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 kronk wrote:

 Xenomancers wrote:

 stanman wrote:
If they want to get rid of Jackson they should put Ronald Reagan on the $20.

A questionable pick - but still better than Tubman.

How about Kennedy? Launched our nation into a new era of exploration. Prevented Nuclear war and started the peace corps.

Plowed Marilyn Monroe.

Give him more credit than that....

 kronk wrote:

 Xenomancers wrote:

 stanman wrote:
If they want to get rid of Jackson they should put Ronald Reagan on the $20.

A questionable pick - but still better than Tubman.

How about Kennedy? Launched our nation into a new era of exploration. Prevented Nuclear war and started the peace corps.

Plowed Marilyn Monroe.

Bay of Pigs.
But really, he wouldn't be a bad choice.

 cincydooley wrote:

 kronk wrote:

 Xenomancers wrote:

 stanman wrote:
If they want to get rid of Jackson they should put Ronald Reagan on the $20.

A questionable pick - but still better than Tubman.

How about Kennedy? Launched our nation into a new era of exploration. Prevented Nuclear war and started the peace corps.

Plowed Marilyn Monroe.

Give him more credit than that....

I had no idea. Thanks for the read!

 MWHistorian wrote:

 kronk wrote:

 Xenomancers wrote:

 stanman wrote:
If they want to get rid of Jackson they should put Ronald Reagan on the $20.

A questionable pick - but still better than Tubman.

How about Kennedy? Launched our nation into a new era of exploration. Prevented Nuclear war and started the peace corps.

Plowed Marilyn Monroe.

Bay of Pigs.
But really, he wouldn't be a bad choice.

CIA's fault. Kennedy called them out for it - realistically it probably got him killed. At least we can agree he would be a good choice.


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 kronk wrote:

 cincydooley wrote:

 kronk wrote:

 Xenomancers wrote:

 stanman wrote:
If they want to get rid of Jackson they should put Ronald Reagan on the $20.

A questionable pick - but still better than Tubman.

How about Kennedy? Launched our nation into a new era of exploration. Prevented Nuclear war and started the peace corps.

Plowed Marilyn Monroe.

Give him more credit than that....

I had no idea. Thanks for the read!

Can't blame a man for bein a playa.

 kronk wrote:

 cincydooley wrote:

 kronk wrote:

 Xenomancers wrote:

 stanman wrote:
If they want to get rid of Jackson they should put Ronald Reagan on the $20.

A questionable pick - but still better than Tubman.

How about Kennedy? Launched our nation into a new era of exploration. Prevented Nuclear war and started the peace corps.

Plowed Marilyn Monroe.

Give him more credit than that....

I had no idea. Thanks for the read!

Tyrannosaursexmachine......no one can equal that.....

 MWHistorian wrote:

 kronk wrote:

 Xenomancers wrote:

 stanman wrote:
If they want to get rid of Jackson they should put Ronald Reagan on the $20.

A questionable pick - but still better than Tubman.

How about Kennedy? Launched our nation into a new era of exploration. Prevented Nuclear war and started the peace corps.

Plowed Marilyn Monroe.

Bay of Pigs.
But really, he wouldn't be a bad choice.

Horrible choice

Bay of Pigs
started us into Vietnam.

feth that.

 Jihadin wrote:


Tyrannosaursexmachine......no one can equal that.....

"If I don't have sex everyday, I get a headache..."

I'll have to remember that line. "But baby, it's a medical necessity!"

Dead presidents and historical figures are so boring, get rid of all of them and replace our bills with Wrestlemania

$1,000 - Iron Sheik
$100 - Hulk Hogan
$50 - Andre the Giant
$20 - Nikolai Volkoff
$10 - Mr T
$5 - King Kong Bundy
$1 - Roddy Piper

 Frazzled wrote:

 MWHistorian wrote:

 kronk wrote:

 Xenomancers wrote:

 stanman wrote:
If they want to get rid of Jackson they should put Ronald Reagan on the $20.

A questionable pick - but still better than Tubman.

How about Kennedy? Launched our nation into a new era of exploration. Prevented Nuclear war and started the peace corps.

Plowed Marilyn Monroe.

Bay of Pigs.
But really, he wouldn't be a bad choice.

Horrible choice

Bay of Pigs
started us into Vietnam.

feth that.

