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Only have 1000 pts or so of Necrons at the moment, looking to expand to 1850, here is the prospective list, attempting to keep things competitive. I realize it's not very imaginative, but I'm finding it difficult to be both imaginative and competitive. The Decurion is so strong I see it as a must have, and as soon as you go Reclamation Legion + X things stop becoming interesting lol. I could go Reclamation + CAD and do some different whacky things, but the other formations are just too strong in my opinion, hence this list. I suppose the only things that aren't apparently understandable are the vanilla HQ's. I just don't think Necrons are that great at doing the killy HQ thing now that the CCB has been nerfed in certain ways. Sure, the Destroyer Lord can still be a beast, but he can no longer keep up with wraiths, the melee unit of choice, heck he can't even keep up with praetorians lol, though I suppose Flayed Ones are still an option. So I'm just going to stick both HQ's in a big squad of immortals and march them up the middle blasting away. I really like what I can bring to the table by foregoing the 100+ points of usual wargear taken for these guys that may or may not get used much, not to mention the abysmal base initiatives.


Decurion Detachment


Reclamation Legion

Overlord (immortals)

10x Immortals w/ Gauss Blasters

10x Warriors
Ghost Ark

10x Warriors
Ghost Ark

4x Tomb Blades w/ Shield Vanes, Nebuloscopes & Particle Beamers

4x Tomb Blades w/ Shield Vanes, Nebuloscopes & Particle Beamers


Canoptek Harvest

1x Canoptek Scarabs w/ 3x Bases

2x Canoptek Spyders

6x Wraiths w/ Whip Coils


Destroyer Cult

Destroyer Lord (Immortals)

3x Destroyers (1x Heavy Destroyer)

3x Destroyers (1x Heavy Destroyer)

3x Destroyers (1x Heavy Destroyer)

Lists looks solid. I agree, not a ton of Necron innovation going on because the Decurion is so good. The harvest and the cult are usually considered the strongest, so no complaints about making that choice, but the other detachments are also strong, you could try them out. I really like the Judicator Battalion and Annihilation Nexus Myself.

Love the judicator, not a fan of the nexus. I'm also considering focusing most of the points in the reclamation and putting the immortals in a nightscythe with maybe one more nightscythe unit as well.

I'd cut out 5 tomb blades and both ghost arks and get some other fun toys.

Probably the five immortals too.

If I cut the five immortals then I'd just cut two tomb blades

Ghost arks are one of the dex's stand out units, I'm surprised you would cut them.

You can't run 2 Spyders in the Harvest, the formation calls for 1 specifically.

Using the Destroyer Lord to give Preferred Enemy to the Immortals is not a bad choice, but I find I get more milage out of mine if I use it as a Distraction Carnifex/suicide bomber to go after big enemy things with Voidreaper. I would humbly suggest taking the points from that dropped Spyder to deck out the Des Lord.

wancourb070386@yahoo.com wrote:
You can't run 2 Spyders in the Harvest, the formation calls for 1 specifically.

Using the Destroyer Lord to give Preferred Enemy to the Immortals is not a bad choice, but I find I get more milage out of mine if I use it as a Distraction Carnifex/suicide bomber to go after big enemy things with Voidreaper. I would humbly suggest taking the points from that dropped Spyder to deck out the Des Lord.

A unit of spyders is 1 spyder. I disagree with your interpretation because in the restrictions it says "none" any time there are unit size restrictions they are stated there

wancourb070386@yahoo.com wrote:
You can't run 2 Spyders in the Harvest, the formation calls for 1 specifically.

That's not correct. The Canoptek Harvest is a formation like any other. The Canoptek Harvest is a grouping of units with beginning initial unit sizes. You have a unit of 1 spyder, a unit of scarabs, and a unit of wraiths in the Canoptek Harvest formation.

