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So, I was answering a question in another thread, when I started thinking about the barricades that you can purchase with various fortifications. The stronghold assault book says you can purchase up to 6 sections of "Obstacles" if you're given permission to purchase obstacles. These can be up to 6" in length, but it doesn't say how thick they can be. It also doesn't really define them well, insofar as what would constitute a barricade.

That said, would most players be OK with a wall of tethered barrels/drums as a barricade? And if so, what thickness would be acceptable, do you think? I was thinking about using something like this:



But the rules say it has to be fully within 6 inches of the fortification. That said, because the barrels are considered terrain and there is no thickness limitation on the barrels, You could place the sections of aegis on top of the barrels for a double-tall wall, which would serve a number of purposes:

1. Would provide cover save to larger MCs/vehicles.
2. Would give models who could stand on the barrels behind the wall elevation to fire over the heads of friendly models without giving your opponent a free cover save.

Thoughts?

I'm not sure how much obstacles cost points-wise, but it seems like a waste if you already have an aegis.
And if it's walled up high wouldn't it be like a 4+ cover (or whatever it's save is) for both sides like a piece of terrain would?

As long as they are not painted red

But really if you are gaming for double height ADL then id probably pack up instantly.

They have 2 official sets for obstacles, its just OOP. One being IG and the other Orky.

Here is my IG set with 1 section missing:

 Desubot wrote:
As long as they are not painted red

But really if you are gaming for double height ADL then id probably pack up instantly.

Yeah, this is something I'd be thinking of doing for tournament play in a competitive environment. So, I don't think my opponent "Packing up" would be much of a concern. So far, I've never seen a tournament that has rules that would stop you from putting your Aegis on top of your Barricade. That's why I'm making the post. Just trying to find out if there has been a precedent somewhere.

 Big Mac wrote:
They have 2 official sets for obstacles, its just OOP. One being IG and the other Orky.

Here is my IG set with 1 section missing:

Yup. I've got this one AND the ork set. Official barricades. There are other companies that do similar things as well as alternate aegis defence line type of barricades.
Not to mention trenches similar to the wall of martyrs but not entirely decorated in skulls and corpses.

http://shop.microartstudio.com/future-terrain-c-21_41.html

Selection of barricades for different races.

 Wulfmar wrote:
http://shop.microartstudio.com/future-terrain-c-21_41.html

Selection of barricades for different races.

Yeah, these aren't official, but my idea would be similar in thickness to the first one listed there: The cargo crates stacks.

I’d have to look at the SA book again, but aren’t there rules about placing terrain within a certain distance of each other? I’d also look for something allowing you to stack, as I don’t think that come up often, so might be prohibited.

As for using barrels are obstacles, that looks fine for me. 6” by about an inch strikes me as a good size, and close to official examples.

 Nevelon wrote:
I’d have to look at the SA book again, but aren’t there rules about placing terrain within a certain distance of each other? I’d also look for something allowing you to stack, as I don’t think that come up often, so might be prohibited.

As for using barrels are obstacles, that looks fine for me. 6” by about an inch strikes me as a good size, and close to official examples.

There was something about general terrain being placed a certain distance from one another, but I think that was only for 6th edition, and was just a general guideline, not regarding fortifications. Either way, "Open Ground" is considered terrain, so if you couldn't put anything on top of other terrain, or within a certain distance of other terrain, you wouldn't be able to put anything anywhere. Further, I've played in plenty of places that had things like mountains, hills, and plateaus that took up so much room that you'd be hard pressed to put your ADL down at all if you couldn't put it on the plateau.