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I'm curious to see how much this will cost and how many models it will have. I find the $20 and up price point for single human sized monopose plastic figs ridiculous and if this $75+ boxed game only has the four assasins (both just guesses) then it'll just be a footnote for me personally.

 warboss wrote:
I'm curious to see how much this will cost and how many models it will have. I find the $20 and up price point for single human sized monopose plastic figs ridiculous and if this $75+ boxed game only has the four assasins (both just guesses) then it'll just be a footnote for me personally.

Yeah, it amazes me that Games Workshop sells any character models at those price points.


Especially given how easy it is to kitbash characters for most factions (other than Eldar, but nobody likes those guys anyway).

That said, their self-contained board games are usually a decent deal. They're pricey, but you get a decent amount of stuff in them.

Here's hoping it's not limited to 100 copies worldwide or some crap like that.

Will be curious to see if/when they release a new Assassins codex (they have a hardback for two units in Knights so I don't see why they wouldn't do a hardback for four units).

You need someone you will assassinate so there must be villains in this box. Space Hulk, which Atia on B&C refers to when describing this new game, had

11 Terminators + 1 Terminator Librarian (who is the young Mephiston of the Blood Angels)
1 Throne, probe vehicle, a BA grail - which were mission objectives produced in plastic
22 Genestealers in various poses and on pretty cool bases
1 Broodlord on a scenic base - huge model

Plus lots of tunnels and rooms, doors, markers and the Space Marine player's PDA made from cardboard.

The lady who did the Mantic board game tiles was hired by Games Workshop in 2013. See

https://uk.linkedin.com/pub/tears-of-envy/25/589/ab0

There are so many possibilities to create rooms with card board, and adding features like interior, Assassination targets (character models) and enemy troopers (guards) in plastic for such a game. I had a look through the Necromunda and Confrontation books and WDs recently and there is lots of stuff they could just put into card and miniature form for this game.





With the AdMech Skitarii miniatures resembling (at least style-wise) the John Blanche artworks of old and new, imagine how these miniatures could turn out to look like

I try to be careful to not switch into full mode already but the possibilities for such a game are h-u-g-e.

75 GPB like Space Hulk sounds about what the rumors say. The Assassin models themselves will be sold separately after the game is gone according to Hastings. Those will probably end up being pretty expensive...

If the game has loads of cool enemy characters and mooks on top of the four Assassins...well, I was going to say "I'll buy it", but it's probably more accurate to say "I'll try to buy it but find the GW site overloaded by ebay-skelping scum and be disappointed".

If it's just the four Assasins; meh, I'm only really excited to see the new Culexus anyway, so I'll just wait for the clampack of that to show up.

Death to ebay scalpers.

Warhams-77 wrote:
You need someone you will assassinate so there must be villains in this box. Space Hulk, which Atia on B&C refers to when describing this new game, had

*SNIP*

75 GPB like Space Hulk sounds about what the rumors say. The Assassin models themselves will be sold separately after the game is gone according to Hastings. Those will probably end up being pretty expensive...

I agree that previous board games were a value (especially Space Hulk... I made a Deathwing army out of it when it came out the first time!). Unfortunately, GW has been doing things differently in the past year that doesn't mesh with their previous ever shrinking value. They never previously invalidated editions of games and codex books in two years and now they do. They never sold plastic 28mm human sized monopose characters with little to no options for up to $30 (if not more) and now they do. They didn't used to sell dozens of little DLC or split off content from codex armies to justify selling yet another $40 book with only a couple pages of actual rules and now they do. I certainly hope that the boxed assassin game will be a good value but I just can't put much faith behind that unfortunately given what GW currently does.

They also reprinted Space Hulk last year, which most people see as terrific value. So releasing good value board games is totally in their modern MO.

 warboss wrote:

I agree that previous board games were a value (especially Space Hulk... I made a Deathwing army out of it when it came out the first time!). Unfortunately, GW has been doing things differently in the past year that doesn't mesh with their previous ever shrinking value. They never previously invalidated editions of games and codex books in two years and now they do.

Just have to point out that one item. GW has done that in the past. The jump with WHFB from 5th to 6th edition and 40k from 2nd to 3rd. Vampire Counts and Sisters of Battle saw less than a year with their books before the new editions made them and every other book obsolete. Ironically what would be considered a massive FU to their customer base is regarded as the beginning of the Golden Ages for those games.

