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Hmmm. I am tempted.

Do we have confirmation of the UK price?

I think the crunch issue for me is the game mechanics, judging from what I've read in this thread it's a coop game, which sounds cool but I want to know more about how the NPCs work and interact. Jt would make more sense for one player to be the Chaos dudes surely otherwise I can't see much repeat playability...

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I guess I could get an Eversor or one of each to go with my Mechanicus ( skitarii) army. But only when there out by themselves. I'm not keen on the jumpy jump poses

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
We've seen one picture. How can anyone be calling it "rubbish" or a "blatant money grab"?

That was my thought.

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Wow, I really like the callidus and eversor from that one cover shot. I need another angle on the other two although I am concerned with why the collexus head got even larger lol

Seriously that Eversor running on that quarter pipe is nasty!

   
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 pretre wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
We've seen one picture. How can anyone be calling it "rubbish" or a "blatant money grab"?

That was my thought.


Cause it's blatant loathing of GW regardless of what they release lol. I just had this discussion on Facebook earlier. They're a business- money is what they're supposed to go after (Yes, we all know GW is far from perfect but let's try an keep this on topic?) For me personally, I will be all over this release like the "mindless GW drone" that I am.

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 angelofvengeance wrote:
 pretre wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
We've seen one picture. How can anyone be calling it "rubbish" or a "blatant money grab"?

That was my thought.


Cause it's blatant loathing of GW regardless of what they release lol. I just had this discussion on Facebook earlier. They're a business- money is what they're supposed to go after (Yes, we all know GW is far from perfect but let's try an keep this on topic?) For me personally, I will be all over this release like the "mindless GW drone" that I am.


And you think posting about your blatant loathing of those with a blatant loathing of GW is more appropriate for the thread? At least they're addressing the topic and not the posters in that topic.
   
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Hrm, if I get one it'll just be to sell later.

Doubt I'll bother.

   
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Whilst one appreciates we're somewhat short of details, it'd be better all round if we made a bit more of an effort to stick to the topic at hand.

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What's with the awful chaos minis though? That's the one I don't understand
   
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The Division Of Joy wrote:
What's with the awful chaos minis though? That's the one I don't understand


They're the easy to assemble starter set minis and the I think easy to assemble chaos marine minis. It's to cater apparently to the board game crowd that really doesn't like to glue stuff.
   
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The Division Of Joy wrote:
What's with the awful chaos minis though? That's the one I don't understand


My guess would be because this is a Imperium vs. Chaos narrative. The cultists are actually useful minis, though, from a 40k perspective. Much more so than 20+ more genestealers (or even 10+ more terminators) to draw a Space Hulk comparison
   
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 evildrcheese wrote:


I think the crunch issue for me is the game mechanics, judging from what I've read in this thread it's a coop game, which sounds cool but I want to know more about how the NPCs work and interact.


That's where I am too. Loving the Eversor and Vindicare and it'll be great to get the current rules in WD (I don't use tablets or the like).

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 Haight wrote:


For my blood, its pricey, but I have always had a special place in my heart for the officio assassinorum since the 2nd ed codex came out. I love 50% of the assassin minis, like another 25%, and Culexus is Culexus i guess. The adversaries i think is pretty good deal (a term, a few space marines, and 15 cultists), and i'm sure i could convert and use other adversaries too.

It's a bit pricey but i'm game to see what its like and how it plays. If its complete pants game play wise, well, i have a few really nice assassin models i'm looking forward to painting, and i have a host of chaos and some tiles i can trade on b-town. If bartertown has taught me anything its that someone, somewhere, will want what you have eventually.



Compared to Space Hulk (any edition), it's less model value, for sure. From a 40k perspective, though, not only do you get a board game, but you get a bunch of models that are relevant and usable in the game, that have gaming value inversely proportionate to the coolness of the model value. And the models don't come on special, non-gaming bases, so we can directly use them in 40k.

We have to see if the game is any good, too. It could range anywhere from junk, to fantastic -- I'm actually quite happy with most GW board games.
   
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I'd buy it just for the assassin models. and the chaos lord. and the board game, you know what I just want it now.

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 Talys wrote:


Compared to Space Hulk (any edition), it's less model value, for sure. From a 40k perspective, though, not only do you get a board game, but you get a bunch of models that are relevant and usable in the game, that have gaming value inversely proportionate to the coolness of the model value. And the models don't come on special, non-gaming bases, so we can directly use them in 40k.

We have to see if the game is any good, too. It could range anywhere from junk, to fantastic -- I'm actually quite happy with most GW board games.


