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This is an idea i got from another thread, and i think it might be a good idea.

Some people are known to play the army of grey, while others paint faster than they earn money.

I figured, let those guys meet here and talk.

So im thinking, if you are interested in painting a certain model, perhaps borrow it for a while as payment, state it here.

On the other side, if you have a model you want painted, but dont want to pay to get it done, state here what model and someone may want to do it.

Have at it, lets see if this can work.

Not a bad idea.

I like the idea, I am not a pro by any means but wanting to do my best for another might be a good way to improve skills.

My thinking is that I will post a picture of a mini or my own later tonight and see if anyone bite. And the worst thing that can happen (beside loosing the mini) is that I will feel the need of stripping it.

Great, you do that, im eager to see if this turns out well.

Sounds like a cool idea, I'd love to see this get some traction! Less grey mins, more fun stuff for us painters to paint, it's a win-win!

@Hawehu: Perhaps, if you're willing to put in the effort, you could keep the OP updated with a list of volunteers to paint (organised by country), and for each have:
- link to their profile (for PMing to organise stuff) and gallery
- a few (spoilered) pictures of their work, across genres if possible
- list of what they would be willing to paint (range, scale, quantity ect)
- eventually number of volunteer 'commissions' completed


I'd be up for it!

Hawehu@hotmail.com wrote:
This is an idea i got from another thread, and i think it might be a good idea.

Some people are known to play the army of grey, while others paint faster than they earn money.

I figured, let those guys meet here and talk.

So im thinking, if you are interested in painting a certain model, perhaps borrow it for a while as payment, state it here.

On the other side, if you have a model you want painted, but dont want to pay to get it done, state here what model and someone may want to do it.

Have at it, lets see if this can work.

Maybe you could get someone to write an App for that???

MB
P.S. good idea... I am working on some Starships that I know I will not be able to do justice to some of the details I am doing, and I would completely allow someone to use them for a few months if they would paint them for me.

Seems like good ideas, i will perhaps do something if this thread goes anywhere.

Doesnt seem like many people are willing to paint or get stuff painted yet.


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I imagined that some people wouldnt mind if the quality wasnt supergood, as there is no payment, so if somebody want to paint, they can offer to do it, then show a pic or something.

And if we have people do their interactions through this thread then it is public knowledge, so harder to do fishy business.

Well, I will start of... I have been sitting on this mini for a while and don't really have any inspiration for it...

It's a librarian from the Dark Vengeance box and I am playing Dark Angels. So basicly a blue paintscheme of the librarians, I have no preference on any of the detailing. If you are willing to do your best and think you will enjoy it you are welcome to have a go.

Also I am willing to paint something of similar size and complexity. I am thinking about a 3 month duration should be good. Personally I am in it for the challenge so I don't really mind the borrowing. Also, international works for me, the postage should be low since it's a small piece.

My Level is about this:

Exellent granander.
Your skill is so good, i am tempted to send you some of my models, although i made this thread for people who have problems either getting their hands on new models to paint or problems painting new models.

You are based in Europe, but i dont think it will be a huge cost to send stuff to and from America either.

Anyways cheaper than shipping plus painting costs.

Hoping someone will send you a model, but if not, i will, just to get this going.


That librarian is from dark vengeance and it looks pretty sweet. I have it myself and it is unpainted here too.

I PM'd someone who made a thread about cheap painting options. Maybe he will come here to post.

I have a few figures I believe that folk might find an interesting change - original metal Confrontation wolfen, strange promotional pieces, weird small dragons, etc.
I'm reasonable standard myself and wouldn't volunteer when I don't have time.

My question is what stops someone rolling up and volunteering but then perpetuating the problem by sitting on the figure? Would you enforce a return limit (3-6 months or something)? Life can throw curves and I'd hate to see a project with ace intentions turn sour.
Maybe prepaid return labels to help out? You can certainly do those with PayPal these days, even abroad (I'd be happy to put a small guide together on how).

 Buttery Commissar wrote:
I have a few figures I believe that folk might find an interesting change - original metal Confrontation wolfen, strange promotional pieces, weird small dragons, etc.
I'm reasonable standard myself and wouldn't volunteer when I don't have time.

My question is what stops someone rolling up and volunteering but then perpetuating the problem by sitting on the figure? Would you enforce a return limit (3-6 months or something)? Life can throw curves and I'd hate to see a project with ace intentions turn sour.
Maybe prepaid return labels to help out? You can certainly do those with PayPal these days, even abroad (I'd be happy to put a small guide together on how).