Thanks for the update. I don't play WHFB and I got into 40k because of the 3rd edition release (didn't like 2nd) so wasn't aware of the previous douchebaggery in Nottingham.

 warboss wrote:
Thanks for the update. I don't play WHFB and I got into 40k because of the 3rd edition release (didn't like 2nd) so wasn't aware of the previous douchebaggery in Nottingham.

And that period is looked back at fondly. Don't forget the WHFB and 40k annuals. You had to buy them to get erratas and new rules. The armies they printed in there army updates for Lizardmen and Wood Elves and replaced them with official books a year or two later.

 warboss wrote:
Thanks for the update. I don't play WHFB and I got into 40k because of the 3rd edition release (didn't like 2nd) so wasn't aware of the previous douchebaggery in Nottingham.

2nd had its problems but it's still superior in many ways. The box set was simply fantastic. And although the figures are better now I do miss the black codex and Codex imperialis. As well as the wargear book, and the Older Codexes had much nicer fluff.

I guess this means there's that much more hope for 40k then, looking at some of the silliness of the past couple of years.

I am going to laugh heartily with disgust if this boardgame is just an evolved money eater. Already content with the wallet eating the rest of 40k does with me.

 silent25 wrote:
And that period is looked back at fondly. Don't forget the WHFB and 40k annuals. You had to buy them to get erratas and new rules.

The errata was downloadable from the GW website, and the rest of the content in the annuals was just compiled from White Dwarf articles. And a lot of that was also available for free download.

Yeah, I'd much rather $30 or w/e once a year, WD having worthwhile content, and things eventually being free downloads, over the current model of tiny codex expansions that cost a proportional ton because they cram them with padding.

 silent25 wrote:

 warboss wrote:

I agree that previous board games were a value (especially Space Hulk... I made a Deathwing army out of it when it came out the first time!). Unfortunately, GW has been doing things differently in the past year that doesn't mesh with their previous ever shrinking value. They never previously invalidated editions of games and codex books in two years and now they do.

Just have to point out that one item. GW has done that in the past. The jump with WHFB from 5th to 6th edition and 40k from 2nd to 3rd. Vampire Counts and Sisters of Battle saw less than a year with their books before the new editions made them and every other book obsolete. Ironically what would be considered a massive FU to their customer base is regarded as the beginning of the Golden Ages for those games.

SoB were a codex for about 7 months. I remember they sold really well.

However who took over then obviously didn't like them and Squats. I honestly dont care for Jervis's Backpedaling on the subject of squats You could have made them awesome, you just didn't care. And from what I know it was NOTHING to do with sales or popularity at least according to mail order in the UK at that time. And one final thing if they were so unliked why do people ask about them in every event GW have Designers / Studio members at?

The change from 2nd to 3rd was vast, not like now where we might get an allies chart or the odd additional or subtracted rule or two, or even unbound armies ( odd but still). The basics are the same ap weapons ignore certain Armour etc etc. I play second still and I've tried upto 6th and just like the rules better.

Remember when Orks used Bolters?, okay fine I like that Orks have their own weaponry but the army drastically changed. It was the army that was fun to a very more dangerous and dark tone that required completely new tactics. It is GW's game and they can do what they want to it but don't expect people to like it.

Orks had comparable ws and bs to humans, they still have the ws as far as I remember.

I'll not argue the figures are better now. However Personally when they removed metal, and stopped doing Blisters of special weapons and characters, or command for fantasy & additional troops for both.

GW basically went buy a whole box for 1 thing. That is what we have that is what people are supporting when they defend the company now. GW are a company and should make money, but what they shouldn't do if they want to survive long term is ignore their core fan base.

GW are rapidly pricing themselves out of the market. Also note when there's a mistcast or a problem with a box that a staff member doesn't want to change for whatever reason there quick to say Citadel are responsible contact mail order.

I've never ever been forced to give copies of my bank statements to prove I bought something to any other company than GW.

Back to the topic?

