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We had to do an Original Oratory in debate and I did mine on gaming and the pre-judices + judgments it can bring. Although It isn't talking about 40k directly, their is a link to it in my speech and it is talking about wargaming. I think this would be the best place to put it on here, but if not please move it Mods.
For those of you who don't know, an Original Oratory (OO) is a 10 minute speech presenting a problem to the community and showing a solution.
What are your thoughts? On the essay or the topic? Any critiques? Thanks, NFD
Warning wall of text
Spoiler:
“Ha what a nerd” “Your such a loser” and “lame” are 3 of the most common remarks I here people make when they observe someone doing or playing something they love that might not be the most socially acceptable thing to do. And while you might not be saying these things to their face, many of us are guilty of either thinking to ourselves, or sharing to our friends later about what a nerd those kids are. Now what if every time you went out to play basketball, watch Netflix, or do something you enjoy, everyone who passed by called you a nerd and loser? just as Martin Luther King JR stated 50 years ago “I look to a day when people will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.” People need to realize that these judge full words and uneducated remarks are not only wrong and unjust to do, but they also cause hurt and insecurities among the insulted. When looking further into this point, we will look into why these stereotypes are socially acceptable, but many others aren't. Then we will see that what you might be judging might not be so far from what you yourself is in fact doing. Then finally we will look at what these so called "harmless" stereotypes might cause. If your still awake, let's continue on.
When you see a black, do you tell them to stop robbing and stealing things? When you see a white, do you tell them to stop being such a stuck up snobby rich kid? When you see an Asian, do you tell them to stop being so awkward and smart? I should hope the answer to those questions were no, and if they weren't you might want to seek help. But now this raises a question, why is it ok to point fingers at someone playing cards and call them a nerd, but it isn't ok to point the same fingers to do some racial profiling? You might be thinking that these two comparisons aren't that similar, but in reality they really are. Both times you are labeling and judging a person, without getting to know them first. In fact, you might be surprised to learn that calling someone a "nerd", isn't the hurtful part, the hurtful part is the label that was biasedly placed over your name. John Green stated "“Why is being a nerd bad? Saying I notice you’re a nerd is like saying, ‘Hey, I notice that you’d rather be intelligent than be stupid, that you’d rather be thoughtful than be vapid, that you believe that there are things that matter more than the arrest record of Linsey Lohan. Why is that?” In fact, the definition of Nerd is a single-minded expert in a particular technical field. So if your not just labeling someone, and genuinely mean it, go ahead and call me a nerd. I wont mind. But don’t call me a nerd for doing something that I love, or at least, not out loud. It is also important to know why you are calling someone a nerd. It is because they have acne, glasses, and pimples? Quick fact, acne can happen to anyone, and nearly 75% of Americans need some type of visual correction. Is it because they are playing some board or card game that looks stupid? Why does it matter if they are having fun doing it. Is it because they answered the question no one else could understand in Algebra? Your going to regret calling them a nerd later in life when their your boss and make twice your salary. Point being, don’t call someone a nerd without really knowing why your calling them a nerd.
