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LBJ Tried to kill my beloved Marine Corps, may his soul rot in hell :-D

My 3 choices:

1. Put a bald eagle on the $20. Rar!

2. FDR

3. A picture of Mount Rushmore

 kronk wrote:
My 3 choices:

1. Put a bald eagle on the $20. Rar!

2. FDR

3. A picture of Mount Rushmore

Throw in the geyser of Ole Faithful before the super volcano takes Yellowstone out

FDR Gets gak Done!

 kronk wrote:
FDR Gets gak Done!

Spoiler:

Exactly.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:

 cincydooley wrote:

 d-usa wrote:

It is easier to tolerate Jackson than to expect our government not to feth up the process of replacing him.

That sounds exactly right. Well said.

I mean, I dont dis agree.
But, lets say we where to replace him, With Whom?
I still argue that we should put Cartoon characters on money. Just for Lulz

Canada had already beat us on that one. They're minting Looney Tunes coins.

 Tannhauser42 wrote:

Canada had already beat us on that one. They're minting Looney Tunes coins.

On a coin called the loonie.....that already had a duck on it.... It's not like they're replacing Queen Elizabeth with them.

Again, I'd rather see a monument on the currency than Tubman. She's a great story. But not, IMO, worthy of being put on currency.

Hell, lets put this on the $20 if we're going to change it:



Be representative of hundreds of American heroes.

How about

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qin_Liangyu

That way, if things get really bad in a few years, you'll only have to change the lettering and you'll be good

This would literally be the final straw for me. They do this and I am moving to Canada.

 Xenomancers wrote:
This would literally be the final straw for me. They do this and I am moving to Canada.

I, too, casually contemplate expatriatation over token gestures on things no one uses anymore.

Hope you got that new job lined up.

 Ustrello wrote:
I think we should keep old hickory, the main reason he is on there is because of the battle of New Orleans and that was/is a bigger event than tubman.

OFC it was...but lets focus on some negative stuff instead of the fact that he gallantly lead our forces in battle against our enemies. Removal is a disgrace to the entire nation.

I think Lincoln did the right thing but he did commit total war against his own people. If anyone deserves to be removed - it's him. Maybe Woodrow Wilson - the second (maybe third) worst president ever.

New Idea - lets put Harriet Tubman on the 100,000$ bill to replace Woodrow.


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 daedalus wrote:

 Xenomancers wrote:
This would literally be the final straw for me. They do this and I am moving to Canada.

I, too, casually contemplate expatriatation over token gestures on things no one uses anymore.

Hope you got that new job lined up.

Do you know how many people don't even have bank accounts in this country?

 Xenomancers wrote:

Do you know how many people don't even have bank accounts in this country?

I didn't. At a cursory glance, it looks like the majority of them are in the income range where they make less than 15k/year, so it probably intersects nicely with the EBT card group.

 cincydooley wrote:

 Tannhauser42 wrote:

Canada had already beat us on that one. They're minting Looney Tunes coins.

On a coin called the loonie.....that already had a duck on it.... It's not like they're replacing Queen Elizabeth with them.

Again, I'd rather see a monument on the currency than Tubman. She's a great story. But not, IMO, worthy of being put on currency.

Hell, lets put this on the $20 if we're going to change it:

Spoiler:

Be representative of hundreds of American heroes.

No thank you. I'd rather not have a memorial dedicated to my fallen brothers on money. Were it gets drawn on by idiots or has people tearing up to prove a point. Its bad enough people disrespect the real thing.

 cincydooley wrote:

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:


I'm going to be an donkey-cave and ask for a source for that. Emmeline Pankhurst, as one of the figureheads of the Suffragette movement, would like a word with you.

Any other non-American's you'd like us to put on our money?

I was contesting the claim that Susan B. Anthony was the most famous feminist. Most famous American feminist, sure, that's plausible. The world's bigger than just the US though.

 Ghazkuul wrote:

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:

 Ghazkuul wrote:



SIDENOTE: Susan B Anthony, most famous feminist, not first my bad.

I'm going to be an donkey-cave and ask for a source for that. Emmeline Pankhurst, as one of the figureheads of the Suffragette movement, would like a word with you.

Hold on a minute while i go google that person....why because just like 99.99% of people i have never heard of her. hold one while Susan B. Anthony, unarguably the most "FAMOUS" feminist ever gives me the finger for being a man. :-P

So you make a thread about how "feminazis" are pushing this change and yet don't know enough about history to know who Emmeline Pankhurst was? Mary Wollstonecraft probably trumps both Pankhurst and Anthony as well. Simone de Beavuoir's probably up there too, but since none of them were American I guess they don't count as famous, right?