Vietnam - good point. Wasn't that conflict kinda inevitable? Plus communism did fail - wasn't that the whole idea? Still though - better than tubman?

No conflict is inevitable except for Dachshundgeddon, when the Great Wienie frees us all from cat bondage.

Blasphemy! Our feline benefactors know the true path for man kind.

 stanman wrote:
Dead presidents and historical figures are so boring, get rid of all of them and replace our bills with Wrestlemania

$1,000 - Iron Sheik
$100 - Hulk Hogan
$50 - Andre the Giant
$20 - Nikolai Volkoff
$10 - Mr T
$5 - King Kong Bundy
$1 - Roddy Piper

You have the beginnings of a great idea there. But where is the Undertaker? And Rick Flair? Mr T needs to go immediately. Maybe replace Volkoff with Sgt Slaughter.

 Manchu wrote:

 stanman wrote:
Dead presidents and historical figures are so boring, get rid of all of them and replace our bills with Wrestlemania

$1,000 - Iron Sheik
$100 - Hulk Hogan
$50 - Andre the Giant
$20 - Nikolai Volkoff
$10 - Mr T
$5 - King Kong Bundy
$1 - Roddy Piper

You have the beginnings of a great idea there. But where is the Undertaker? And Rick Flair? Mr T needs to go immediately. Maybe replace Volkoff with Sgt Slaughter.

You both left Ultimate Warrior off the list. For shame!

 kronk wrote:
A new challenger has landed!

I sincerely disagree with you.... Siri told her to turn right, she turned left, and we ain't heard from her since....


Then again, that's kinda what our lawmakers have been doing with the economy so it sorta fits.

No Mick Foley love?

 Manchu wrote:

 stanman wrote:
Dead presidents and historical figures are so boring, get rid of all of them and replace our bills with Wrestlemania

$1,000 - Iron Sheik
$100 - Hulk Hogan
$50 - Andre the Giant
$20 - Nikolai Volkoff
$10 - Mr T
$5 - King Kong Bundy
$1 - Roddy Piper

You have the beginnings of a great idea there. But where is the Undertaker? And Rick Flair? Mr T needs to go immediately. Maybe replace Volkoff with Sgt Slaughter.

Yeah, Rick Flair needs to be the $1 so that way, when we're all in the strip club, we can go "Wooo!" as we're makin it rain.


Also... when was Mr. T in Wrestlemania?

Seriously, how about Abigail Adams?

 DarkTraveler777 wrote:
You both left Ultimate Warrior off the list. For shame!

You did right calling us out there.

They're all a bunch of candy ass's, I quietly submit the peoples champion to be on all US currency, as well as next president.

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

 Manchu wrote:

 stanman wrote:
Dead presidents and historical figures are so boring, get rid of all of them and replace our bills with Wrestlemania

$1,000 - Iron Sheik
$100 - Hulk Hogan
$50 - Andre the Giant
$20 - Nikolai Volkoff
$10 - Mr T
$5 - King Kong Bundy
$1 - Roddy Piper

You have the beginnings of a great idea there. But where is the Undertaker? And Rick Flair? Mr T needs to go immediately. Maybe replace Volkoff with Sgt Slaughter.

Yeah, Rick Flair needs to be the $1 so that way, when we're all in the strip club, we can go "Wooo!" as we're makin it rain.


Also... when was Mr. T in Wrestlemania?

No Super Fly Snuka?

 Xenomancers wrote:

 MWHistorian wrote:

 kronk wrote:

 Xenomancers wrote:

 stanman wrote:
If they want to get rid of Jackson they should put Ronald Reagan on the $20.

A questionable pick - but still better than Tubman.

How about Kennedy? Launched our nation into a new era of exploration. Prevented Nuclear war and started the peace corps.

Plowed Marilyn Monroe.

Bay of Pigs.
But really, he wouldn't be a bad choice.

CIA's fault. Kennedy called them out for it - realistically it probably got him killed. At least we can agree he would be a good choice.

