bearings in it, then puts it back together, and it still works. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/05 18:58:36
Subject: [1850] - orks - trting to find a competetive list with what i have
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Waaagh! Warbiker
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Painboy with flash gitz is pretty solid. You can add in a mek with killsaw as well, and you'd still have 15 points left.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 23:00:44
Subject: [1850] - orks - trting to find a competetive list with what i have
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Regular Dakkanaut
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whats the difference in a killsaw and a powerclaw? lol
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/07 01:41:55
Subject: [1850] - orks - trting to find a competetive list with what i have
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Roarin' Runtherd
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With the Kill Saw, you get to roll an extra dice when you try for Armor Piercing...I think.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/07 01:47:17
Subject: [1850] - orks - trting to find a competetive list with what i have
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
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Minion_of_Gozer wrote:With the Kill Saw, you get to roll an extra dice when you try for Armor Piercing...I think.
Yes indeed. Against non vehicle models, it's still a power klaw, but it's an amazing Klaw for killin Land Raiders
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Shadowrun is the best game ever. It's the only thing I have ever played in which I have jumped out of a shot out van with a chainsaw to cut a flying drone in half before leveling a building with ANFO assisted by a troll, a dwarf, an elf, and a wizard. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/07 08:58:06
Subject: [1850] - orks - trting to find a competetive list with what i have
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Waaagh! Warbiker
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Flashgits aren't competitive (sorry). They're too expensive for a unit who only has a 6+ armour save and they're outclassed by Lootas who don't need a battlewagon to do their job.
Being said, if you like Flashgits, then I'd be asking what upgrades you have on your battlewagon? I'd say a Ram and 3 or 4 Rokkits as standard.
For your other battlewagon, are you using it to transport your boys to the fight? or keeping at distance to shoot?
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30 Orks by Foot.
17-20 in a Battlewagon.
12 in a Trukk.
I want offical rules for the Super-Ork that the Mad Dok is working on... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/07 11:12:40
Subject: [1850] - orks - trting to find a competetive list with what i have
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Its just running some boys up and if it happens to live to drop them off it will go sit on a objective lol, i dont particularly like Lootas every time i have used them they just get shot up and run off the board
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/07 13:40:29
Subject: [1850] - orks - trting to find a competetive list with what i have
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Waaagh! Warbiker
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theemporerprotectsnone wrote:Hq- warboss-bike-PK-lucky stick
hq- painboy- bike
hq-badrukk
troops- 29 boys-nob-pk-boss pole
troops- 29 boys-nob-pk-boss pole
troops- 19 boys-nob-pk-boss pole
fast-10 biker boys- nob-pk-boss pole
Heavy-9 flash gits- battlewagon (badrukk goes here)
Heavy- battlewagon (boys go here)
Heavy- morkanought-kff-grot riggers
theemporerprotectsnone wrote:Its just running some boys up and if it happens to live to drop them off it will go sit on a objective lol, i dont particularly like Lootas every time i have used them they just get shot up and run off the board
This will probably be because your opponent knows how dangerous they are. A squad of 15 lootas with either a mini Mek or a Warboss/Big Mek in Mega-armour keeps the squad going. The former layout likes to hide behind ADLs whereas the 2nd can fit inside a battlewagon, or just walk across the field.
Lootas also need your army to be filled with multiple threats which, I'm sorry to say, 2x 30 boys running across the field doesn't really do. Without a painboy or weirdboy to boose those units, people can ignore those blobs or reverse tarpit them, while they take out your more threatening units (your lootas).
You have nothing BAD in your list currently, but the best thing you have is your bikes. You need better supporting fire to protect them.
Does your group allow you to play with forgeworld characters? If so their biker boss is much better than the regular biker warboss.
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30 Orks by Foot.
17-20 in a Battlewagon.
12 in a Trukk.