So alright, maybe I see why calling someone a nerd might not be the best thing to do, but why should I care. The biggest reason is what if the tables were turned? Lets compare. I'm watching my favorite videogame team playing video games. I'm labeled a nerd. Your watching your favorite sports team being streamed playing sports. Your labeled nothing. Can you see the similarities? What about when in 30 years video games have switched placed with sports and your labeled the outcast loser for watching your beloved sports? Alright, next comparison. I'm playing Dungeons and Dragons, an interactive board game, with my friends, and I'm labeled a nerd. Your playing Apples to Apples, an interactive board game, with your friends, and your labeled nothing. Who cares the name of the game if your having fun. I bet the majority of you don’t even know the premise of Dungeons or Dragons, but you do know it’s a "nerdy" game. Final comparison. Im playing my favorite computer game, a game requiring quick thinking and decisive decision making. People scoff at me and ask why im wasting my time playing. Your outside playing soccer, a game that requires quick thinking and decisive decision making. The theme being here that what you've been judging, isn't all that different than what you've been doing. What you may not know about me is that I am an avid modeler. I buy certain models, build them, and then paint them. Then there is a board game using these same models after where you can pitch your armies vs an opponents. Now here's a question, when I go to local tournaments and gaming nights, who do you think my opponents are? Other kids, 300 pound 25 year olds still living at home, maybe college kids with severe acne and no college life? You may be surprised to know this isn't the case. My normal opponents, and now friends, are in fact mostly composed of married, older men, who work normal hours at respectable jobs. In fact, If I lined up in a line those who played and those who don’t, I bet you a pretty penny you couldn't tell them apart. There's even a biker gang loaded up with tattoos who come in to game with little toy miniatures every once in a while. Not your stereotypical nerd crowd. Now I haven't myself ever played Dungeons and Dragons, I would play it in a heartbeat if I could play with a good group of friends. Because I've learned that what society deems lame and uncool, are usually in fact some of the funnest and coolest games there are. The community in these games are outstanding also. Theirs no need to worry about being "cool" or "popular". The whole reason to be there is to have fun, and everything else becomes irrelevant. You know those kids sitting at the table in the lunch-room playing cards during lunch? Every school has them. Those kids may be labeled as losers and nerds, but if you really think about it, those kids are braver than most of us. Who else is willing to do the thing they love in front of everyone else, knowing that they are being constantly judged and labeled. Everyone has or does something that makes them different, but who else openly shows it to the world, ignoring all the hate it is sure to bring upon themselves. That is true bravery.
The worst part about these pre-judgments and labels are the harms and impacts they create. As im sure you can imagine, being called a nerd and a loser doesn’t really brighten ones spirits. Not only does it cause the person being labeled to be more insecure, it also hurts their self image. Back at my other school, I had a very close friend. We did almost everything together, including the game above mentioned. At the time we were both into a card game named "Magic the Gathering", another game labeled by society as nerdy and lame. At the time I didn’t really even know about these labels, or that playing it was even considered socially unacceptable. So my friend and I played it often. We started at first only playing at each others houses, and this slowly grew into us playing during lunch, and before and after school. Slowly as we became more involved, we played more and more during school, till we were playing during class. It was fun, why not play it when we had the chance? Slowly more and more people began to play with us, until we had a good group of around 10 guys playing. We played throughout the rest of the year, oblivious to any outside judgment. Next year, this changed. Slowly I began to notice the strange looks we were given, the accusing side glances being thrown in our direction and began to realize what was happening. But It wasn’t till people began openly scoffing at us and calling us names did we begin to feel self-aware. We started playing less often, and when we did we tried to hide the fact we were playing. Our group of guys dwindled down till it was just us again. After this, many people in our school who we were good friends with wouldn't even talk to us, and would ignore us. Next year, my friend started home schooling to avoid the label that had been plastered above his head where his name should have been. Luckily for me, I was given a new chance at a new school. Freshmen year, I was so scared people would judge me and label me that I didn’t tell anyone about my hobbies or the things I loved. When I was around people I didn’t know I kept to myself and didn’t talk. This was not at all how I was years ago before the judgment and the labels, but they changed me. Just think about how you would feel if every time you tried to do something you loved, you were judged and hated? I believe it would change anyone. It can even cause depression. When one gets the feeling that no one likes them, no one cares about them, and that they don’t matter, depression is sure to follow. Calling them a nerd and a loser sure isn't helping the matter either. Im sure you all have seen at least one movie or documentary where someone has committed suicide after being depressed. This is because suicide and depression are directly related. How would you feel if you called someone a nerd and next week they committed suicide? While your comment might not be the only reason they committed, it could very well be a big part of it. Next time your being peer pressured into making fun of someone, think about the consequences.
Luckily, there is a solution for this very big and very detrimental harm plaguing society. But its up to you. Don’t fall into the peer pressure. Don’t judge those who don’t deserve judging. Don’t label someone because their doing something they love. Who knows, you might just save a life.
John W. Gardner states "The creative individual has the capacity to free himself from the web of social pressures in which the rest of us are caught. He is capable of questioning the assumptions that the rest of us accept." Be the hero in the story of life and rescue society from the grips of peer pressure and social norms. If you've read this far I thank you for your time
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Haha, it's pretty nice, I'm a 6'3 emo guy that plays 40k, people can judge all they want. It really doesn't bother me.