Atia on B&C posted another hint:

new plastic Assassins vs Chaos stuff

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303600-rumours-assassins-standalone-boxed-game-next-week/page-3#entry4012747

And the aforementioned teaser-video on the GW blog should be online within the next 18 hours - they are usually released around 9:00 GMT

BoLS said various non-Imperial opponents (for what it's worth).

via Bird in the Trees 4-18-2015

4 Assassin models in the box, one for each temple.
Various non-imperial opposition models.
A board game in the general style of Space Hulk

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2015/04/40k-rumors-its-assassins.html

It says " chaos stuff" pity they could have bunged in a Renagade tech priest then it be an auto buy for me.

Cydonian Sister mech assassin?

But hope we see pictures

Assasins boardgame sounds reaaly intresting to me.

But i'm more curious about the antagonist minkiatures. Chaos cultist? psykers ? Mutants ?
Since they will be part of the general 40k range, i suppose they all have codex enrty.

Can't wait for first pics.

 insaniak wrote:

 silent25 wrote:
And that period is looked back at fondly. Don't forget the WHFB and 40k annuals. You had to buy them to get erratas and new rules.

The errata was downloadable from the GW website, and the rest of the content in the annuals was just compiled from White Dwarf articles. And a lot of that was also available for free download.

Not everything in the Annuals was reprints. There was a good chunk of new material as well. Also, not all the material became available for download till a couple years later.

*edit*

On topic: Hoping this game is good. Dreadfleet could have been a good game and I wasn't opposed to GW doing something outside their wheelhouse, but the event deck ruined the game with the GW patented "Random Crap".

eflix29 wrote:
Assasins boardgame sounds reaaly intresting to me.

But i'm more curious about the antagonist minkiatures. Chaos cultist? psykers ? Mutants ?
Since they will be part of the general 40k range, i suppose they all have codex enrty.

Can't wait for first pics.

I actually hope that they use the opportunity to come up with people like a Corrupt Judge, Planetary Governor, Rogue Psyker and others

I'd buy it just for them. But most likely it will probably be a CSM sorcerer, Lord and maybe the Dark Chaplain (name escapes me ) or just grunts ( chosen from box set?)

migooo wrote:

eflix29 wrote:
Assasins boardgame sounds reaaly intresting to me.

But i'm more curious about the antagonist minkiatures. Chaos cultist? psykers ? Mutants ?
Since they will be part of the general 40k range, i suppose they all have codex enrty.

Can't wait for first pics.

I actually hope that they use the opportunity to come up with people like a Corrupt Judge, Planetary Governor, Rogue Psyker and others

I'd buy it just for them. But most likely it will probably be a CSM sorcerer, Lord and maybe the Dark Chaplain (name escapes me ) or just grunts ( chosen from box set?)

To be honest, if the sculpts are SH quality and under model count is similar then I'd be perfectly happy with some New-style CSM commanders, marines and cultists as the op-force. Obviously it wouldn't be quite as cool as a game with multiple smaller factions (ten or so minis each for Chaos, Stealer cult and Rogue Trader/renegade governor-led rebels would be perfect!), but I won't say no to more CSM in the newer style.

eflix29 wrote:
Assasins boardgame sounds reaaly intresting to me.

But i'm more curious about the antagonist minkiatures. Chaos cultist? psykers ? Mutants ?
Since they will be part of the general 40k range, i suppose they all have codex enrty.

Can't wait for first pics.

The only mention of things becoming part of the general 40k range is the Assassins themselves, at least as far as I have been able to figure out from the text.

Damn, im so pumped for this. And please, let it have a corrupted governor

Wonderwolf wrote:
BoLS said various non-Imperial opponents (for what it's worth).

via Bird in the Trees 4-18-2015

4 Assassin models in the box, one for each temple.
Various non-imperial opposition models.
A board game in the general style of Space Hulk

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2015/04/40k-rumors-its-assassins.html

Vela jumps in after everyone else with the obvious. :(

Which makes me hope for the aforementioned stuff.

Sounds like it is pretty much confirmed despite him so...

 streetsamurai wrote:
Damn, im so pumped for this. And please, let it have a corrup governor

I actually hope this even if it's just two corrupt "imperial " figures

Hmm, I really hope they'll be making models for all six Temples! I mean, with GW making models for the Adeptus Mechanicus, Harlequins and maybe even Genestealers, the notion of the Vanus and Venenum Temples getting models might not be that far-fetched...