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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/07 16:42:52
Subject: Why they heck cant the LSS carry Marines?
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Omnipotent Necron Overlord
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How sick would it be if you could get marines into LSS. Man that would be AWESOME. Scouts and marines are basically the same size - we know that marines can pilot the thing because they fly regular land speeders.
Vanguard vets would become instantly viable.
Wed actually get some decent firepower out of our transports with open topped plus a weapon mount, plus fast vehicle so can actually move and shoot.
Cheap Assault vehicle for expensive marines (this has got to exist at some point).
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If we fail to anticipate the unforeseen or expect the unexpected in a universe of infinite possibilities, we may find ourselves at the mercy of anyone or anything that cannot be programmed, categorized or easily referenced.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/07 17:53:52
Subject: Re:Why they heck cant the LSS carry Marines?
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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the seats aren't big eneugh to carry guys wearing full power armor?
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Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/07 18:07:44
Subject: Why they heck cant the LSS carry Marines?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I believe that in the Deathwatch RPG the LSS can only carry four PCs- presumably accounting for the fact that they're all most likely wearing power armor.
So presumably the only reason it fits "only scouts" is because minimum squad size is determined to be 5 Marines, and 5 PA-wearing Marines don't actually fit in a LSS.
OTOH I think it'd be perfectly acceptable to throw all that away and let Marine infantry take LSS.
Of course, I also think that Razorbacks are overpriced for what they offer and the simplest fix is to make them AV12 front armor, so what do I know?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/07 18:35:53
Subject: Why they heck cant the LSS carry Marines?
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Tissue paper-only tanks for the Emprah's finest! Razorbacks are absolutely overcosted, but they're not getting a fix.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/04/07 18:36:16
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/07 18:51:09
Subject: Why they heck cant the LSS carry Marines?
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Because Tactical squads operate in 10s (5s?? its been a while edit fluff wise) And unless we turn the LSS into a stretch limo its not going to fit em all in there.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/04/07 18:51:27
Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/08 19:19:37
Subject: Re:Why they heck cant the LSS carry Marines?
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Lesser Daemon of Chaos
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Pretty much this, fluffwise the initiate scout marines are smaller/less equipped then their full fledged PA brothers. For one, the scouts lack the large powerplants required on a space marines back.
Tabletop, SM have a lot of options and variety for transporting their troops as it is, not even counting FW. I can't imagine they need any more: rhino, razorback, pods, storm raven, land raider (+ variants).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/08 19:40:48
Subject: Why they heck cant the LSS carry Marines?
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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As a DA player, I don't even get a LSS.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/09 16:51:46
Subject: Why they heck cant the LSS carry Marines?
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Omnipotent Necron Overlord
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Desubot wrote:Because Tactical squads operate in 10s (5s?? its been a while edit fluff wise)
And unless we turn the LSS into a stretch limo its not going to fit em all in there.
A unit of 5 marines is called a combat squad. Marines chapters function a lot like roman legions - being able to break down into small groups during battle was essential to roman tactics - I think that's why we have the combat squad rule in C: SM. So I don't think it's because a squad of 5 marines is unnatural. I just see the LSS and have to ask myself. Why can't slight modifications be made to make marines able passengers. Even if it's just 3 or 4! I could stick an honor gard in there with a captain and go mess some stuff up. It would be real fun - to have a viable assault vehicle with marines - cause everything about their stat-line suggests I should be in assault with them and the imperium seems to be running short on LR's and they can't have many rhinos left - they've all been destroyed!
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If we fail to anticipate the unforeseen or expect the unexpected in a universe of infinite possibilities, we may find ourselves at the mercy of anyone or anything that cannot be programmed, categorized or easily referenced.
- Fox Mulder |
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