But honestly, I would point out that most guys who go to my LGS are actually pretty average guys. There was this big army guy who went to my store and he played IG. He was an awesome guy. Also, did you know Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson used to play D&D? My point is, there are actually tons of different types of people that play these "nerdy" games and those who judge are just doing so because they can. Ya know, like how someone can troll people online just because they can. I don't pay those idiots any mind.
Well, I grew up during the time nerd was intended and thought of as a bad thing.
Teen years were in the 80's (gasp!). I keep forgetting about my "Max Headroom" avatar: pretty much gives it away. Metal head, martial arts freak, went to punk (had Mohawk!), then went to Goth, somehow became computer geek same time as D&D freak, then stayed steady at Industrial music, computer consultant, quality systems guy that still wears lots of black and has a bad tabletop miniatures habit with a side liking for Scotch.
Long story short: I had been judged and prejudiced against and proved them wrong every time by being true to myself and not pretending to be something more acceptable to others... took a long time to get good at it without the heartache and was able relax on the "confrontation" thing when people would insist I should change.
Best guy I had work for me wore black and had MANY piercings, smart as heck and a thoughtful person, was passed over many times solely on looks.
Best boss I had EVER was a Sikh, smart, kind and fantastic morals... pretty wicked humor too... impeccably matched turban to his designer clothes.
It takes all kinds to make the world go round, the sooner we accept that, suddenly we are not held back anymore and you find all kinds of cool people.
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*shrug* I get judged more for being a six foot tall ugly woman than I do for playing 40k.
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"That time I only loaded the cannon with powder. Next time, I will fill it with jewels and diamonds and they will cut you to shrebbons!" - Nogbad the Bad.
I think its different for American schoolkids as they have their groups that they have to fit into.
In the UK you have your mates usually kids with the same level of intelligence as you and general likings and nobody else really matters.
One thing i'd point out is if this is work you have to submit you may want to go through it changing your use of their when it should be they're or there.
bertmac wrote: I think its different for American schoolkids as they have their groups that they have to fit into.
In the UK you have your mates usually kids with the same level of intelligence as you and general likings and nobody else really matters.
One thing i'd point out is if this is work you have to submit you may want to go through it changing your use of their when it should be they're or there.
This is so true. That's the biggest reason why I wrote this, for all the judgmental school kids whose biggest goal in life is to be popular.
About the Their there they're, thats probably my biggest grammatical weakness. Its not even that hard to do, and I know when I should really put it, but it doesnt really go through my head as I write it. But, Im not turning it in, just reading it so
@The others, thanks for your comments. I like the parts about the famous people who did these types games also, would be great to put it.
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Mostly Plastic Crack, but I do dabble in Cardboard Cocaine.
Thanks ninjafiredragon for sharing your experiences. I think you've brought up a great topic, but need some refinement. But before I get into those, I want to share something with you. I'm a less-than-30 man with a loving wife, and I play Magic, Dungeons & Dragons, and 40k. I just want you to know that life is great, and the older I get, the more respected my hobbies become. By holding your head up high and being proud of your hobbies, you prove to others that your hobbies deserve praise and not shame. The 40k community is very well regarded here by veterans, as we host our yearly Rumble in the North tournament at the Royal Canadian Legion, and the 40k community has been very charitable during that event. Our presence is welcomed there every year. I remember the difficulty of growing up a nerd in the 90's, and let me tell you, things have only gotten better for us. Our movies are THE movies. Esports - a thing that didn't exist when I was in school - is now something gathering a larger following than some professional sports! Video games, once something only played in darkened rooms, are now played by virtually everyone on their mobile devices. And the best thing of all is that all signs point to "nerd-ism" continuing this trend towards acceptability. You might not see it yet, but be proud. That pride will help you through the difficult times others might throw at you.
Okay, now onto the critiques.