Just like you can add additional scarabs or wraiths to the formation you can add additional spyders. The ability to add additional spyders is on the army entry list and the Canoptek Harvest formation has 'no restrictions'

Anyway you have a solid base

Thanks a lot, I have two other lists that I'm contemplating at 1850, both kind of moving in the same direction, one slightly, the other completely in the other direction. The first drops the cult for more warrior/ark durability and adds some flyers, the second goes full foot force maximizing reanimation and durability, it's literally designed to be near impossible to kill lol. here they are in that order:


Decurion Detachment


Reclamation Legion

Overlord (immortals)

5x Immortals w/ Gauss Blasters
Night Scythe

5x Immortals w/ Gauss Blasters
Night Scythe

10x Warriors
Ghost Ark

10x Warriors
Ghost Ark

10x Warriors
Ghost Ark

4x Tomb Blades w/ Shield Vanes, Nebuloscopes & Particle Beamers

4x Tomb Blades w/ Shield Vanes, Nebuloscopes & Particle Beamers


Canoptek Harvest

1x Canoptek Scarabs w/ 3x Bases

2x Canoptek Spyders

6x Wraiths w/ Whip Coils


Decurion Detachment


Reclamation Legion

Overlord w/ Warscythe (Lychguard)

10x Lychguard w/ Hyperphase Swords & Dispersion Shields

10x Immortals w/ Gauss Blasters

20x Warriors
Ghost Ark

20x Warriors
Ghost Ark

20x Warriors
Ghost Ark

3x Tomb Blades (Reserve)


Flayed Ones

10x Flayed ones

col_impact wrote:

wancourb070386@yahoo.com wrote:
You can't run 2 Spyders in the Harvest, the formation calls for 1 specifically.

That's not correct. The Canoptek Harvest is a formation like any other. The Canoptek Harvest is a grouping of units with beginning initial unit sizes. You have a unit of 1 spyder, a unit of scarabs, and a unit of wraiths in the Canoptek Harvest formation.

Just like you can add additional scarabs or wraiths to the formation you can add additional spyders. The ability to add additional spyders is on the army entry list and the Canoptek Harvest formation has 'no restrictions'

As stated elsewhere: you are wrong with that.
The formation clearly states that it is composed off stuff + one Spyder. Its "Spyder" - not "SpyderS" (plural). Only simple "Spyder". And you have posted the BRB entry to formations yourselfe often enough to know what this means: we have to find an army entry list named "Spyder" to include it in our formation.
Lets find taht army entry list titled "Spyder" - oh wait, there is only one for SpyderS. None for "Spyder". (can you follow me so faar?)
This means: we cant take the required Spyder thus we cant take the Harvest at all. Per the formations part of the BRB.

What? We have a formation we cant take? Are you shure? - Well no. There is one way around this. The BRB says "a formation just states the models it is composed off" (or similar) and the mentioned Spyder is indeed one MODEL. Not a unit, a single model. Now let us look at page 64 of our necron codex (i hope my german version has the same page numbers like the english one. If not im talking about the page about data sheets). There we see a break down of the content of every data sheet. It contains the units name (e.g. "Canoptek Spyders" pg.93) on top of the sheet, and a profile for the models contained in the unit. This is where we find the profile for the model "Spyder" which we where told to use within the the Harves formation. Then we have point 11: Options: (translated "this part lists all options a unit can take". it says Unit. Options are something for units. Thus we are not allowed to purchase any upgrades for our sinlge spyder we took for the formation - including the other spyders. (this is my interpretation - propably you can argue that the wording for the weapon upgrades "every model can take XY" overrides that - but i gues thats RaI not RaW).

TL;DR:
You cant take a unit named Spyders (there is none) you only can take a single model called Spyder and this model is not a unit of spyders thus you cant upgrade it with more spyders.

its 1 spyder, because the rules as written say 1 spyder, not a unit of spyders.

you will also have a hard time finding any tournament that rules otherwise. If your friends and you rule otherwise that's cool.