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:


I was contesting the claim that Susan B. Anthony was the most famous feminist. Most famous American feminist, sure, that's plausible. The world's bigger than just the US though.

Not that we care about when it comes to what's on US Currency.

So you make a thread about how "feminazis" are pushing this change and yet don't know enough about history to know who Emmeline Pankhurst was? Mary Wollstonecraft probably trumps both Pankhurst and Anthony as well. Simone de Beavuoir's probably up there too, but since none of them were American I guess they don't count as famous, right?

That is correct as it pertains to this discussion.

Ooh! What about Christopher Reeves as Superman!

Suck in that gut, Mr!

 cincydooley wrote:

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:


I was contesting the claim that Susan B. Anthony was the most famous feminist. Most famous American feminist, sure, that's plausible. The world's bigger than just the US though.

Not that we care about when it comes to what's on US Currency.

So you make a thread about how "feminazis" are pushing this change and yet don't know enough about history to know who Emmeline Pankhurst was? Mary Wollstonecraft probably trumps both Pankhurst and Anthony as well. Simone de Beavuoir's probably up there too, but since none of them were American I guess they don't count as famous, right?

That is correct as it pertains to this discussion.

When someone first starts a thread on a subject complaining about "feminazis" and then shows a profound lack of knowledge about the history of feminism I'm going to call that person out on it, because it influences that persons view of who is important enough to put on currency.

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:

 cincydooley wrote:

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:


I'm going to be an donkey-cave and ask for a source for that. Emmeline Pankhurst, as one of the figureheads of the Suffragette movement, would like a word with you.

Any other non-American's you'd like us to put on our money?

I was contesting the claim that Susan B. Anthony was the most famous feminist. Most famous American feminist, sure, that's plausible. The world's bigger than just the US though.

 Ghazkuul wrote:

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:

 Ghazkuul wrote:



SIDENOTE: Susan B Anthony, most famous feminist, not first my bad.

I'm going to be an donkey-cave and ask for a source for that. Emmeline Pankhurst, as one of the figureheads of the Suffragette movement, would like a word with you.

Hold on a minute while i go google that person....why because just like 99.99% of people i have never heard of her. hold one while Susan B. Anthony, unarguably the most "FAMOUS" feminist ever gives me the finger for being a man. :-P

So you make a thread about how "feminazis" are pushing this change and yet don't know enough about history to know who Emmeline Pankhurst was? Mary Wollstonecraft probably trumps both Pankhurst and Anthony as well. Simone de Beavuoir's probably up there too, but since none of them were American I guess they don't count as famous, right?

well since we are talking about AMERICAN currency....yes they don't matter. And as far as Feminazis are concerned, I wouldn't lump Susan B. Anthony into a group with them. She at least was fighting for a specific cause that definitely needed to come around. Woman have the right to vote and have every right as a man in our country and those are useful and logical goals. Feminazi's are basically misandrists (Woman who hate men). In the United States if a Man ges drunk at a party and a woman gets drunk at a party and they sleep together, both equally inebriated, the courts will always rule that the man committed rape because the woman was not in a fit mental state to say no. That is the definition of Sexism, but for some reason it is tolerated in our country. Take that and the useless figure that Feminazi's throw around that Women on average make $.25 cents less an hour then men and your left with a bitter taste in your mouth that these women are basically out to take over the country and will not be happy until every position of power in our country has a female in it.

You American men must be super-virile if you can get so drunk you don't know what you are doing but you can still get it up and somehow identify a woman's "bits".

In my reading of the Battle of New Orleans, I was surprised to learn that the Duke of Wellington turned down command of British forces in North America. Imagine how history would have been? He certainly wouldn't have led a frontal attack on a heavily fortified position.

On the subject of Jackson, he's some nuggets of humour from my American history book. Including a house party that went badly wrong

"After his inauguration speech, Jackson mounted his horse, discharged his pistol into the air and rode off to the white house, where he hosted a reception for all who chose to come. The boisterous party exhibited the turmoil that seemed always to surround Jackson. A huge crowd pushed into the White House, surged through the rooms, upset the waiters, smashed dishes, burnt furniture, stole items, and generally made a nuisance of themselves as they attempted to shake the Presidents hand. "

My kind of President

Or this from the nullification crisis:

"Jackson's response was measured and firm, in public, but privately, he expressed disappointment at not being able to hang John C Calhoun and others he considered traitors. "

No messing with old hickory.