Given that it's a co-op game, even with solo-play mode, it (hopefully) should be easy and fun to tinker with. Beat it with only 3 Assassins. Only 2. Only 1. Add more Chaos Marines. Etc.., etc..
   
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I wonder if you get the full sprue for the Terminator Lord. It's actually quite a nice model, with several distinct configuration options:

http://www.games-workshop.com/en-CA/Chaos-Space-Marines-Terminator-Lord







This actually makes the modelling value pretty good -- 4 assassins + chaos lord basically pays for the box.


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Wonderwolf wrote:
 Talys wrote:

Given that it's a co-op game, even with solo-play mode, it (hopefully) should be easy and fun to tinker with. Beat it with only 3 Assassins. Only 2. Only 1. Add more Chaos Marines. Etc.., etc..


Yeah, I was thinking that the bad guys move with distinct rules, like Advanced Heroquest. Co-op board games are always cool, and a nice break.

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 angelofvengeance wrote:
For me personally, I will be all over this release like the "mindless GW drone" that I am.


Amen to that. I am both a Chaos and Imperial player, so this certainly has a place in my collection. The 4 Assassin sculpts look brilliant, so I will be all over this. Let's just hope that the rules make it a great game too,

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In the text provided by BrookM they point out the familiar is included as well. I cannot see them changing the mould to remove parts, it does not make sense financially. It's a good kit and it offers enough parts to convert the Chaos Terminator models from the squad kit. I used it for Black Reach Terminator conversions as well which turned out better than expected

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The chaos components of the set are the same as those already on retail, no new sprues or anything like that.



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I've actually been wanting to paint a chaos sorcerer in terminator armor as it is, so there is still a bit of temptation.

For me it's going to boil down to the rules.

My local store tends to have some of the all around best discounts on GW stuff, even beating out internet discounters, so I'll see how much they want for it before I finally decide if I want to take the plunge.

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Jeez, it feels lik GW was targeting me for this release.

A) My non-40K gaming friends (who actually love the setting, play the RPGs, just don't play the wargame) are in a board game frenzy lately, so they will eat this up.

B) I play both Imperial and Chaos armies, and can use a Chaos Lord in termie armour AND more cultists for the Blood Tithe

C) I only have the old, original Vindicaire model, and have often wanted to get the others but never have for whatever reason.

So yeah, this is pretty much an auto-buy for me....
   
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Well, I like them. But I guess I'll pass - too much other projects.
   
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Seems HEAVILY weighted in favor of the Assassins, doesn't it?

15 cultists, 3 CSM and 1 Lord against 4 Assassins?!?
   
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They won't know what hit them if the current assassin rules are anything to go by.



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Sneak preview of the rules!!!one!!!1!



Spoiler:

this is one of the most extensively play tested games in GW history, with over 3 play test games (4 if you count the one that was cut short on account of happy hour at bugmans). One of those games even included someone who did not help write the game for a true outsider's perspective! They ignored his imput but they heard it all the same.

Compared to Dreadfleet it has unparallelled replay value, the design team didn't get bored till halfway through the second game!

RULES:

Assassins kill cultists on a 2+, CSMs on a 4+ and wound the lord on 5+

Cultists wound assassins on 6+. CSMs on 5+ and the lord on 4+, assassins have 3 wounds.

Each Assassin has a special rule to simulate their special weapons and attack!


Special care was taken to balance each assassin so that no one assassin temple overshadows the others.

Spoiler:
Vindicare Assassins' Exodus Ammo allows them to reroll attack dice

Spoiler:
Eversore Assassins' Combat Drugs allow them to reroll attack dice

Spoiler:
Callidus Assassins' C'tan Phase Swords allow them to reroll attack dice

Spoiler:
Culexus Assassin's Paraiah rule allows them to reroll attack dice


I know I'll be playing Eversore but I have to say Callidus is tempting!

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Very cool assassins but it's another missed opportunity for GW. I'm just not interested in the existing Chaos plastics. Space Hulk was all original kits, not sure why they opted for the shortcut this time.

   
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The Culexis looks like a one-man band with a trumpet, bag pipes and a drum stuck on the top of his head.

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Yaraton wrote:
The Culexis looks like a one-man band with a trumpet, bag pipes and a drum stuck on the top of his head.


Yea I have always hated his aesthetic.

   
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 BrookM wrote:
They won't know what hit them if the current assassin rules are anything to go by.


I'm guessing their board game stats will be different to that of the 40K tabletop stats. To be fair to a Terminator Chaos Lord, he's not exactly a pushover lol. I can see the Eversor being fun in that he'll blow himself up if all else fails. (They still do that nowadays right?)

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