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Can a chapter master from the Ruakaan Codex take the Relic Melta gun "Betrayers Bane" and a thunder hammer and be a total bad ass?

Maybe? It depends on if he has access to both those weapons and what he would need to swap to get those weapons.

It LITERALLY says

" A chapter master in power armour or art. armour may take items from the Mele weapons, Ranged weapons, Special Issue Wargear and/or Chapter Relics."

Well that's not a maybe then. It's a flat-out no. Chapter Masters, Captains, whatever, do not have access to the Special Weapons list. He can have a Combimelta, but that's not really useful since there's no pistol on the CM anymore and you essentially have one shot per game if you want to charge afterwards.

 SharkoutofWata wrote:
Well that's not a maybe then. It's a flat-out no. Chapter Masters, Captains, whatever, do not have access to the Special Weapons list. He can have a Combimelta, but that's not really useful since there's no pistol on the CM anymore and you essentially have one shot per game if you want to charge afterwards.

Whoops, let me rephrase this since its specific to Clan Raukaan. The Betrayers Bane is a infinite use combi-melta Relic. This would allow him to take it from the relic, then the thunder hammer as regular. It was more of a question can he carry both and not be breaking the rules. Ha sorry for the lack of clairty on that on. He can't take special weapons youre right, but a relic melta from the IH Ruakaan codex should be legal no?


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Maybe?

Yeah, it's a Relic so follows the rules stated for taking them. You don't have to have both hands free to carry a Bolter-type weapon. As long as he is legally part of a Clan Raukaan Detachment, yep.

Pfff, isn't it obvious that rare and valuable items like flamers or meltaguns are not available to Chapter Masters?

Yes, because in WWII Captains were all issued with rifles and machine guns, yes?

Or were they instead issues service revolvers, mostly for personal defence, so they could focus on Captaining - directing - their men?

Also for personally executing insubordinates.... which marines have a tendency to do sometimes.

Indeed - however you would hope that a CM didnt need a meltagun to do that...

Well, when youre Iron Hands, a bolt pistol isnt that scary. Youre 90% metal if youre doing it right.

However an IH CM should really know where that one vital bit of metal is

And by "right" you mean "apart from what the Primarch wanted", yeah?

nosferatu1001 wrote:
However an IH CM should really know where that one vital bit of metal is

And by "right" you mean "apart from what the Primarch wanted", yeah?

That is entirely up to which clan youre in! Some go 10% augmentations, others 90%

can they get it - Yes indeed
Does it make them badass - nope, Gorgons chain is better, especially on a bike.