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Screaming Shining Spear






I conceived this list when considering the notion of simply maximizing what the Necrons do best, attrition. They have a number of flashy and high powered formations that I've used and we all know and love, canoptek harvest, destroyer cult, they are unarguably good - but I wanted to go in a different direction. Despite how good some of the high powered units are, are they truly better than the raw power of necrons refusing to die and pushing there gauss rule as far as they will go? Hence this creation. All on foot minus the tomb blades kept in reserve for late game objectives. At first glance it may look too vanilla, too simple, not enough specialization, what about knights, what about flyers etc. That's just the beauty of gauss + high rate of fire, much like the necrons refusal to die, gauss just refuses to let anything live, eventually it will go down, and a list like this has the durability to see it through, I believe. Relentless and Move Through Cover from Reclamation is exactly what a foot force is looking for to keep them plowing forward into the 24" kill zone. 60 warriors with a 4+ RP rerolling 1's with 3 ghost arks regenerating is going to present a conundrum to most every list. And while you're opponent is scratching his head figuring the math on what it will take to grind through them, the Overlord tucked into 10 lychguard are sitting on 3+ invul 4+ RP asking "what do you plan to do with us." I just don't have the models to field this unfortunately, but I'm going to proxy it best I can and see what it can do, I think it has real potential. The only thing I'm debating is cutting either some of the flayed ones, or some of the immortals to give the Overlord a phase shifter and maybe a Res orb. But I like the idea of 10 immortals parking on the objective in my deployment and providing very durable defense, and I also think 10 flayed ones is the right number to reliably get into the opponents front line and properly disrupt them while I move up. And given the durability of the unit he is with, I just don't see the Overlord really needing either pieces of wargear.




Decurion Detachment


Reclamation Legion


Overlord w/ Warscythe (Lychguard)

10x Lychguard w/ Hyperphase Swords & Dispersion Shields

10x Immortals w/ Gauss Blasters

20x Warriors
Ghost Ark

20x Warriors
Ghost Ark

20x Warriors
Ghost Ark

3x Tomb Blades (Reserve)


Flayed Ones

10x Flayed ones

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/06/03 23:42:14


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I've yet to see a bad list of Necrons and I'd say the same about this.

I like the high model count idea too and have started to play this way although I do think the Canoptek Harvest has its own merit. That said I've had some devastating results using my Flayed ones. I'd potentially drop some more warriors to field more flayed ones to help in the CC front if you dont want to run a canoptek
   
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Yeah I was contemplating switching the Lychguard to warscythes to make them way more killy, then with the extra points picking up 4 more flayed ones to shore up the CC a little. But the way I see it it's kind of a psychological game. If I make the Lychguard more potent offensively and less durable it's really begging the opponent to put a huge target priority on them. By keeping them with all thunder shields essentially I think you greatly deter the opponents will to try and take them on, and all that str 5 ap 3 is still going to get its points back I think.

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If you're playing durability, then keep the Lychguard with the shields. With 3++, 4+ reanimation with rerolling 1s, they will stick around.
   
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Yeah that's my thought, and I think this list really epitomizes durability. What would make it really insane is all the current benefits plus ObSec, but that would just be completely over the top.

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Actually, this is a list that could survive as a CAD. If you can find the points for a few crypteks, you'd be able to recover the same 4+ RP rolls and have your ObSec. I haven't run through it, so I don't really know if it's doable, but it'd be worth looking into.

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Yeah I considered that, problem is the crypteks are HQ choices, so two max in a CAD.

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If you consider that there would be 3 ghost arks providing replenishment for your warrior squads, you could stick the single cryptek in with the immortals to buff their survival and it may even out in the end. Just a thought.

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It could work.

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How about making the warriors 6 10 mans instead?

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Wicked Canoptek Wraith






for the sake of MSU, 6 squads makes sense, but it makes it harder to sustain the squads via ghost arks when they're split up since it's easier to wipe out a squad and each ark can only affect 1 squad at a time.

Strategically, it's probably better to have the 6 squads, but looking at it from a pure survival point of view, 3 squads of 20 may be stronger.

edit: obviously they're not more capable of surviving against strong melee units since they'll all get wrecked anyway, but against heavy firepower, they'll probably last longer.

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A Melee unit costs you a 20 man unit though. With the survivabilty of decirion you can just target the most damaged unit to heal

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 Icelord wrote:
A Melee unit costs you a 20 man unit though. With the survivabilty of decirion you can just target the most damaged unit to heal


Right, I did acknowledge that it becomes weak to melee. I think you meant with MSU not Decurion, but point taken either way. With larger units, you risk losing more models to fewer melee units but gain advantage over heavy shooting armies due to easier squad replenishment. It's probably more worth it to prioritize strategy and go for MSU knowing that targeting more units in each shooting phase and being able to take more objectives may end up paying out more in the end.

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Yeah, at the time I was just considering 3 units with 3 arks replenishing, but of course 6 units gives you much more resiliency to melee tarpits and gives you flexibility for objectives. Luckily it's one of those "cosmetic" changes that can be made without affecting points or the list in any way.

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I like 6 units of 10 with three in and three out at first
   
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jakejackjake wrote:
I like 6 units of 10 with three in and three out at first


This is probably your strongest and most TAC formula. You'll be more versatile and able to start with fewer target-able models on the table, plus you'll still get to replenish the 3 foot slogging units with their escorts.

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That's what I was trying to recommend! Use th 3 units on foot to block enemy melta range and advance while firing.

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 Icelord wrote:
That's what I was trying to recommend! Use th 3 units on foot to block enemy melta range and advance while firing.


Sorry, I didn't realize you meant have 3 units inside of the arks (although now that I think about it, I'm not sure why I didn't realize that, lol). At any rate, good plan.

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Lol. I wasn't clear I suppose. It's much better

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Agreed.


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Reclamation Legion

Overlord w/ Warscythe (Lychguard)

10x Lychguard w/ Hyperphase Swords & Dispersion Shields

10x Immortals w/ Gauss Blasters

10x Warriors
Ghost Ark

10x Warriors
Ghost Ark

10x Warriors
Ghost Ark

10x Warriors

10x Warriors

10x Warriors

3x Tomb Blades (Reserve)


Flayed Ones


10x Flayed ones

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/06/05 22:56:45


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