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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/30 23:52:13
Subject: Combat squads?
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Member of a Lodge? I Can't Say
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Are space marines always deployed in squads of 10? Do they ever just deploy a 5 man combat squad?
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"That's how a Luna Wolf fights."
"If you can't keep up, go and join the Death Guard"
"It had often been said that Space Marines knew no fear, but when Angron charged, he ran" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/31 00:00:09
Subject: Combat squads?
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Yes, they do.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/31 00:40:57
Subject: Re:Combat squads?
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Veteran Knight Baron in a Crusader
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The issue here is contradictory fluff. Some books describe space marines as deploying in large squads (and then them getting the snot beat out of them), and others describe them as much more elite (a squad of five taking an entire planet, for example).
So, either really.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/31 00:44:09
Subject: Combat squads?
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
Norway
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Doesn't the Space Marines have like 5 strong Devastaor-squads led by one pointless sarge armed with a chainsword telling them where to aim?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/31 02:04:49
Subject: Combat squads?
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Horrible Hekatrix With Hydra Gauntlets
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Beaviz81 wrote:Doesn't the Space Marines have like 5 strong Devastaor-squads led by one pointless sarge armed with a chainsword telling them where to aim?
Nah, fluffwise there are five equally pointless guys with bolters standing around catching bullets.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/31 02:43:47
Subject: Re:Combat squads?
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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TheManWithNoPlan wrote:The issue here is contradictory fluff. Some books describe space marines as deploying in large squads (and then them getting the snot beat out of them), and others describe them as much more elite (a squad of five taking an entire planet, for example).
So, either really.
Thats not exactly contradictory. Sometimes Marines take over planets without casualties, sometimes they face foes who can actually fight back.
5 super human warriors clad in impenetrable armor arrive on a primitive world with only black powder weapons. The Marines are literally invincible, and the populace is easily cowed to surrender to the Imperium.
In another, they happen to face enemies who have weapons capable of penetrating PA. They might take casualties now, but then again Marines are so good they might not. It really depends on the situation.
Real life special ops teams often have missions where they pull it off perfectly without a scratch. Others they take casualties. Sometimes things go your way, sometimes they don't.
Most of the time, marines are kicking ass and takings names. Most of the time they aren't facing opponents who can take them on. But the table top game doesn't represent that. It represents when they actually are facing foes that are a challenge. Situations which warrant more than a handful of marines are already very very bad situations for them to show up at all. And when things are bad int he 40k universe, they're really really bad.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/31 10:07:16
Subject: Combat squads?
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Dakka Veteran
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The answer is yes. Don't know why anyone answered anything else. There are hundreds of fluff examples
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/31 12:09:57
Subject: Combat squads?
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Member of a Lodge? I Can't Say
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Ok. I've read fluff where they deploy a Tac squad and while in the field the sergeant sends one combat squad off on a different mission while he does his own thing.
I didn't know whether you'd get one half of a tac squad attached to a strike force and the other half left on baal or something
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"That's how a Luna Wolf fights."
"If you can't keep up, go and join the Death Guard"
"It had often been said that Space Marines knew no fear, but when Angron charged, he ran" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/04 21:35:46
Subject: Combat squads?
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Squads seem to be the smallest tactical unit Space Marines prefer to deploy, but sure, they'll break up into smaller combat squads if the mission calls for it.
It's pretty much identical to the way NATO armies use squads as their smallest tactical unit, but squads are subdivided into Fire Teams. Usually Fire Teams operate in pairs = squads. But desperate times call for desperate measures.
Heck, they'll peel off individual Marines for a mission if they have to. And casualties can turn companies into a handful of desperate rogues, after all.
My two cents.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/06 14:32:03
Subject: Combat squads?
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Confessor Of Sins
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Taffy17 wrote:I didn't know whether you'd get one half of a tac squad attached to a strike force and the other half left on baal or something
I'm sure the usual way to do it is to assign the whole ten man squad to the same strike force, but they might not always deploy as one squad. The commander might have one combat squad hang back in a defensive position with the squad heavy weapon while the sarge and his four guys drive ahead to smash some enemies at closer range. Or they could have taken casualties, leaving only a combat squad left. Or they're Blood Angels and half the squad has volunteered to fill up empty slots in the Assault squads.
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