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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine






Indeed, I think with any game system YMMV. It is just a case of getting out there and playing it once the free Warscrolls are out. Then either adopt the game or stick with your WHFB edition of choice or another system that does suit you.

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Ancient Chaos Terminator






Surfing the Tervigon Wave...on a baby.

The PDFs are up on the UK site folks.

It gets worse.

Lizardmen have Celestite weapons. And Stardrake shields.

This is sounding more and more 80s....


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Regular Dakkanaut




Canada

The Warscroll PDFs are up on the Canadian site too. If you go to a unit page in the store there is a link in the bottom right side to download the warscrolls for that race, or at least there is for Lizardmen.

Also, even though the Lizardmen are listed as fighting against chaos, they all seem to have the "Daemon" keyword for some reason...

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UK

What's the URL if you don't mind? Can't find them.

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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord






 DarkStarSabre wrote:
The PDFs are up on the UK site folks.

It gets worse.

Lizardmen have Celestite weapons. And Stardrake shields.

This is sounding more and more 80s....


Are you sure? I followed the link in the OP (from the WD pic) and all I get is a 404 page.


Games Workshop Delenda Est.

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If you break apart my or anyone else's posts line by line I will not read them. 
   
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Gun Mage





Here's the Lizardmen:
http://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Compendiums/warhammer-aos-lizardmen-en.pdf
   
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine






Also:

"The following do not have warscrolls. Instead, use the substitute warscrolls listed below."


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Ancient Chaos Terminator






Surfing the Tervigon Wave...on a baby.

 Grimtuff wrote:
 DarkStarSabre wrote:
The PDFs are up on the UK site folks.

It gets worse.

Lizardmen have Celestite weapons. And Stardrake shields.

This is sounding more and more 80s....


Are you sure? I followed the link in the OP (from the WD pic) and all I get is a 404 page.


Go to the GW site. Go to the Warhammer section. Select a unit. Click to download the rules.


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http://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Compendiums/warhammer-aos-warriors-of-chaos-en.pdf

11527pts Total (7400pts painted)

4980pts Total (4980pts painted)

3730 Total (210pts painted) 
   
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Ancient Chaos Terminator






Surfing the Tervigon Wave...on a baby.

Also, the races are all listed.

Aelf
Beastman
Daemon
Duardin
Grot
Human
Mortal
Mummy
Ogor
Orruk
Seraphon
Skaven
Skeleton
Sylvaneth
Troggoth
Vampire


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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine






Nice, each faction has a couple of battallions/formations as part of the rules.

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Vancouver, WA

 Azreal13 wrote:
It's reassuring, but still doesn't count for much without a way of putting down roughly equal armies.

In fact, it'll be even more heartbreaking if it plays well but nobody has a clue how to get two equal forces to show it.


It will probably come down to playing a bunch more games, and coming to a 'consensus' with your buddies. I feel confident that this could be done with a bit of trial and error. Heck, I could see a thread here popping up in the future where troops of different factions are compared and what not. A sort of 'community' effort to so to speak.

Pick-up games though? A lot more unpredictable animal, unfortunately.

"Wheels within wheels, in a spiral array, a pattern so grand and complex.
Time after time we lose sight of the way, our causes can't see their effects."

 
   
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Heroic Senior Officer




New Zealand

"Scrapped" models condensed into other entries. Most make sense I suppose.

Unit Warscroll
Ancient Stegadon. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Stegadon
Lord Mazdamundi. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Engine of the Gods
Saurus Oldblood on Carnosaur. . . . . . . . . . . . . .Scar-Veteran on Carnosaur
Saurus Scar-Veteran. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Saurus Oldblood
Saurus Scar-Veteran on Cold One. . . . . . . . . . . Saurus Oldblood on Cold One
Skink Chief on Ancient Stegadon. . . . . . . . . . . . Stegadon
Skink Chief on Ripperdactyl. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ripperdactyl Alpha
(see Ripperdactyl Riders warscroll)
Skink Chief on Stegadon. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Stegadon
Skink Chief on Terradon. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Master of the Skies
(see Terradon Riders warscroll)
Skink Chief with Battle Standard. . . . . . . . . . . . Skink Chief
Skink Cohort. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Skinks and Kroxigor warscrolls
Skink Priest on Ancient Stegadon. . . . . . . . . . . .Engine of the Gods
Skink Skirmishers. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Skinks
Slann Mage-Priest with Battle Standard. . . . . . Slann Mage-Priest
Tehenhauin on Ancient Stegadon. . . . . . . . . . . . Engine of the Gods
Tiktaq’to. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Master of the Skies
(see Terradon Riders warscroll)
   
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Ancient Chaos Terminator






Surfing the Tervigon Wave...on a baby.

Bwahaha. Saurus, Skinks and Kroxigor are now Daemons.

Wat.


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Sorry, that is only one of the four .pdfs...

... Is it awful that some of the rules sound super fun? I want to use my Warhammer Giant just for things like "Timber!!!"

Also, "Monster" and "Hero" keywords are used wherever relevant, so I really do think us making a "standard" of say...

-1 Hero Warscroll
-1 Monster Warscroll
- 3 any regular Warscroll
- 100 model cap
- No unit can have more than 20 wounds worth of models

... seems increasingly viable.

11527pts Total (7400pts painted)

4980pts Total (4980pts painted)

3730 Total (210pts painted) 
   
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UK

 DarkStarSabre wrote:
Also, the races are all listed.

Aelf
Beastman
Daemon
Duardin
Grot
Human
Mortal
Mummy
Ogor
Orruk
Seraphon
Skaven
Skeleton
Sylvaneth
Troggoth
Vampire


No nigmos confirmed then </3>

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Heroic Senior Officer




New Zealand

Looks like Lizard Swarms got good though, auto kill anything on a 6 and heal D3 wounds on a hero with no penalty.
   