True enough, there would be that danger (although I'd hate to think anyone here would delay deliberately, but as your say life can mess stuff up). Personally I reckon I'd be able to turn something around in a week or so at the moment and only hang onto it long enough to take pics (I hardly get to game with my own stuff, let alone anyone else's) but for longer periods and people borrowing minis it might be worth it to do prepaid labels or something.

As for the minis, feel free to post or PM me some pics, sounds like you might have some stuff that would make a nice change!

@Granader: the only reason I won't take you up on that is that the last time I painted that mini it turned out horribly. But if you have any other DA (preferably greenies or Deathwing, I'm not too hot on Ravenwing) you want done then let me know! I'd certainly like another shot at the DV Company Master if you wanted him done!

I might try this is there was an app to support and organize this a bit better, but I am currently not in a position to make one.

Roknar wrote:I might try this is there was an app to support and organize this a bit better, but I am currently not in a position to make one.

To be honest not even an app, just a consolidated Google spreadsheet with a couple of folk with editing access, Name, Figure, Painter, Date sent, Return By, Returned, etc. and it's easy enough to track.
Second page/sheet for completed logs and a mirror for record keeping.
I'm sure smarter people could think of a better way, but there's one that only takes 10 minutes.

Paradigm wrote:True enough, there would be that danger (although I'd hate to think anyone here would delay deliberately, but as your say life can mess stuff up). Personally I reckon I'd be able to turn something around in a week or so at the moment and only hang onto it long enough to take pics (I hardly get to game with my own stuff, let alone anyone else's) but for longer periods and people borrowing minis it might be worth it to do prepaid labels or something.

Oh I certainly didn't mean anything untoward, but just how "tomorrow" becomes next weekend, and that slipped, and is it June already? Add the artist delay mindset, and it just happens.
For example I had one plane to paint this month and due to various family malady, it's just not happened.

I'll have a think and post up later, you're certainly entitled to first dibs on what I find. I tend to pick up pieces that are of no earthly gaming use but have a nice narrative or inexplicable personal resonance. But due to that's non gaming use, they just slide back...

 Buttery Commissar wrote:

Paradigm wrote:True enough, there would be that danger (although I'd hate to think anyone here would delay deliberately, but as your say life can mess stuff up). Personally I reckon I'd be able to turn something around in a week or so at the moment and only hang onto it long enough to take pics (I hardly get to game with my own stuff, let alone anyone else's) but for longer periods and people borrowing minis it might be worth it to do prepaid labels or something.

Oh I certainly didn't mean anything untoward, but just how "tomorrow" becomes next weekend, and that slipped, and is it June already? Add the artist delay mindset, and it just happens.
For example I had one plane to paint this month and due to various family malady, it's just not happened.

Yeah, I definitely wasn't suggesting anyone here would actively hold on to stuff too long or not pull through on the deal or anything, just that I'm sure both parties would benefit from having some kind of assurance in place. I like the online spreadsheet idea, that would be a good way of keeping everything in one place.

 Paradigm wrote:

@Granader: the only reason I won't take you up on that is that the last time I painted that mini it turned out horribly. But if you have any other DA (preferably greenies or Deathwing, I'm not too hot on Ravenwing) you want done then let me know! I'd certainly like another shot at the DV Company Master if you wanted him done!

The guy with the sword straight up? PM me an adresse an I will send it.


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For me the short of it, I won't send anything that I am not prepared to loose in a worst case scenario.

I will bitch and whine a bit but I will get over it. Over time you build trust even with forum contacts.

Yes good ideas for security, you are welcome to take this further if you like.

I myself just saw the possible market for this instead of paying to paint or get stuff painted.


To me it seems safe enough just because most people are what, 30 years old, and one or two models are not worth throwing away the profile here for.






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I mean, check out each other on facebook, talk on skype, make an agreement in public here, that should make it safe enough, and as granander said, dont give away invaluable stuff, atleast not first time you send someone something.

Build up relationships that last for years, get stuff painted both ways, this is the awesomethread...

 granander wrote:

 Paradigm wrote:

@Granader: the only reason I won't take you up on that is that the last time I painted that mini it turned out horribly. But if you have any other DA (preferably greenies or Deathwing, I'm not too hot on Ravenwing) you want done then let me know! I'd certainly like another shot at the DV Company Master if you wanted him done!