First, you need to better define your topic. While I get that you're talking about how being a nerd is a label, you're not well defining this as being what your speech is about at the beginning. Instead you jump quickly into a defensive stance, pointing out how it hurts to be prejudiced against, and then offer a quick solution. While in an essay it's very useful to lay out a synopsis of the topic in your introduction, you're trying too hard to rush the process in your current intro. Perhaps start with pointing out how prejudice exists, what it looks likes in this context, what its impact is, and how you might fix it. Save the MLK quote for the body of the essay - it's a good quote, but it's wasted in its current position.
Secondly, I think it's wrong to open up with a list of prejudices in your body. A major difference between nerd-profiling and racial-profiling is that you can't know someone's a nerd until you're already talking to them or interacting with them. A police officer might see a black man walking down the street and instantly suspect him of something, but someone can't just look at you are suspect you of being a 40k player. There is some "nerd fashion" that can cause that (the taped glasses, the dress shoes with white socks, the pens or calculator in a pocket), but I don't think that's what you're speech is about (note; I simply don't think so. Like I said, this is part of the problem of your speech - not 100% clear on the topic).
However, your next concept is great. It's not the term nerd that hurts, it's the label. It's that you know they are already thinking certain things about you the moment they use that, or any similar, term. There's a word I don't even feel comfortable saying as the "n-word" (and it's not "nerd"), but I can only imagine that it hurts not because of the word itself, but because of everything else you're communicating when you use it - hundreds of years of stereotypes, a thousand images, each worth a thousand words, all of hate. That's a powerful concept, and I wish you had explored it more during your essay rather than just going into a quote by John Green - a quote that's meant to say why being a nerd should be a source of pride, rather than embarrassment.
Overall, I like the second paragraph of your essay's body, though again, I think having a more clear topic would help you refine it better. This is the section where you need to show the real effects of the bullying behaviours that labelling someone as a nerd can do. Things like depression, suicide, and drug/alcohol abuse are all linked with gamers and "nerd culture". Teens are the most susceptible group to these problems, and high school should not be about just surviving these experiences, but rather flourishing because of your passions.
Your final paragraph goes further into the hurt this causes, but it should be going into how you can fix this. I think this is where you'd want to bring up the "switch places" idea. It's one I've used myself. My cousin, the owner of a very successful business in town, loves cars. He'd say he's a car enthusiast. I say he's a car-nerd. There's a guy I just met while playing "Hunter: The Gathering" (another D&D-type game) who I'd call a "baseball-nerd". My wife is really getting into quilting. That makes her a quilting-nerd. Anyone and everyone's a nerd about something, and it's a trend in society that IS increasing due to the widespread use of the internet. Yes, it's up to us gamers to present ourselves better (we need to be proud, and not quiet like they want us to be), but it's also up to "you" (the audience of your speech) to realize that loving anything makes you just as much a nerd, and that this is great. Our lives have been enriched by nerds through history, and you might be no different from them. Nerds like Steve Jobs (business-nerd), Bill Clinton (political-nerd), the Pope (religious-nerd), Seth McFarlene (comedy-nerd), Stanley Kubrik (film-nerd), and Neil deGrasse Tyson (science-nerd).
(Oh... and break up your paragraphs a bit more. You stuck a little too rigidly to the 1 intro, 3 body, 1 conclusion structure. It's okay to have more or less. A paragraph should only hold a single idea. Your second body paragraph could easily have been 3 paragraphs by itself! It makes it easier to read, and you'd probably score higher marks on your essay unless the teacher's very stringent on the length of these essays sticking to that structure.)
Thanks for sharing!
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Yarium wrote: Thanks ninjafiredragon for sharing your experiences. I think you've brought up a great topic, but need some refinement. But before I get into those, I want to share something with you. I'm a less-than-30 man with a loving wife, and I play Magic, Dungeons & Dragons, and 40k. I just want you to know that life is great, and the older I get, the more respected my hobbies become. By holding your head up high and being proud of your hobbies, you prove to others that your hobbies deserve praise and not shame. The 40k community is very well regarded here by veterans, as we host our yearly Rumble in the North tournament at the Royal Canadian Legion, and the 40k community has been very charitable during that event. Our presence is welcomed there every year. I remember the difficulty of growing up a nerd in the 90's, and let me tell you, things have only gotten better for us. Our movies are THE movies. Esports - a thing that didn't exist when I was in school - is now something gathering a larger following than some professional sports! Video games, once something only played in darkened rooms, are now played by virtually everyone on their mobile devices. And the best thing of all is that all signs point to "nerd-ism" continuing this trend towards acceptability. You might not see it yet, but be proud. That pride will help you through the difficult times others might throw at you.
