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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/22 16:33:58
Subject: Hades Breaching Drill Spam?
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Member of a Lodge? I Can't Say
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Would it be a good tactic to fill all the troop slots with Engineers+HBD?
It could work like drop pod assault? (STEEL REHN)
Plus the drill has the Melta-Cutter for anti-tank (as well as a S10 ram that auto hits buildings)
It can also emerge underneath cover (and thus destroys it making ADL/Void Shield Generator players cry) and if it emerges from underneath a unit, the unit takes a S10 AP1 melta hit AND forces the unit to move 1" away from it (if only engineers could have flamers...)
Add some artillery at the back (plus the HQ) (or a Squadron of Leman Russ Punishers)
Good Idea? Bad idea?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/22 17:50:20
Subject: Hades Breaching Drill Spam?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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As far as I'm concerned, it's an excellent idea. It looks badass and actually does decent work.
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CaptainStabby wrote:If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.
jy2 wrote:BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.
vipoid wrote:Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?
MarsNZ wrote:ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/22 20:45:48
Subject: Re:Hades Breaching Drill Spam?
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Douglas Bader
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One small problem: if you take the drill the squad moves to elites.
Also, you have very old rules for the drill and you need to get the new ones. Once you do you'll be much less impressed by it.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/06/22 20:46:29
There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/22 21:21:21
Subject: Hades Breaching Drill Spam?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I was going to say, I knew there was a reason I sold my army lol. They hit the drills with the nerf hammer so bad its ridiculous.
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If you dont short hand your list, Im not reading it.
Example: Assault Intercessors- x5 -Thunder hammer and plasma pistol on sgt.
or Assault Terminators 3xTH/SS, 2xLCs
For the love of God, GW, get rid of reroll mechanics. ALL OF THEM! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/23 07:31:51
Subject: Hades Breaching Drill Spam?
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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I saw this type of list in action only a single time before the nerf. Was also the first time I saw a DKK army too. It was just nasty on a level that I would never have expected from something labeled as IG.
Unfortunately that was then the nerf has since relegated the poor hades to a display piece from what I've heard
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The enemies of Mankind may employ dark sciences or alien weapons beyond Humanity's ken, but such deviance comes to naught in the face of honest human intolerance back by a sufficient number of guns. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/23 12:08:43
Subject: Hades Breaching Drill Spam?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Orlando
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Looking at the rules now. Yeah they make the unit elites so now you have to do CAD shenanigans to get more than three.
No longer comes in automatically on turn 2 and is subject to normal reserves rules.
3" blast template, roll to scatter. If clear no problem, if you hit something then the unit suffers a tank shock or ram attack.Hits with S8 ap1 melta. Units take d3 ap2 hits +usual tank shock effects.
If it destroys enough that the drill can be placed without being 1" from an enemy model then no problem. If not it suffers a deep strike mishap at -2. If a deep strike mishap destroys it then its follow on unit is destroyed.
So its not the most effect unit for its point cost. I recommend downloading the free updated rules for it.
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If you dont short hand your list, Im not reading it.
Example: Assault Intercessors- x5 -Thunder hammer and plasma pistol on sgt.
or Assault Terminators 3xTH/SS, 2xLCs
For the love of God, GW, get rid of reroll mechanics. ALL OF THEM! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/23 16:59:02
Subject: Hades Breaching Drill Spam?
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Douglas Bader
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Which are also no longer current. The correct rules are in IA:Vraks.
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There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/23 18:04:13
Subject: Hades Breaching Drill Spam?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Orlando
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AAhh the 4th iiteration then. Any changes from what I posted?
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If you dont short hand your list, Im not reading it.
Example: Assault Intercessors- x5 -Thunder hammer and plasma pistol on sgt.
or Assault Terminators 3xTH/SS, 2xLCs
For the love of God, GW, get rid of reroll mechanics. ALL OF THEM! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/24 04:38:13
Subject: Hades Breaching Drill Spam?
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Douglas Bader
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Pretty much everything is changed.
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There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/24 04:41:58
Subject: Hades Breaching Drill Spam?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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They still need to FAQ the rules because RAW means that the drill, even though it's T7 with several wounds, is T3 due to majority toughness rules. It's listed as "Infantry" and attached to a unit.
However if you manage to get RAI working, or let the other players assume it works how it's meant to work, I think it's quite effective. Maybe even too powerful as it delivers a lot of high strength hammer of wrath hits to whatever the squad charges.
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