Care to elaborate on that one?

 stanman wrote:
Dead presidents and historical figures are so boring, get rid of all of them and replace our bills with Wrestlemania

$1,000 - Iron Sheik
$100 - Hulk Hogan
$50 - Andre the Giant
$20 - Nikolai Volkoff
$10 - Mr T
$5 - King Kong Bundy
$1 - Roddy Piper

 Manchu wrote:
You have the beginnings of a great idea there. But where is the Undertaker? And Rick Flair? Mr T needs to go immediately. Maybe replace Volkoff with Sgt Slaughter.

 dogma wrote:
No Mick Foley love?

There's plenty of other great wrestlers but that list is all the crew of the original Wrestlemania 1 aka the "Pounding Fathers" if you will later wrestlemaniacs we could add as coins.

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:
Yeah, Rick Flair needs to be the $1 so that way, when we're all in the strip club, we can go "Wooo!" as we're makin it rain.

Also... when was Mr. T in Wrestlemania?

Rick flair would be awesome on the dollar lol. Mr T was in a tag team Match with Hogan in WM1, Liberace and Muhammad Ali were guest judges. It had some crazy awesome stuff.

It seems to me that the very sensible case to take Jackson off $20 quickly became ‘and what woman shall we replace him with?” Eisenhower and FDR have overwhelming cases for being included on your money, far more than anyone else I can think of, man or woman.

I mean, sure, it sucks that no woman are represented on your currency, but I guess that’s one of the realities of a history in which women were excluded from positions of power – great women still did great things, but because they did it outside of the halls of power, the scale of their achievements ends up much less. I mean, Tubman did amazing things, but FDR had control of government, and so things like guiding a nation through a Great Depression and a world war are just really, obviously, much bigger things.

 Ghazkuul wrote:
Judging a person 200 years in the future is a bit harsh don't you feel? should we therefore judge Every American President until Abraham Lincoln even harsher for condoning if not outright owning slaves?

The times are the times. in 200 years people might look back on us and think "Ohh my, they elected George Bush Sr to President when he killed all those Japanese pilots in World war two" Its a bit ridiculous to judge a man 200 years later when it was considered fine in the public back then.

Even by the standards of the time, Jackson’s behaviour was pretty odious.

That said, I do agree with your general point that we shouldn’t turn historical figures in to monsters by putting our morals on to them. But that doesn’t really work you’re talking about people you’re putting on your currency – which means you are judging them, and judging them in a most favourable light.

 Blood Hawk wrote:
Also politics is not a family friendly institution. To really be successful in politics it means you have heavily focus on your career probably at the cost of other things. The average politician spends many hours away from the family working, raising money, traveling around the country to various events, etc.

I wonder how men manage to do it then.

Yup, sign me up with the group that wants Jackson to stay on the bill. It's part of our country's damn heritage.

Make up a $5 coin or a $40 bill for Tubman if people feel so strongly about getting her in. But don't boot an already established president's face from the bill. It's asinine.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Blood Hawk wrote:
Also politics is not a family friendly institution. To really be successful in politics it means you have heavily focus on your career probably at the cost of other things. The average politician spends many hours away from the family working, raising money, traveling around the country to various events, etc.

I wonder how men manage to do it then.

Because men are more willing on average to spend time away from their family? Polls/studies show this. Some careers require you to make sacrifices, politics is one of them and women are less willing on average to make those sacrifices.

edit: There are other reasons: many people become politicians later in life once their kids are adults and don't need them as much, their wives are the primary parent for their kids, etc.

I mean I have heard people make the claim that Present Obama isn't spending enough time networking at night because he spending those nights with his kids instead. Networking at night means building relationships with other politicians, lobbyists, etc.. One could make the argument that if had done networking instead he could have gotten a little more done with his first 7 years as president. So spending time with your kids vs. your career.

 sebster wrote:
It seems to me that the very sensible case to take Jackson off $20 quickly became ‘and what woman shall we replace him with?” Eisenhower and FDR have overwhelming cases for being included on your money, far more than anyone else I can think of, man or woman.

I mean, sure, it sucks that no woman are represented on your currency, but I guess that’s one of the realities of a history in which women were excluded from positions of power – great women still did great things, but because they did it outside of the halls of power, the scale of their achievements ends up much less. I mean, Tubman did amazing things, but FDR had control of government, and so things like guiding a nation through a Great Depression and a world war are just really, obviously, much bigger things.

 Ghazkuul wrote:
Judging a person 200 years in the future is a bit harsh don't you feel? should we therefore judge Every American President until Abraham Lincoln even harsher for condoning if not outright owning slaves?

