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I was just wondering, with the release of the Skitarii (which are classed as part of the Imperial faction), would there be a way to Ally them with my 30k Taghmata?
If so, how?

There are not any official rules for allying a 30k army and a 40k army. (Except daemons , who are kinda timeless ), and there probably won't be.

If you want to ally them , just do it.

I was hoping there would be some kinda of written rule somewhere to be honest. I'll likely do it anyway, though, unless anyone can give a reason as to why not.

Thanks for the reply

From memory, the 30K books have something along the lines of "feel free to use Aliens in 30K" like Eldar, Orks, from 40K. It might be a stretch to include Skitarii here, but why not?

As for using 30k Taghmata in a game of 40K with Skitarii, you might find more opposition there with the Rules, but in a friendly game, again: Why not?

Which book does it say that in? I don't normally have an issue running 30k stuff against 40k stuff at my club, so I can't see it being much of a problem.

I'm just trying to figure out how best to set them up with Skitarii, considering the 30k allies matrix.

 Vallhemn wrote:
Which book does it say that in? I don't normally have an issue running 30k stuff against 40k stuff at my club, so I can't see it being much of a problem.

I'm just trying to figure out how best to set them up with Skitarii, considering the 30k allies matrix.

Which part though?

Playing a 30K game or a 40K game?

If you're playing a 30K game with 40K armies, it'll be in the HH books somewhere. [Edit]: In the link below actually:
"Designer’s Note: So if, for example, you wanted to play a battle representing a narrative where the Sons of Horus Legion fought Orks or Eldar during the Great Crusade, you could quite easily use those xenos forces’ Warhammer 40,000 Codexes (possibly house-ruled to accommodate larger squads) to proxy for their Heresy-era counterparts. In this case, however, both sides should be using the Age of Darkness Force Organisation chart, with the army’s own Apocalypse level units and flyers available as Lords of War entries following the guidelines found on page184 of Betrayal"

As for playing a 40K game with 30K armies:
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/B/Betrayal_FAQ_Errata_v.2.pdf

Basically I'm wanting to Ally in some Skitarii with my Primary detachment of Taghmata for use in 40k (as that's whats primarily played with in my club).

The issues arise due to the different Allies charts. Obviously fighting against people isn't a problem, but fighting with someone as allies in your army doesn't make much sense, as there is no matrix for Xenos, nor
any of the newly released imperial stuff.

And that FW Pdf is 2 years old, So while it does kind of answer the question, it also raises new ones. Specifically this bit:

"In terms of using Lords of War and the Primarchs, however, these are definitely not intended to be
used in standard Warhammer 40,000 games, but only in games where both sides use the Age of
Darkness Force Organisation chart, and the specific provisions within, and in games of 2,000 points
or greater. "

As that was written way before LOWs became standard in 40k games, and a fair few rules state that the LOW choices can also be used in standard games of 40k now (like the Knight Castigator, for example)

So I don't really know how helpful that is. :(

That said, the fact that it does state that HH can be used with 40k does mean I can fiddle about with some house rules or something and try something out.

Of course, you can House-rule using some 30K models and armies (including Primarchs) into 40K. But as that PdF says:

"While Forge World’s on-going range of Horus Heresy books and their game content are all designed to use and be compatible with the Warhammer 0,000 rules, they have been fine-tuned and focused on playing battles in the milieu of the Horus Heresy rather than in conjunction with the Codexes representing warfare in the 41stMillennium, and this will remain the case." = They are compatible, but not recommended for 40K.

That's how i would read it. If playing a game of 40K at your local club and the new guy asks for a game, i would recommend that you do not show up with a 30K army and say "this is completely legal, play me" (the army list you might be building now).

If you ask someone who knows you own FW HH stuff for a 40K game with your 30K army, as always they can refuse a game but i would not see any issue (just as someone i know often asks if he can bring his Reaver Titan). The answer is usually about 50/50 Yes or No. Just be ready for that

Yeah, I'm definitely ready for the occasional 'No'.

What surprises me nowadays though is there's so much filth one can bring to 40k, most of the time my taghmata list starts on the back foot without me having a choice!

I always make sure the lists I run are fun to play against and with, as I'm much more interested in playng a game for fun rather than just powerhousing, especially against a new addition to the club.

This raises are rather interesting topic though -
Would I rather run with a HH Taghmata list and have an elite force that mostly starts on the back foot against 40k armies, or show up with an Inquisition Jokearo spam list that's completely legal in 40k from the off and has the capability of 47 Lascannon shots on the first turn?
Not to mention adding in void shields for even more sillyness.

Some of the Primarchs don't even seem that crazy in comparison with some of the 'legal' stuff you can run. O_o

I've not had much experience playing against 30K armies with 40K ones or know a lot of people who have....

But by the looks of it here on Dakka, either the 30K army is over-powered, or it just cant keep up and will usually loose. Probably linked to how the lists and mechanics might vary a bit more.

So to answer your original question: Only the document I linked will cover "what Rules exist". But even those are rather vague.

You seem to know what you're doing in your local area so there not much more that can be answered, unless I missed a RaW somewhere? There could be a formulation of some of the 40K rules to deny the use of 30K armies, but i don't think anyone would bother..... It's not like you're asking "Can i play Fulgrim at my next 40K tournament?"....

Lol, very true!
I suppose I was just wondering how I'd run them allies wise, but I suppose house ruled as battle brothers is the logical step, considering they are both mechnicum and part of the Imperium (to a degree).

And yeah, my experience of the 30k universe so far has been interesting. I've found that most of the lists aren't massively OP in comparison to some of the filth that can be taken in ordinary games - if anything, they seem more balanced.

But thanks for your feedback. It's at least helpful to know there's a bit of written ruling somewhere about the nature of 30k in 40k.