I want offical rules for the Super-Ork that the Mad Dok is working on... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/07 15:42:58
Subject: [1850] - orks - trting to find a competetive list with what i have
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Nope im getting ready for the ATC so no forgeworld
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/07 16:13:04
Subject: [1850] - orks - trting to find a competetive list with what i have
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Screamin' Stormboy
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I am going to suggest something. Keep Badrukk he is the only ork character with Inv. save in the first place so he is already better than the warboss. So you could drop the warboss and take another painboy or something if you wanted. But I would keep him with the bikers but it is an option.
Instead drop the flash gitz and put Baddrukk in the battlewagon with some tankbustas. A unit of 10 tank bustas is just a little more than the cost of 5 flash gitz. Add three bomb squigs for some good hits on hard objects then a nob with a pk toss in the 3 cheap meks and arm them kustom mega blastas like Badrukk or give them rokkits as well. And that will give you a battlewagon full of rokkit spitting death for a little more than what you were paying for 10 flashgitz. . This will be something your opponents will fire at like crazy to get rid of or you will wipe-out tons of stuff.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/07 19:59:39
Subject: [1850] - orks - trting to find a competetive list with what i have
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Regular Dakkanaut
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.hmmm i deff like the idea of taking tank bustas, i will have to see if i can pick some up b4 the tournament
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/07 21:28:55
Subject: [1850] - orks - trting to find a competetive list with what i have
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Dakka Veteran
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Not sure why the flash git hate. Mine always do well , way better than lootas. In fact I don't use lootas any more.
I put 10 flash gitz in a trukk and use them as shock troops. I rarely get the bs 3. People forget they are nobs (S4 A3 and W2) and under estimate them in assaults.
they are also better at MC killing than lootas do to half the time ignoring armor.
But that's my experience.
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- Neva trust a Deff Skull , gitz just wanna take yur lootz
- Only good Deff Skull iz a Ded one ! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/08 02:49:48
Subject: [1850] - orks - trting to find a competetive list with what i have
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Regular Dakkanaut
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i think i will like them i havent gotton to play test yet
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Hq- warboss-bike-PK-lucky stick
hq- painboy- bike
hq-big mek-kff
troops- 19 boys-nob-pk-boss pole
troops- 19 boys-nob-pk-boss pole
troops- 19 boys-nob-pk-boss pole
elite- 10 tank bustas-2 bomb squigs
fast-10 biker boys- nob-pk-boss pole
Heavy-9 flash gits- battlewagon
Heavy- battlewagon (tank bustas big mek go here)
Heavy- morkanought-kff-grot riggers
Revised slightly how's that look?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/08 19:05:13
Subject: [1850] - orks - trting to find a competetive list with what i have
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Screamin' Stormboy
Southern California
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I like it. I prefer the gorkanought for the rampage plus I suck at kff saves but that is just my preference.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/08 19:15:29
Subject: [1850] - orks - trting to find a competetive list with what i have
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Im bringing the mork to kff some boys
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/08 21:50:52
Subject: [1850] - orks - trting to find a competetive list with what i have
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Been Around the Block
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It's not a bad list, try to play-test it some times vs shooty armys and cc armies see how it runs.
I think if you're up against cc armies this list is quite solid. With your advantage being that your opponent will come toward you so your boys are likely to see action in round 2 or 3. Your disadvantage is that you're quite slow. A shooty army will focus on your bikes because that's the only "in your face" unit you have. After they have dealt with your bikes they will pick off units one by one (if they can resist the urge to shoot at that threatening looking but not so threatening being morkanaught).
Also, make sure that your opponent doesn't see the side of your battlewagen. AV 12 on an open topped vehicle doesn't last long.
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we woz build to fight, not to lissen to da warlord |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/08 22:07:24
Subject: [1850] - orks - trting to find a competetive list with what i have
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Duely noted sir, my teams leader is aware of my advantages and disadvantages so hopefully he will grt me in good match ups when he can, im not entirely concerned with getting the boys to action with how many objectives the atc runs, if they can get a charge then that's great but im more than happy to plop them Down on an objective
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