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http://abcnews.go.com/ABCNews/exclusive-undercover-dhs-tests-find-widespread-security-failures/story?id=31434881

An internal investigation of the Transportation Security Administration revealed security failures at dozens of the nation’s busiest airports, where undercover investigators were able to smuggle mock explosives or banned weapons through checkpoints in 95 percent of trials, ABC News has learned.

The series of tests were conducted by Homeland Security Red Teams who pose as passengers, setting out to beat the system.

According to officials briefed on the results of a recent Homeland Security Inspector General’s report, TSA agents failed 67 out of 70 tests, with Red Team members repeatedly able to get potential weapons through checkpoints.

In one test an undercover agent was stopped after setting off an alarm at a magnetometer, but TSA screeners failed to detect a fake explosive device that was taped to his back during a follow-on pat down.
Officials would not divulge the exact time period of the testing other than to say it concluded recently.

Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson was apparently so frustrated by the findings he sought a detailed briefing on them last week at TSA headquarters in Arlington, Virginia, according to sources. U.S. officials insisted changes have already been made at airports to address vulnerabilities identified by the latest tests.

“Upon learning the initial findings of the Office of Inspector General's report, Secretary Johnson immediately directed TSA to implement a series of actions, several of which are now in place, to address the issues raised in the report,” the DHS said in a written statement to ABC News.

Homeland security officials insist that security at the nation’s airports is strong – that there are layers of security including bomb sniffing dogs and other technologies seen and unseen. But the officials that ABC News spoke to admit these were disappointing results.

This is not the first time the TSA has had trouble spotting Red Team agents. A similar episode played out in 2013, when an undercover investigator with a fake bomb hidden on his body passed through a metal detector, went through a pat-down at New Jersey's Newark Liberty Airport, and was never caught.

At the time, the TSA said Red Team tests occurred weekly all over the United States and were meant to “push the boundaries of our people, processes, and technology.”

“We know that the adversary innovates and we have to push ourselves to capacity in order to remain one step ahead,” a TSA official wrote on the agency’s blog in March 2013. “[O]ur testers often make these covert tests as difficult as possible.”

In a 2013 hearing on Capitol Hill, then-TSA administrator John Pistole, described the Red Team as “super terrorists,” who know precisely which weaknesses to exploit.

“[Testers] know exactly what our protocols are. They can create and devise and conceal items that … not even the best terrorists would be able to do,” Pistole told lawmakers at a House hearing.

More recently, the DHS inspector general’s office concluded a series of undercover tests targeting checked baggage screening at airports across the country.

That review found “vulnerabilities” throughout the system, attributing them to human error and technological failures, according to a three-paragraph summary of the review released in September.

In addition, the review determined that despite spending $540 million for checked baggage screening equipment and another $11 million for training since a previous review in 2009, the TSA failed to make any noticeable improvements in that time.


95% failure rate, millions $ spent with no describable effect. How do we reform the TSA?

 
   
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 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
95% failure rate, millions $ spent with no describable effect. How do we reform the TSA?


I get my balls juggled and fondled by TSA agents each time I fly, normally I'd have to pay extra for that. So it's money well spent
   
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TSA needs to get removed

Might as well pass it off on contractors.

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I've even accidentally smuggled pocketknives onto planes before. TSA is only at about a 50% success rate for finding the knives I forgot I left in a pocket of a pair of pants I stuffed in my carry-on.

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They can't stop people from bring knives and guns on planes, but they'll pull a bottle of 'personal lubricant' out of my wife's carry-on in front of everyone because it's over the arbitrary fluid-per-container limit... go figure.

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5% of the time, they foil terrorism every time...

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The TSA is nothing more than security theater.

   
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Remember when there was serious talk of the US Military were to provide airport security but someone "brain fart" cleared and decided against it

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 Jihadin wrote:
Remember when there was serious talk of the US Military were to provide airport security but someone "brain fart" cleared and decided against it


Some National Guard units actually did provide airport security right after 9/11.

   
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How many of these "Red Team" agents are brown? About 5%?

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This doesn't surprise me at all. If you hire low quality personnel, you get low quality results. Have you traveled recently? Have you gotten a good look a TSA agents? They aren't what I would call "motivated thinkers."

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 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
millions $ spent with no describable effect.


Nonsense. The TSA does a great job of reminding people that there are Bad People out there that we should be afraid of, and so the government should be allowed to do whatever is necessary to stop the Bad People. Catching people in airports is just a nice side bonus, if it ever happens.

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 Peregrine wrote:
 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
millions $ spent with no describable effect.


