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Hello Dakka Dakka friends,
Sorry if this has already been posted, but I couldn't find it.
It's not much of a big deal, but in the new Space Marine Codex, Terminators are 35pts, while in the Blood Angel Codex they are 40pts. Vanguard power weapons are 5pts in the Space Marine Codex, while they're 15pts in the Bangel Codex.

Just seems like a middle finger to Blood Angels when they had only just brought the points back to being balanced. Any thoughts?

Cheers

This is just the Way of Things for whatever the first SM codex is released in a given codex cycle. Whoever that is (it was Dark Angels last time) gets the shaft.

Tiberius501 wrote:
Hello Dakka Dakka friends,
Sorry if this has already been posted, but I couldn't find it.
It's not much of a big deal, but in the new Space Marine Codex, Terminators are 35pts, while in the Blood Angel Codex they are 40pts. Vanguard power weapons are 5pts in the Space Marine Codex, while they're 15pts in the Bangel Codex.

Just seems like a middle finger to Blood Angels when they had only just brought the points back to being balanced. Any thoughts?

Cheers

Yes, it's a middle finger to Blood Angels. That's what you get for not following your spiritual liege.

On the other hand, the points are now closer to being balanced. 35pt Terminators are much closer to being balanced than 40pt Terminators, just as paying 15pts for power weapons when you can take Honour Guard instead is completely pointless.

 -Shrike- wrote:

Tiberius501 wrote:
Hello Dakka Dakka friends,
Sorry if this has already been posted, but I couldn't find it.
It's not much of a big deal, but in the new Space Marine Codex, Terminators are 35pts, while in the Blood Angel Codex they are 40pts. Vanguard power weapons are 5pts in the Space Marine Codex, while they're 15pts in the Bangel Codex.

Just seems like a middle finger to Blood Angels when they had only just brought the points back to being balanced. Any thoughts?

Cheers

Yes, it's a middle finger to Blood Angels. That's what you get for not following your spiritual liege.

On the other hand, the points are now closer to being balanced. 35pt Terminators are much closer to being balanced than 40pt Terminators, just as paying 15pts for power weapons when you can take Honour Guard instead is completely pointless.

Yeah, I 100% agree. 35pt termies and 5pt power weapons seems great. Would be cool if Bangels also got those point costs Maybe in the next cycle

Gotta admit that I read the title as "New Space Marines cheaper than Bagels"

blood angels terminators have furious charge I believe. so that extra 5pts takes into account the special rules.

that's what I gather from It anyway, could be wrong

SGTPozy wrote:
Gotta admit that I read the title as "New Space Marines cheaper than Bagels"

Me too.

SGTPozy wrote:
Gotta admit that I read the title as "New Space Marines cheaper than Bagels"

Ha, you weren't the only one...

What's a bangel?


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Nvm.. you mean BloodANGEL.. (For the record I think this sort of acroynm could be more "effecient".. i.e. maybe the 4 extra letters are worth it)

That's a crunchy bagel that is right there!

Its an Everything-Tearer Bagel. You prolly won't like it, unless you're a health nut or you drown it in the blood of the emperor's enemie..... Cream cheese!

ninjaf wrote:
blood angels terminators have furious charge I believe. so that extra 5pts takes into account the special rules.

that's what I gather from It anyway, could be wrong

And C:SM terminators get chapter tactics in addition to being cheaper. BA got screwed, simple as that.

That said, outside of tournament play I think you'd be perfectly within your rights to ask to use the C:SM costs for directly analogous units, and I think most reasonable opponents would be perfectly happy to let you have that.

ConanMan wrote:What's a bangel?


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Nvm.. you mean BloodANGEL.. (For the record I think this sort of acroynm could be more "effecient".. i.e. maybe the 4 extra letters are worth it)

Nah, capitalisation is all you need - its perfectly clear when you write it 'BAngel'.

That said, its just the process - I'm sure that BAngel termies will drop to 35 pts in the next BAngel book.

 -Shrike- wrote:

SGTPozy wrote:
Gotta admit that I read the title as "New Space Marines cheaper than Bagels"

Ha, you weren't the only one...

I read it as "bagel" too.

 Paradigm wrote:
That said, outside of tournament play I think you'd be perfectly within your rights to ask to use the C:SM costs for directly analogous units, and I think most reasonable opponents would be perfectly happy to let you have that.

Spending 5 minutes releasing a FAQ is just far too much effort for GW. Either that, or GW is worried that releasing a FAQ would be an admission that GW didn't get things right the first time round.

I read this wrong and some foolish hope rose inside of me that Space Marine Tactical squads were dropped in price to 10$ or something. Much derp and disappoint on my part.

I wonder if C:CSM Terminators will get a further Points Reduction..? lol Probably not, but hey! Who knows?!

Am I the only one disappointed this thread had nothing to do with 1980s pop strumpets The Bangles?

No, General Kroll, you are not the only one.

*Counters said middle finger with 100% mecha dreadnought army*

Space Wolf Termies are 33 points and you can take them in three's and they get those cool Storm Shields for free, YAY! Do us Space Vikings win the points race?

"Bah humbug..."

Cf The 80s Bangles...who may or may not have encouraged impure thoughts in teemage boys. #NotBlindYet

What's funny is that the two things I think of when I think cheap Bangles are...




I think Space Marines are pricier than either!

Unless we're talking ebay.

FacebookJunkie wrote:
"Bah humbug..."

Cf The 80s Bangles...who may or may not have encouraged impure thoughts in teemage boys. #NotBlindYet

And the rest of us :p Susanna Hoffs was hot.