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Argonak, there is a seperate die for anti-squadron so most ships only get 1-2 dice for anti-squadron work, not the main attack dice, those are anti-ship. So it works out. Especially since you can only kill a fighter or two at most with any die AND fighters keep all their firepower until the entire flight is gone so one fighter does as much as 5.

 Mike1975 wrote:
Argonak, there is a seperate die for anti-squadron so most ships only get 1-2 dice for anti-squadron work, not the main attack dice, those are anti-ship. So it works out. Especially since you can only kill a fighter or two at most with any die AND fighters keep all their firepower until the entire flight is gone so one fighter does as much as 5.

The issue is that when you shoot at squadrons you attack every squadron in the arc. So if you go from lots of fighters spread out everywhere to one giant clump you're suddenly getting a lot more attacks. Think of it as 40k template weapons: anything that removes or hinders the ability to spread out models makes template weapons a lot more effective. So now something that's supposed to be about clarity and not bumping models potentially has major balance effects.

Yeah those markers dont look that useful. Im imagining more of a ring, say 5mm wide, with a hole in the middle into which you can fit the flight stand. If you have to toggle the stand or rotate the HP dial you just lift it out of the ring, do what you have to do, and place it back in. No having to worry about shifting its position around because the ring will show you exactly where it was positioned, and if made from the proper materials it shouldnt slide out of place if bumped.

The only downside is that it will cause issues with b2b placement, but no big deal there as its not a real part of the game anyway, and if you need to put it in that close you can just remove the ring.

I will admit after reading this was the most clumsy thing I noticed. As I have watched games people literally have just been picking up the fighter, doing any adjustments and then just putting them back down. Really all you need is a marker that you can fit the fighter back into like was mentioned above. Almost like marking a golf ball when you pick it up. You could also just keep a spreadsheet off to the side of the table and mark as you activate / take damage / shoot, etc.

 Matt1785 wrote:
Almost like marking a golf ball when you pick it up.

Something like THIS.

That works. Anything with an accurate curve to mark the fighter locations. Only problem is when you start bunching I suppose.

What would be mildly clever in that arena would be an "underbase" that allows you to pick up the stand by the stem and just leaves the insert underneath on the table. Put a non-slip back on the bottom and you have a decent little add-on.

Is that not what I just said?

Not really; you're looking at a ring around the base with a hollow middle from your post or at least that how it reads to me. I'm looking at something that slots into the hollow underneath the fighter base but is flush to the dimensions of the base with a raised inner lip to catch on and stay with the base as it's being moved. Your idea makes the base minutely fatter while mine would make it minutely taller.

Main problem with either is if you pick up the fighters rather than sliding them down the speed ruler you might leave these things behind accidentally. Not a huge problem, but it does add to the clutter which goes back to "how major of a problem is this?"

OHHHHHHH, now I get it. Hmm, that would be a slightly more complex construction then just cutting a ring