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Rampaging Khorne Dreadnought






I don't personally consider the Goredrinker relic to be all that amazing for a lord. The only interesting part being rampage when taken over a powerfist/chainfist except of course if taken on a demon prince.
However, I also noticed how Blood feast never actually says that the buffs are attacks from the relic.. It always refers to the bearer.

So does that mean I could buy Goredrinker and get a totally pimped out power claw/ axe of Khorne/*insert any melee*?

An axe of Khorne would then take 1 kill to become +1 STR and so on. I doubt that's intended, but then you never know. It's pretty expensive and somewhat slow but I don't see an issue when using RAW.

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You appear to be correct.. although expect an argument every time you try to pull it.

I'm not sure it's worth the points spend ... But yeah good catch.

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I believe you only get to use a weapon's special rules when attacking with that weapon, though. Yes, Blood Feast grants bonuses to the bearer, but if you're not attacking with Goredrinker, you don't get Blood Feast, any more than you get Shred when not attacking with a lightning claw.

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ah yeah, good point. so you could stack up buffs with goredrinker, and then switch to another weapon.

Its not a specialist weapon, so my first choices are out, Maybe a powersword or chainaxe.


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You don't have to use the Artefact to get the S buffs.

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locarno24 wrote:
I believe you only get to use a weapon's special rules when attacking with that weapon, though. Yes, Blood Feast grants bonuses to the bearer, but if you're not attacking with Goredrinker, you don't get Blood Feast, any more than you get Shred when not attacking with a lightning claw.


I'm not sure about that. Let's just assume you got the buffs fro killing with goredrinker. At that point bloodfeast grants you those buffs at the start of the turn. In that way I think it's pretty clear that you could switch to another weapon and still get the buff.
The part I'm not sure about is, whether or not you actually need to use blood drinker to get the buffs in the first place. The way it's written seems to indicate that any melee attack will do and fluff wise it would still make sense to me. It's going to drink the blood regardless from whence it flows.

But blood feast is part of the profile of the weapon, which also indicates that your activate bloodfeast only when using it. The passive part triggering at the start rather than per attack is kinda making me swing in the favour of counting any melee attacks but I really can't decide on this one
   
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Tunneling Trygon






This is similar to the Harlequin weapon debate but a bit more directly answered by precedent. Eldrad's Staff of Ulthamar is a weapon with a weapon profile and an effect that deals with the Psychic Phase. Eldrad could never use the weapon in a game and would you say he doesn't have access to the Spiritlink ability? As an Artifact, and with this precedent, I would say the power is always in effect, no matter the weapon used. Also want to say that this is because it's an Artifact, not just plain Wargear.
   
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Rampaging Khorne Dreadnought






Hmm, thanks for that. Didn't know about that. In that case I agree that it should be always in effect.
   
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Agile Revenant Titan






For me, precedent makes no difference here. I actually think it's pretty clear cut. Look at the blood feast wording:

"keep a count of all unsaved wounds caused by the bearers melee attacks. At the start of each of your turn, consult the table below to see what effects Goredrinker will have on its bearer. These effects are cumulative"

The important part is "... All unsaved wounds caused by the bearers melee attacks..." there is no restriction on which weapon must cause these attacks. All melee attacks count towards, and so that means the attacks with any weapons. Equally the wording towards the end States it affects the bearer and not the weapon. So I personally think our initial interpretation is the correct one.

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