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Violent Enforcer





Skelleftea, Sweden

I am all for a simple (fast) rules set - but the AoS one seems unfinished/untested (much like GW's Triumph and Treachery).

Sudden Death is boring, deciding victories on model count alone gives a massive bonus to elite (SM) forces, missile targeting (LOS through other units) needs clarification and so does movement (measure up and down if climbing walls?), no way (apart from Armour Save) to defend oneself in CC, piling in to CC weapon range results in models ending un in a pile, etc.

Also the measuring from the tip of the model combined with no facing and no part of the model being allowed to move more than the Move results in very strange movement. Such as when my Cold One Knights had enemies behind them and had to move+charge backwards into CC (attacking with the tip of their tails) in order to reach the enemy...

Needs some tweaking (and points).
   
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It certainly is possible that we could create some way of balancing this. It's insane that we have to, though. These rules are literally unfinished.
   
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Foxy Wildborne







http://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Compendiums/warhammer-aos-ogre-kingdoms-en.pdf

http://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Compendiums/warhammer-aos-orcs-and-goblins-en.pdf




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http://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Compendiums/warhammer-aos-vampire-counts-en.pdf

http://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Compendiums/warhammer-aos-tomb-kings-en.pdf


Automatically Appended Next Post:
http://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Compendiums/warhammer-aos-daemons-of-chaos-en.pdf

http://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Compendiums/warhammer-aos-high-elves-en.pdf

http://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Compendiums/warhammer-aos-the-empire-en.pdf

http://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Compendiums/warhammer-aos-lizardmen-en.pdf

http://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Compendiums/warhammer-aos-bretonnia-en.pdf

http://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Compendiums/warhammer-aos-wood-elves-en.pdf

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Liche Priest Hierophant







I'm kinda confused with magic and the like...

The Vampire Counts and Tomb Kings PDFs have certain units (skeleton warriors, morghasts, etc.) that say Death Wizards also know the "Summon ___" spell.

Do I have to have a unit of skeletons/morghasts/etc. for them to know that spell, or do they know it automatically?
   
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UK

 kendoka wrote:
I am all for a simple (fast) rules set - but the AoS one seems unfinished/untested (much like GW's Triumph and Treachery).

Sudden Death is boring, deciding victories on model count alone gives a massive bonus to elite (SM) forces


Sudden death is a bit more nuanced than that but it does still sound rushed - if you're outnumbered at deployment you get to choose a special objective that if you achieve it, you win a major victory. Low model count armies are more likely to have shock troops / strong units that are going to be good at achieving that objective, so it seems likely you'll get it fairly often. It will definitely have an effect on army composition though - I guess you'll want multiple characters so you have some choice over which to make the assassination target, a strong resilient unit you can make the unit target, etc, if you're playing a high model count army. If it's a race to the bottom to avoid giving the other guy the objective then that's interesting in itself, but it's going to be a bit of a pain generally...

Had a look at some warscrolls and I'm pleased to see some flavour of the old army books is retained instead of a flat list of unit cards. Honestly this scroll format is great for me, and I'm starting to get used to the weird fluff, I just wish there were some way of balancing the fether.

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US site has the PDF available listed under each unit. So far only the Dark Elf one is broken, it goes to daemons of chaos for some reason.

Inquisitor Jex wrote:
Yeah, telling people how this and that is 'garbage' and they should just throw their minis into the trash as they're not as efficient as XYZ.

 Peregrine wrote:
So the solution is to lie and pretend that certain options are effective so people will feel better?
 
   
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http://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Compendiums/warhammer-aos-warriors-of-chaos-en.pdf

http://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Compendiums/warhammer-aos-skaven-en.pdf

http://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Compendiums/warhammer-aos-beastmen-en.pdf

http://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Compendiums/warhammer-aos-daemons-of-chaos-en.pdf

That should be everything.

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Camas, WA

So definitely no points in Warscrolls. Here's to hope for an additional later book.

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Vancouver, WA

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
Sorry, that is only one of the four .pdfs...

... Is it awful that some of the rules sound super fun? I want to use my Warhammer Giant just for things like "Timber!!!"

Also, "Monster" and "Hero" keywords are used wherever relevant, so I really do think us making a "standard" of say...

-1 Hero Warscroll
-1 Monster Warscroll
- 3 any regular Warscroll
- 100 model cap
- No unit can have more than 20 wounds worth of models

... seems increasingly viable.


Where are you seeing these limitations?

Because I see some of the Warscrolls that -start- with 20 wounds worth of models, and says you can have more....?

-confuzzled-

"Wheels within wheels, in a spiral array, a pattern so grand and complex.
Time after time we lose sight of the way, our causes can't see their effects."

 
   
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Foxy Wildborne







Dark Elves, not too hard to get by just changing the URL

http://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Compendiums/warhammer-aos-dark-elves-en.pdf

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Gun Mage





 Mort wrote:
NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
Sorry, that is only one of the four .pdfs...

... Is it awful that some of the rules sound super fun? I want to use my Warhammer Giant just for things like "Timber!!!"

Also, "Monster" and "Hero" keywords are used wherever relevant, so I really do think us making a "standard" of say...

-1 Hero Warscroll
-1 Monster Warscroll
- 3 any regular Warscroll
- 100 model cap
- No unit can have more than 20 wounds worth of models

... seems increasingly viable.


Where are you seeing these limitations?

Because I see some of the Warscrolls that -start- with 20 wounds worth of models, and says you can have more....?

-confuzzled-

He's making it up as an example of trying to balance the game.
   
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UK

 pretre wrote:
So definitely no points in Warscrolls. Here's to hope for an additional later book.


Or, since they're PDFs, they can simply update them. Could happen.

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