Okay, now onto the critiques.
First, you need to better define your topic. While I get that you're talking about how being a nerd is a label, you're not well defining this as being what your speech is about at the beginning. Instead you jump quickly into a defensive stance, pointing out how it hurts to be prejudiced against, and then offer a quick solution. While in an essay it's very useful to lay out a synopsis of the topic in your introduction, you're trying too hard to rush the process in your current intro. Perhaps start with pointing out how prejudice exists, what it looks likes in this context, what its impact is, and how you might fix it. Save the MLK quote for the body of the essay - it's a good quote, but it's wasted in its current position.
Secondly, I think it's wrong to open up with a list of prejudices in your body. A major difference between nerd-profiling and racial-profiling is that you can't know someone's a nerd until you're already talking to them or interacting with them. A police officer might see a black man walking down the street and instantly suspect him of something, but someone can't just look at you are suspect you of being a 40k player. There is some "nerd fashion" that can cause that (the taped glasses, the dress shoes with white socks, the pens or calculator in a pocket), but I don't think that's what you're speech is about (note; I simply don't think so. Like I said, this is part of the problem of your speech - not 100% clear on the topic).
However, your next concept is great. It's not the term nerd that hurts, it's the label. It's that you know they are already thinking certain things about you the moment they use that, or any similar, term. There's a word I don't even feel comfortable saying as the "n-word" (and it's not "nerd"), but I can only imagine that it hurts not because of the word itself, but because of everything else you're communicating when you use it - hundreds of years of stereotypes, a thousand images, each worth a thousand words, all of hate. That's a powerful concept, and I wish you had explored it more during your essay rather than just going into a quote by John Green - a quote that's meant to say why being a nerd should be a source of pride, rather than embarrassment.
Overall, I like the second paragraph of your essay's body, though again, I think having a more clear topic would help you refine it better. This is the section where you need to show the real effects of the bullying behaviours that labelling someone as a nerd can do. Things like depression, suicide, and drug/alcohol abuse are all linked with gamers and "nerd culture". Teens are the most susceptible group to these problems, and high school should not be about just surviving these experiences, but rather flourishing because of your passions.
Your final paragraph goes further into the hurt this causes, but it should be going into how you can fix this. I think this is where you'd want to bring up the "switch places" idea. It's one I've used myself. My cousin, the owner of a very successful business in town, loves cars. He'd say he's a car enthusiast. I say he's a car-nerd. There's a guy I just met while playing "Hunter: The Gathering" (another D&D-type game) who I'd call a "baseball-nerd". My wife is really getting into quilting. That makes her a quilting-nerd. Anyone and everyone's a nerd about something, and it's a trend in society that IS increasing due to the widespread use of the internet. Yes, it's up to us gamers to present ourselves better (we need to be proud, and not quiet like they want us to be), but it's also up to "you" (the audience of your speech) to realize that loving anything makes you just as much a nerd, and that this is great. Our lives have been enriched by nerds through history, and you might be no different from them. Nerds like Steve Jobs (business-nerd), Bill Clinton (political-nerd), the Pope (religious-nerd), Seth McFarlene (comedy-nerd), Stanley Kubrik (film-nerd), and Neil deGrasse Tyson (science-nerd).
(Oh... and break up your paragraphs a bit more. You stuck a little too rigidly to the 1 intro, 3 body, 1 conclusion structure. It's okay to have more or less. A paragraph should only hold a single idea. Your second body paragraph could easily have been 3 paragraphs by itself! It makes it easier to read, and you'd probably score higher marks on your essay unless the teacher's very stringent on the length of these essays sticking to that structure.)
I agree the theme of the essay is a little unclear, and honestly I really did'nt know exactly what the cut and dry theme should be, just sort of what I wanted to write about.
It definitely could have been organized better, I think I was trying to follow the guideline above to strictly.
I really like allot of what you said and will try my best to implement these changes. Thanks for taking the time to read that monster
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