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Wicked Canoptek Wraith






Hey guys, I'm looking for some thoughts on this list I came up with. I like the idea of using a large amount of diversity in lists while still having access to some of those core "competitive" units (harvest). I decided to forgo the Ghost Arks to favor the variety, but I'd love to see some opinions.

+ Core (785pts) +

Reclamation Legion (785pts)
····Immortals [Night Scythe]
········8x Immortal [8x Gauss Blaster]
····Overlord [The Nightmare Shroud, Voidblade]
····Tomb Blades
········Tomb Blade [Nebuloscope, Particle Beamer, Shield Vanes]
········Tomb Blade [Nebuloscope, Particle Beamer, Shield Vanes]
········Tomb Blade [Nebuloscope, Particle Beamer, Shield Vanes]
····Tomb Blades
········Tomb Blade [Nebuloscope, Particle Beamer, Shield Vanes]
········Tomb Blade [Nebuloscope, Particle Beamer, Shield Vanes]
········Tomb Blade [Nebuloscope, Particle Beamer, Shield Vanes]
····Warriors [10x Necron Warrior]
····Warriors [10x Necron Warrior]

+ Auxiliary (1065pts) +

Annihilation Nexus (410pts) [Doomsday Ark]
····Annihilation Barge [Tesla Cannon]
····Annihilation Barge [Tesla Cannon]

Canoptek Harvest (240pts)
····Canoptek Scarabs [3x Canoptek Scarab]
····Canoptek Spyders
········Canoptek Spyder [Gloom Prism]
····Canoptek Wraiths [Canoptek Wraith, Canoptek Wraith, Canoptek Wraith]

Judicator Battalion (415pts)
····Triarch Praetorians
········5x Triarch Praetorian [5x Voidblade & Particle Caster]
····Triarch Praetorians
········5x Triarch Praetorian [5x Rod of Covenant]
····Triarch Stalkers
········Triarch Stalker [Twin-Linked Heavy Gauss Cannon]


Let me know what you guys think, I think it has some potential as a semi-competitive build, not for official tournaments, but for a home-brew campaign my local group will be playing.

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Fredericksburg, Virginia

You can't give 2 relics to the same character IRC.

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As Zimko says only 1 relic. Also the Nexus is generally considered one of the weakest auxillary choices. It can work in an AV13 spam army but that's not what you've got here. So I would replace it with a second Harvest and Ghostarks for both warrior units. This means finding 40 points so dropping a relic and then an Immortal or 2 gets you there.

The Harvest suits your list better adding target saturation to your first Harvest and giving you 2 tarpits that your Praetorians can follow up into.

Also go Rod all day everyday on the Praetorians.

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Fredericksburg, Virginia

I understand you want diversity. So as an alternate to the Nexus or another Harvest, you could try a Destroyer Cult. It will fit with the other two Aux choice but just barely. You'll have to cut a unit of Tomb Blades and all the extra Immortals.

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Zimko wrote:You can't give 2 relics to the same character IRC.


FlingitNow wrote:As Zimko says only 1 relic. Also the Nexus is generally considered one of the weakest auxillary choices. It can work in an AV13 spam army but that's not what you've got here. So I would replace it with a second Harvest and Ghostarks for both warrior units. This means finding 40 points so dropping a relic and then an Immortal or 2 gets you there.

The Harvest suits your list better adding target saturation to your first Harvest and giving you 2 tarpits that your Praetorians can follow up into.

Also go Rod all day everyday on the Praetorians.


I don't have two relics on my overlord, I have a VoidBLADE, not Voidreaper, which is not a relic, just a melee weapon.

