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So later this month is a 3 game local Tournament - flat maelstrom objectives. I have a fair bit of milage with Nids so I know what I'm doing but I also have good experience with Tau however I am rusty.

Now I have two lists, one Taudar and one Tyranids. So which one would you prefer to take and why? any opinions that would help me make my decision would be hugely appreciated!

Taudar

Farseer - Jetbike, stones
Farseer - Jetbike

Jetbikes x 3
Jetbikes x 3

Dire Avengers x5
Wave Serpant - scatter laser, holofields

Dire Avengers x5
Wave Serpant - scatter laser, holofields

Firebase Support Cadre
Broadsides - HYMP
Broadsides - Target lock, HYMP

Riptide - EWO,Stims, Ion, FB

370 pts to spare - so how do I spend them? (pts initially used for knight errant - comp allows knight((and only 1 knight)) as a third detachment )



Tyranids 1749

Flyrant - Devourers, electroshock grubs
Flyrant - Devourers, electroshock grubs
Flyrant - Devourers, electroshock grubs

Mucolid
Mucolid
Mucolid
Mucolid
Mucolid
Mucolid
Rippers x 3

Malanthrope

Hive Crone

Mawloc
Mawloc

DL Assasin brood
Deathleaper
Lictor
Lictor
Lictor
Lictor
Lictor

Cheers guys!

Well, I would play Tyranids...but I only play Tyranids.

Personally I would trim something and upgrade some Mucolids into Hormagaunts for Maelstrom...you get to re-roll IB, so they are less troublesome than usual. Lightning fast OS Troops are golden in maelstrom, which is why Jetbikes are so awesome. You give that up, but you dudes can kill Jetbikes with a little luck.

Personally I would run a traditional CAD so I could use OS Troops though....sorry not much help after all... my meds are making my loopy. While you give up OS, you do get a small swarm of Lictors, and that will do a huge amount of work for you.


Maybe drop the Crone, for two more Lictors? That would free up 55 points for other nice items like Fighter Ace, or Old Adversary...or adding some traditional Gribblies like DS Rippers. (Lose 3 Mucolids, add two Swarms of Tunneling Rippers?)

In any case Good luck, and good hunting!

I think both armies are viable.
An IK in the first army would be a good addon.

Tyranids is the only acceptable answer

Both lists should do well. Take the list your more comfortable with.

I think some Fire Dragons in a Serpent and Swooping Hawks would do you wonders for AV14 purposes but other than that it's solid. I personally would ditch FnP on the Riptide and try and get EWO on the Broadsides just for AA purposes

pinecone77 wrote:
Well, I would play Tyranids...but I only play Tyranids.

Personally I would trim something and upgrade some Mucolids into Hormagaunts for Maelstrom...you get to re-roll IB, so they are less troublesome than usual. Lightning fast OS Troops are golden in maelstrom, which is why Jetbikes are so awesome. You give that up, but you dudes can kill Jetbikes with a little luck.

Personally I would run a traditional CAD so I could use OS Troops though....sorry not much help after all... my meds are making my loopy. While you give up OS, you do get a small swarm of Lictors, and that will do a huge amount of work for you.


Maybe drop the Crone, for two more Lictors? That would free up 55 points for other nice items like Fighter Ace, or Old Adversary...or adding some traditional Gribblies like DS Rippers. (Lose 3 Mucolids, add two Swarms of Tunneling Rippers?)

In any case Good luck, and good hunting!

our OS troops aren't as strong as other though so I feel like it's best to not bother, compared to serpants, pod marines etc.

Fighter Ace sucks, every time i use it I get + 3 synapse and it drives me nuts! OA would be good on a melee flyrant but I don't have one of those either -) however I'd love to put one in!)

 Wilson wrote:

pinecone77 wrote:
Well, I would play Tyranids...but I only play Tyranids.

Personally I would trim something and upgrade some Mucolids into Hormagaunts for Maelstrom...you get to re-roll IB, so they are less troublesome than usual. Lightning fast OS Troops are golden in maelstrom, which is why Jetbikes are so awesome. You give that up, but you dudes can kill Jetbikes with a little luck.

Personally I would run a traditional CAD so I could use OS Troops though....sorry not much help after all... my meds are making my loopy. While you give up OS, you do get a small swarm of Lictors, and that will do a huge amount of work for you.


Maybe drop the Crone, for two more Lictors? That would free up 55 points for other nice items like Fighter Ace, or Old Adversary...or adding some traditional Gribblies like DS Rippers. (Lose 3 Mucolids, add two Swarms of Tunneling Rippers?)

In any case Good luck, and good hunting!

our OS troops aren't as strong as other though so I feel like it's best to not bother, compared to serpants, pod marines etc.

Fighter Ace sucks, every time i use it I get + 3 synapse and it drives me nuts! OA would be good on a melee flyrant but I don't have one of those either -) however I'd love to put one in!)

Yeah some of it is "style" I don't use, or compare our Troops to others, because I try to use them as part of a group that adds synergy of some sort. Compare x15 Hormies to a Wave Serpant, which is better? If you include cost it is not so clear.

Add in the 5 Avengers, the Dakkafex, and the Zoey, and/or Veno and it gets real foggy. I figure as well that contesting takes points from my foe, and only OS can contest a OS. I think that a Lictor swarm can give Wave Serpants a real scare. If you don't like the upgrades for a Tyrant, I would still suggest adding a couple of Swarms of Rippers for the mobility and stealth they bring. (but I would have them as OS, so that affects my valuation)

pinecone77 wrote:

 Wilson wrote:

pinecone77 wrote:
Well, I would play Tyranids...but I only play Tyranids.

Personally I would trim something and upgrade some Mucolids into Hormagaunts for Maelstrom...you get to re-roll IB, so they are less troublesome than usual. Lightning fast OS Troops are golden in maelstrom, which is why Jetbikes are so awesome. You give that up, but you dudes can kill Jetbikes with a little luck.

Personally I would run a traditional CAD so I could use OS Troops though....sorry not much help after all... my meds are making my loopy. While you give up OS, you do get a small swarm of Lictors, and that will do a huge amount of work for you.


Maybe drop the Crone, for two more Lictors? That would free up 55 points for other nice items like Fighter Ace, or Old Adversary...or adding some traditional Gribblies like DS Rippers. (Lose 3 Mucolids, add two Swarms of Tunneling Rippers?)

In any case Good luck, and good hunting!

our OS troops aren't as strong as other though so I feel like it's best to not bother, compared to serpants, pod marines etc.

Fighter Ace sucks, every time i use it I get + 3 synapse and it drives me nuts! OA would be good on a melee flyrant but I don't have one of those either -) however I'd love to put one in!)

Yeah some of it is "style" I don't use, or compare our Troops to others, because I try to use them as part of a group that adds synergy of some sort. Compare x15 Hormies to a Wave Serpant, which is better? If you include cost it is not so clear.

Add in the 5 Avengers, the Dakkafex, and the Zoey, and/or Veno and it gets real foggy. I figure as well that contesting takes points from my foe, and only OS can contest a OS. I think that a Lictor swarm can give Wave Serpants a real scare. If you don't like the upgrades for a Tyrant, I would still suggest adding a couple of Swarms of Rippers for the mobility and stealth they bring. (but I would have them as OS, so that affects my valuation)

Stealth?? Do rippers have stealth?

They are short, so they can hide. And Deep Striking is a form of stealth to my mind, nobody can shoot at a Deep Striker before it arrives.