The times are the times. in 200 years people might look back on us and think "Ohh my, they elected George Bush Sr to President when he killed all those Japanese pilots in World war two" Its a bit ridiculous to judge a man 200 years later when it was considered fine in the public back then.

Even by the standards of the time, Jackson’s behaviour was pretty odious.

That said, I do agree with your general point that we shouldn’t turn historical figures in to monsters by putting our morals on to them. But that doesn’t really work you’re talking about people you’re putting on your currency – which means you are judging them, and judging them in a most favourable light.

FDR? LOLOLOLOLOL - That guy is the biggest theif the world has ever known. Quite literally.


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 timetowaste85 wrote:
Yup, sign me up with the group that wants Jackson to stay on the bill. It's part of our country's damn heritage.

Make up a $5 coin or a $40 bill for Tubman if people feel so strongly about getting her in. But don't boot an already established president's face from the bill. It's asinine.

Thats how I feel - it's insulting.

 Xenomancers wrote:

 sebster wrote:
It seems to me that the very sensible case to take Jackson off $20 quickly became ‘and what woman shall we replace him with?” Eisenhower and FDR have overwhelming cases for being included on your money, far more than anyone else I can think of, man or woman.

I mean, sure, it sucks that no woman are represented on your currency, but I guess that’s one of the realities of a history in which women were excluded from positions of power – great women still did great things, but because they did it outside of the halls of power, the scale of their achievements ends up much less. I mean, Tubman did amazing things, but FDR had control of government, and so things like guiding a nation through a Great Depression and a world war are just really, obviously, much bigger things.

 Ghazkuul wrote:
Judging a person 200 years in the future is a bit harsh don't you feel? should we therefore judge Every American President until Abraham Lincoln even harsher for condoning if not outright owning slaves?

The times are the times. in 200 years people might look back on us and think "Ohh my, they elected George Bush Sr to President when he killed all those Japanese pilots in World war two" Its a bit ridiculous to judge a man 200 years later when it was considered fine in the public back then.

Even by the standards of the time, Jackson’s behaviour was pretty odious.

That said, I do agree with your general point that we shouldn’t turn historical figures in to monsters by putting our morals on to them. But that doesn’t really work you’re talking about people you’re putting on your currency – which means you are judging them, and judging them in a most favourable light.

FDR? LOLOLOLOLOL - That guy is the biggest theif the world has ever known. Quite literally.

You're probably going to have to elaborate if you want to actually have a discussion on the subject.

 Mozzyfuzzy wrote:
They're all a bunch of candy ass's, I quietly submit the peoples champion to be on all US currency, as well as next president.

Dwayne Johnson for president. I AM DOWN.


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 AlmightyWalrus wrote:

 Xenomancers wrote:

 sebster wrote:
It seems to me that the very sensible case to take Jackson off $20 quickly became ‘and what woman shall we replace him with?” Eisenhower and FDR have overwhelming cases for being included on your money, far more than anyone else I can think of, man or woman.

I mean, sure, it sucks that no woman are represented on your currency, but I guess that’s one of the realities of a history in which women were excluded from positions of power – great women still did great things, but because they did it outside of the halls of power, the scale of their achievements ends up much less. I mean, Tubman did amazing things, but FDR had control of government, and so things like guiding a nation through a Great Depression and a world war are just really, obviously, much bigger things.

 Ghazkuul wrote:
Judging a person 200 years in the future is a bit harsh don't you feel? should we therefore judge Every American President until Abraham Lincoln even harsher for condoning if not outright owning slaves?

The times are the times. in 200 years people might look back on us and think "Ohh my, they elected George Bush Sr to President when he killed all those Japanese pilots in World war two" Its a bit ridiculous to judge a man 200 years later when it was considered fine in the public back then.

Even by the standards of the time, Jackson’s behaviour was pretty odious.

That said, I do agree with your general point that we shouldn’t turn historical figures in to monsters by putting our morals on to them. But that doesn’t really work you’re talking about people you’re putting on your currency – which means you are judging them, and judging them in a most favourable light.

FDR? LOLOLOLOLOL - That guy is the biggest theif the world has ever known. Quite literally.

You're probably going to have to elaborate if you want to actually have a discussion on the subject.

So you're just trolling then. Good to know.