Is there any particular reason to put a woman in the 20 dollar bill? Isn't it kinda sexist to judge people by their gender?

 Kilkrazy wrote:
You American men must be super-virile if you can get so drunk you don't know what you are doing but you can still get it up and somehow identify a woman's "bits".

I think the point is that Alcohol lowers your inhibitions, unless your black out drunk your at least vaguely aware of what your doing. And regardless if both people are equally inebriated why is it that the male is the one committing rape and not vice versa....Or god forbid the woman just owns up to the fact that she got drunk and made a mistake and carries on with life.

Uh, guys? $20 bill? Hello?

 Ghazkuul wrote:

 Kilkrazy wrote:
You American men must be super-virile if you can get so drunk you don't know what you are doing but you can still get it up and somehow identify a woman's "bits".

I think the point is that Alcohol lowers your inhibitions, unless your black out drunk your at least vaguely aware of what your doing. And regardless if both people are equally inebriated why is it that the male is the one committing rape and not vice versa....Or god forbid the woman just owns up to the fact that she got drunk and made a mistake and carries on with life.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
You American men must be super-virile if you can get so drunk you don't know what you are doing but you can still get it up and somehow identify a woman's "bits".

So it's safe to assume you've never had drunken sex before?

Doesn't take a whole lot to figure out "where it goes." They're made to fit together....

 Kilkrazy wrote:
You American men must be super-virile if you can get so drunk you don't know what you are doing but you can still get it up and somehow identify a woman's "bits".

That ability goes slightly after the ability to make wise decisions or even understand those around you have also lost this ability. There are stages to intoxication. Loss of judgement starts way before loss of sexual arousal. Otherwise I'd have been with a lot less girls when I was in college. A lot less.

 Ghazkuul wrote:
Go take a quick look at the cost for reprinting $20 with a different face. Furthermore, only 2 bills currently in circulation feature anyone other then a President, Benjamin Franklin and Alexander Hamilton.

Benjamin Franklin was a founding father of the US, an inventor, post master, political theorist, patriot and the list goes on

Alexander Hamilton was a founding father, basically hand made the US economy and led our country through some of its harshest times.

Please, anyone name a female who can match that level of influence in our country and we can easily find a way to put her on a bank note. Also, keep in mind that the silver and gold dollars (still in circulation) feature 2 women already, Susan B. Anthony (first feminist ever) and Sacagawea.

The cost is nothing if they are producing new style bills anyway. The printing plates are being reforged for the new designs regardless. Changing the face costs nothing extra.

Meh, Jackson deserves to be there. Did he do some bad things? Yep, just like pretty much everyone else on our money

I might not have said that 5 years ago but a book series sparked my interest in him which led me to a lot of reading about the man and for his all his faults he was an amazing man and American.

 Ghazkuul wrote:
In the United States if a Man ges drunk at a party and a woman gets drunk at a party and they sleep together, both equally inebriated, the courts will always rule that the man committed rape because the woman was not in a fit mental state to say no. That is the definition of Sexism, but for some reason it is tolerated in our country.

Explain to me who filled a lawsuit in that case. The man? Do you have any occurrence of a man filling such a complaint and not getting satisfaction?

Certainly there is some sexism involved. But maybe not the way you expect.

After three pages, this thread descended exactly into what I thought it would.


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OT: I really don't see what made Jackson so great. Economic or social impact, I think he could stand to be replaced. And yeah, I think having a woman on the $20 bill would be good. Most women already feel marginalized from government, despite having Susan B. Anthony on the gold dollar (which I've only had maybe 4 or 5 times) vs. Jackson on the $20, which I've had countless of.

Also, the person who is gonna move to Canada if they take Jackson off the $20? Here, I'll buy you a ticket with my new all women dollar bills.

 jreilly89 wrote:
And yeah, I think having a woman on the $20 bill would be good. Most women already feel marginalized from government, despite having Susan B. Anthony on the gold dollar (which I've only had maybe 4 or 5 times) vs. Jackson on the $20, which I've had countless of.

Good call! Instead of encouraging more women to enter government, we should just slap some random one of questionable historical gravitas on our currency to appease them. Good call.

Can't we just wait 5 or 6 years after Hilary is inevitably elected and then dies during her second term?