Solid list overall, I would drop the heavy destroyers from the destroyer units, they just don't have the same target priority.

theProgramm wrote:

col_impact wrote:

wancourb070386@yahoo.com wrote:
You can't run 2 Spyders in the Harvest, the formation calls for 1 specifically.

That's not correct. The Canoptek Harvest is a formation like any other. The Canoptek Harvest is a grouping of units with beginning initial unit sizes. You have a unit of 1 spyder, a unit of scarabs, and a unit of wraiths in the Canoptek Harvest formation.

Just like you can add additional scarabs or wraiths to the formation you can add additional spyders. The ability to add additional spyders is on the army entry list and the Canoptek Harvest formation has 'no restrictions'

As stated elsewhere: you are wrong with that.
The formation clearly states that it is composed off stuff + one Spyder. Its "Spyder" - not "SpyderS" (plural). Only simple "Spyder". And you have posted the BRB entry to formations yourselfe often enough to know what this means: we have to find an army entry list named "Spyder" to include it in our formation.
Lets find taht army entry list titled "Spyder" - oh wait, there is only one for SpyderS. None for "Spyder". (can you follow me so faar?)
This means: we cant take the required Spyder thus we cant take the Harvest at all. Per the formations part of the BRB.

What? We have a formation we cant take? Are you shure? - Well no. There is one way around this. The BRB says "a formation just states the models it is composed off" (or similar) and the mentioned Spyder is indeed one MODEL. Not a unit, a single model. Now let us look at page 64 of our necron codex (i hope my german version has the same page numbers like the english one. If not im talking about the page about data sheets). There we see a break down of the content of every data sheet. It contains the units name (e.g. "Canoptek Spyders" pg.93) on top of the sheet, and a profile for the models contained in the unit. This is where we find the profile for the model "Spyder" which we where told to use within the the Harves formation. Then we have point 11: Options: (translated "this part lists all options a unit can take". it says Unit. Options are something for units. Thus we are not allowed to purchase any upgrades for our sinlge spyder we took for the formation - including the other spyders. (this is my interpretation - propably you can argue that the wording for the weapon upgrades "every model can take XY" overrides that - but i gues thats RaI not RaW).

TL;DR:
You cant take a unit named Spyders (there is none) you only can take a single model called Spyder and this model is not a unit of spyders thus you cant upgrade it with more spyders.

The portion of your argument in red quoted above is entirely false and with a false premise your whole argument is invalid. The BRB tells us that formations are a 'grouping of units' and that you have full access to their ALE.

This means that the '1 canoptek spyder' is actually '[a unit of] 1 canoptek spyder' and since I have full access to the ALE and the formation lists no restrictions I have full permission to add additional spyders just as easily as I can add fabricator claws.

Guys please keep the discussion here limited to commenting on the list. Rules discussions belong in YMDC. Thanks!

Before you play this at a tournament, check and see what the TO thinks about how many Spyders you can take. I wouldn't care to play against this in a puck up game since I believe it's an illegal list. If your gaming group disagrees, then who cares. Have fun rolling dice.

I run a similar list with a Decurion, Canoptek Harvest, and a Destroyer Cult. My list features Zahndrekh and a Destroyer Lord attached to 20 Warriors. It's cumbersome, but the list is so hard to kill it's worth it. I love it when a unit of 3 Destroyers ties up a unit 3x its point value for a turn or two which giving me valuable time. Their best moment was 3 Destroyers tieing up 3 crisis suits, a unit of kroot, and a riptide for 3 turns/6 assault phases until the game ended.

I'm a fan of the justicar batallion with the destroyer cult because bs5 destroyers is just too good. Kitting out the destroyer lord isn't a bad option with him since he'll be your only melee with an invuln on the feild. You trade tarpit for killing power, but so much killing power. Best to find the points for more than 1 stalker since a single one is so easy to kill.