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Made in gb
Prophetic Blood Angel Librarian




So after a long and fruitful discussion on how to include Scarbrand in an army for his hatred and rage bubble, here is the army I came up with (have already invested in the DPs from Ebay, got my eye on a perfect Skarbrand and Be'lakor too).

Daemons:
Skarbrand

Be'lakor

3 nurglings

3 nurglings

Chariot of slaanesh
Greater gift on the Exalted Alluress

Chariot of Slaanesh
Greater gift on the Exalted Alluress

Chariot of Slaanesh
Greater gift on the Exalted Alluress

CSMs
DP of Khorne with PA, Wings and AoBF

DP of Nurgle with PA, Wings and The Black Mace

10 cultists

10 cultists

1 Maulerfiend with magma cutters

1 Maulerfiend with magma cutters

1 Maulerfiend with lasher tendrils

1850pts.

Chariots take Greater Eatherblade for greater gift.
Shrouded cast first on Be'lakor, the DPoK near him so all 3 winged DP's get a 2+ jink save. This means 3 Maulerfiends, 3 Chariots, 2 Daemon weapon DPs and Be'lakor, will all be hitting the opponents line T2. Skarbrand invised as second priority after shrouded (if he is opponents shooting priority in T1 then they are ignoring what is about to hit their lines T2).
Skarbrand will be close enough to be giving most units rage and hatred. These particularly benefit Maulerfiends with Magma cutters for that second auto hit and also the chariots - as the chariots will need to charge with another unit or almost wipe out the unit the charge with the 2d6 st4 rending hits + the attacks from the Exalted Allures, before the opponent strikes their T3 5++ 1w rider. So +2 attacks (for 6) on the charge, rerolling hits, and +1s and ap2 from the greater eatherblades (along with the base ws5 and I5) will help with this. Hatred will also benefit the Daemon weapon DPs due to their sheer amout of attacks (increased by rage).
Skarbrand, DPoK, a Maulerfiend duo of magma + lasher, and Be'lakor can all take on IKs. Whilst Skarbrand, DPoN a Maulerfiend duo of magma + lasher and Be'lakor can all take on WKs so I wouldn't be worried about these.
Chariots are a decent counter to MSU.
No air counters apart from 3 vector strikes, but if the opponent has invested heavily in air power, they have even less to shoot in that imperative T1 shooting phase. And could be easily tabled.

What do you think?

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2015/05/25 12:07:11


 
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut




I am still concerned about skarbrand being too slow.

Would feel better if the nurglings were swapped out for bloodletters with musician and banner and some horrors. Obviously you'd need to cut something else, but you get a more reliable skarbrand delivery and another 2 warp charge giving a better chance of getting off the spells you want.

DFTT 
   
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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh





I want to see a bat rep for this!
   
Made in gb
Prophetic Blood Angel Librarian




Captyn_Bob wrote:
I am still concerned about skarbrand being too slow.

Would feel better if the nurglings were swapped out for bloodletters with musician and banner and some horrors. Obviously you'd need to cut something else, but you get a more reliable skarbrand delivery and another 2 warp charge giving a better chance of getting off the spells you want.


I'd be using Scarbrand as a second wave and/or joining in any scraps in midfield. After T2 movement he will be 12 + 2d6" futher forward so his 12" bubble should be in range of most of the units the majority of the time for T2 assaults. Also it tempts the opponent to split their fire even further. Although if they focus on Skarbrand primarily, then it means the rest will all be hitting home T2, especially if invised.
His speed may become an issue though and I may have to drop some things out rather than collect the whole list... I'll give it a go sooner with a different high-threat list as soon as I have Skarbrand and Be'lakor.


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 Filch wrote:
I want to see a bat rep for this!


That'll be a long way off yet. Apart from the cultists and now the DP's, I'll have to get SB and Be'lakor in the next payday and the Maulerfiends, nuglings and chriots with later pay checks. This is the first list since building my renegade army that I'll want to collect properly though (still want to get a few more things for them too). So it will happen.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/05/26 05:33:29


 
   
 
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