I pretty much chose all of my options based on models that I have (i do have the cult building in progress) which is why i went with 5 voidblade + particle caster praetorians and 5 w/ rod (there's a fething long discussion about the Rods, plus sometimes larger numbers of attacks even at worse AP is a more valuable trade-off, e.g. eldar guardian squads). I don't want to run two harvests basically because it's cheese. I know it's standard tournament practice, but this isn't a tournament, so I won't be going that far. I might be interested in the Destroyer cult, but I find that the nexus is fun to play. Dropping it for Ghost Arks isn't a bad idea, but I was going for something less main stream but still viable. Maybe I'm mistaken as to how viable the nexus really is though. Thoughts?

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Fredericksburg, Virginia

Oh, sorry I never seen someone give an Overlord a voidblade and I read it as a voidreaper. That's an unusual choice for an Overlord. I would buy a Phase Shifter before buying the Nightmare Shroud. Without an invulnerable save he'll get challenged and donkey punched by a power fist.

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Zimko wrote:
Oh, sorry I never seen someone give an Overlord a voidblade and I read it as a voidreaper. That's an unusual choice for an Overlord. I would buy a Phase Shifter before buying the Nightmare Shroud. Without an invulnerable save he'll get challenged and donkey punched by a power fist.


Yea, the biggest concern was that they'll be pummeled by shooting first, and he'd be able to soak a bunch of wounds, and the fear test might help save them some trouble in whatever ensuing assault they get into. Obviously that's a long shot, but the voidblade was just there to give him a chance at killing those tougher models.

I'm testing a build w/ some changes based on what you guys said right now and I'll post that list here once I'm done with a trial build. I definitely liked the feed back though, so thanks!


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Okay, here's a revised list (read: new) with a Destroyer Cult:

+ Core (594pts) +

Reclamation Legion (594pts)
····Immortals
········5x Immortal [5x Gauss Blaster]
····Overlord [Phase Shifter, Staff of Light]
····Tomb Blades
········Tomb Blade [Nebuloscope, Particle Beamer, Shield Vanes]
········Tomb Blade [Nebuloscope, Particle Beamer, Shield Vanes]
········Tomb Blade [Nebuloscope, Particle Beamer, Shield Vanes]
····Tomb Blades
········Tomb Blade [Nebuloscope, Particle Beamer, Shield Vanes]
········Tomb Blade [Nebuloscope, Particle Beamer, Shield Vanes]
········Tomb Blade [Nebuloscope, Particle Beamer, Shield Vanes]
····Warriors [10x Necron Warrior]
····Warriors [10x Necron Warrior]

+ Auxiliary (1255pts) +

Canoptek Harvest (245pts)
····Canoptek Scarabs [3x Canoptek Scarab]
····Canoptek Spyders
········Canoptek Spyder [Fabricator Claw Array, Gloom Prism]
····Canoptek Wraiths [Canoptek Wraith, Canoptek Wraith, Canoptek Wraith]

Destroyer Cult (595pts)
····Destroyer Lord [Phase Shifter, Phylactery, The Nightmare Shroud, Warscythe]
····Destroyers [2x Destroyer, Heavy Destroyer]
····Destroyers [2x Destroyer, Heavy Destroyer]
····Destroyers [2x Destroyer, Heavy Destroyer]

Judicator Battalion (415pts)
····Triarch Praetorians
········5x Triarch Praetorian [5x Voidblade & Particle Caster]
····Triarch Praetorians
········5x Triarch Praetorian [5x Rod of Covenant]
····Triarch Stalkers
········Triarch Stalker [Twin-Linked Heavy Gauss Cannon]

I'm mixing the heavy destroyers in for a couple of reasons. First, I don't have points for a separate squad of them, and second, I've read on here that it actually has a higher kill potential to point cost ratio than taking a separate squad of 3 Heavy Destroyers along side those 3 Destroyer squads (I can't find the post, but take it for what it is I guess). Again, Praetorians are split like that based on my models.

I removed the Night Scythe in favor of keeping the Tomb Blades as well as being able to kit the Destroyer Lord nicely (he'll be the warlord), but please tell me if that seems overly ambitious.

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