Nonsense. The TSA does a great job of reminding people that there are Bad People out there that we should be afraid of, and so the government should be allowed to do whatever is necessary to stop the Bad People. Catching people in airports is just a nice side bonus, if it ever happens.


Exactly. Government can fondle your balls because terrorism.

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Exactly. Government can fondle your balls because terrorism.

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 DarkLink wrote:
I've even accidentally smuggled pocketknives onto planes before. TSA is only at about a 50% success rate for finding the knives I forgot I left in a pocket of a pair of pants I stuffed in my carry-on.


I once accidentally carried a camping multi tool through security at IAH. This had a six blade, screwdriver SAW BLADE etc. yea...

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 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
How do we reform the TSA?

Replace each TSA agent with a brick. Nineteen times out of twenty this brick will be just as effective in stopping terrorism while demanding no salary, stealing no luggage and sexually assaulting no passengers.

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I traveled with an exacto knife without them even seeing it, and my roommate accidentally carried a live shell on the plane 6 times before somebody finally spotted it, because it was in a deep recess of his bag that he forgot all about. So yeah...TSA sucks.

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Dreadclaw69 - what do you think about this?

Do you think it will change your travel plans?

Will you be taking more buses and trains now?
   
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 timetowaste85 wrote:
I traveled with an exacto knife without them even seeing it, and my roommate accidentally carried a live shell on the plane 6 times before somebody finally spotted it, because it was in a deep recess of his bag that he forgot all about. So yeah...TSA sucks.

And yet I got pulled into a room because there was a void in my shorts from where the draw string was

 
   
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 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
How do we reform the TSA?


Focus on explosives and firearms, hire more people, and don't give preferential treatment to first class passengers or military ones.

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 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
 timetowaste85 wrote:
I traveled with an exacto knife without them even seeing it, and my roommate accidentally carried a live shell on the plane 6 times before somebody finally spotted it, because it was in a deep recess of his bag that he forgot all about. So yeah...TSA sucks.

And yet I got pulled into a room because there was a void in my shorts from where the draw string was


TSA loves exploring voids in your shorts.

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 Alex C wrote:
 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
 timetowaste85 wrote:
I traveled with an exacto knife without them even seeing it, and my roommate accidentally carried a live shell on the plane 6 times before somebody finally spotted it, because it was in a deep recess of his bag that he forgot all about. So yeah...TSA sucks.

And yet I got pulled into a room because there was a void in my shorts from where the draw string was


TSA loves exploring voids in your shorts.


I've never been searched. Boy have I been missing out. But hey who wants to hand search what appears to be a bipodal fat bear with mange and bad breath?

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My wife recently travelled to Connecticut for a graduation ceremony for her sister. Each flight had a layover, and she was searched twice before boarding, both there and back, each time because her carry-on was packed too well. She doesn't like to check her baggage so she just packs her carryone very neatly with no wasted space, and they dont like this.

The only logical conclusion we can draw from her experience is TSA is anti-efficiency, which sounds about right for most Government agencies.
   
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Ought to have seen the conniption TSA had when we started using Atlanta International Airport to transition to Iraq or Afghanistan. A bomb dog went nuts when a EOD unit transition back into the US from Iraq.

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It was pretty disheartening to read what the guy responsible for airport security at Ben Gurion in Israel thought about the TSA. The Israeli don't close the airport for a suspicious object, they have bomb techs in the house that handle it immediately. And they look at the thing as a whole - why try to get a bomb on a plane when there's a perfectly good crowd standing in line? They also drill once a week or so compared to the twice a year for TSA. At any time there's probably well over half the staff who have no idea about what to actually do in an emergency
   
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well it sounds like the TSA is looking for a new head at least

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/06/01/politics/tsa-failed-undercover-airport-screening-tests/

although they don't say where he was moved to (hopefully not one of these jobs they invent with higher salarys to house useless but unfireable idiots to)

 
   
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 Frazzled wrote:
I've never been searched. Boy have I been missing out. But hey who wants to hand search what appears to be a bipodal fat bear with mange and bad breath?

I have an honest face Flight to Spain, walking through customs and I'm the only person pulled aside from the entire plane

 
   
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As a member of the military, it's customary to have the random searches waived for me. Usually TSA will just send us right through without even hitting the scanner.

I did have one occasion where I got searched. There was an issue with our tickets, the machine couldn't find them, so I needed the lady at the counter to help us out. She got so pissed off that I had her do some work. She was a bitch the entire time, and then when I got popped for the random pull to the side and do the full inspection, she didn't wave it.

TSA agents spent the whole time apologizing profusely, I was like the first military member they ever did.

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