The guy with the sword straight up? PM me an adresse an I will send it.

PM sent!

If anyone from aus or nz wants in on this, I have no motivation to paint my own stuff and EVERY motivation to paint someone elses.

What I would really like would be to assemble stuff - If you have stuff that needs assembly and/or painting, I am all over that like a fat girl on a cupcake

Edit: Curse you dakkaflag, I am in Sydney, not Tokyo

I would be interested. My painting isn't near the level of some on here. So would it be a one model thing? or a squad? I am a slow painter. so usually 18-23 hours for a vehicle, and 4 hours for a space marine, 9-14 for characters like Calgar or banners. I paint for fun and like to do random models for friends.

This is a great way to get your mini stolen, and no help from paypal...

 Snoopdeville3 wrote:
This is a great way to get your mini stolen, and no help from paypal...

It is, that is why you REALLY have to be picky and make judgement calls on who to send to. And as stated before, be prepared to lose your mini in a worst case scenario.

 Snoopdeville3 wrote:
This is a great way to get your mini stolen, and no help from paypal...

Which is why we're talking about miniatures, and not your first born child.
I mean unless you really don't like your child very much.
Please don't send me (or anyone else) a child.

Here's a spreadsheet thing.

At the moment only I can edit it, but if you PM an email address, then I can add you, and then I think you can add more people and it can daisychain.
I am not leaving it open-edit because that would mean anyone (or their cat) could delete the entire contents.
If that's a faff, just comment and someone will doubtless slap stuff onto it.

Anyway - if anyone fancies having a crack at Josef Bugman (he can either hold a barstool, or a dwarven axe, and comes with both a floor diorama of his spilt pint, and a standard WHF base)
I don't mind which option as long as you don't put him on a standard WHF base with the stool, which would just be funny and useless.

Alternatively there is Varghar (your choice of assembled or partly built) - random wash-test marine for scale:
I'll photocopy the cards in his blister for you to use. He is heavy.

Bonus round: And if you really hate yourself you can have a crack at this thing that I am in no hurry to have back. I don't know what it is but it's a small child's fist worth of second hand terror.


I'll paste up some painting examples of my stuff after the weekend when I know I can give full attention.

If you want to post that last thing to Australia, I will have a crack at it.

Kinda doubt it would make it back in one piece is the only problem

I've got no problem with that!
unless Paradigm wants to join in on the self-abuse and try that thing out, as I offered him(?) first choice of weirdness.

If you reuse the packaging I send it in, it should be fine, and I'll paypal you the cost to send it back, if and when.

It's this thing by the way: "Malryte - Half Dragon Dire Wolf" http://www.coolminiornot.com/shop/media/catalog/product/v/e/vel4009.jpg

Edit: Which is apparently now a resin model? I wish mine was, would weigh far less.

Can I throw my hat in as a volunteer. .. im no golden deamon winner but have won several local comps.
I'm also fairly adept at converting miniatures, around eighty percent of my own armies are conversions. I specialise in chaos miniatures, but would willingly paint any other armies. Please feel free to check out my gallery for more

@Buttery Commissar: that half dragon half wolf thing does look like quite the challenge, but since kb_lock asked first I'm more than happy for him to have a crack at it.

I've currently agreed to do the Dark Angel Master for Granader, and don't want to take on two projects at once, but if no one else has taken up Bugman once I'm done with that (should be fairly quick once I get it) then I'd like to have a shot at it.

I'm easy yo, I don't think I'd do the bugman justice (and I don't like dwarves).

I won't be offended if you want to wait for Paradigm, BC - all I am trying to do is find something to paint, and the metric ton of plastic in my house isn't appealing enough apparently

You're up, kb.
Just PM me your address, and stuff, and I'll try and get him out to you after the bank holiday.

Paradigm, considering I have at least three of him, you're welcome to try a Bugman any time if/when you fancy. Likewise anyone else reading this.
When visiting WHW I made the mistake of thinking "I need a second one for the other option!" and forgetting how many times I'd already done that. Back then he was only £8-something so it wasn't that much of an error.

Awesome, look forward to the pressure of having someone else's mini to work on (comps arent enough pressure, apparently).

Also, if anyone wants something to paint, I have an old set of khorne bezerkers, some orks, and maybe an escape from goblin town hero (or 8) if anyone is keen. I also have some metal space wolve characters i have no interest in painting. If anything interests you, let me know.