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There is a guy called Cameron Blume he has a lot of battle reports. I normally look out for non urban battle reports too.

I dont have pictures, but I will show what is used for scatter terrain in our games.

bought 2 sets of theese: http://www.ebay.com/itm/50-pcs-N-Scale-1-160-painted-Model-Cars-N-gauge-/390182673921?hash=item5ad8b31e01

It know it says it takes a long time but mine took just 1 week (in the US east coast).

Took a hammer and smashed em up a bit.

Put them in shapes of wrecks with eachother and made little car pile ups.

Took the thin clear packaging from the dropzone blisters and cut it into circular designs, some small some big.

I glued the cars together and let them dry.

I washed the cars and GW Earthshade, then Reilkand flesh wash (or vice versa) Made them look old and abandoned.

I then glued them to the thin clear plastic base and made glue designs all over the cars and base, gave it some flock and done.

I normally use Mechwarrior vehicles for cover.

I'm going to ruin everyone's day... watch.

Yesterday I spent the better part of the afternoon assembling our starters and extras, and had Dropzone on the brain as I went to sleep.

I proceeded to dream about Hawk Wargames adapting the Dropzone rules to make a 10mm Star Wars licensed game. Needless to say, I woke up very sad realizing it was only a dream. :-p

 Capt. Camping wrote:
There is a guy called Cameron Blume he has a lot of battle reports. I normally look out for non urban battle reports too.

He plays IIRC in a semi-local store (Giga Bites Cafe) that has alot of terrain for gamers to use and is owned by a dakkite (SergeantHorse).

I watched a couple of Cameron's reports earlier. I only wish they were uncut. As a new player, seeing the dice-rolls made, etc... for even one game helps immensely.

I tried the Blue Table ones... but, genuinely found the commentator and his friend obnoxious, and couldn't make it through the whole thing. I felt bad for Dave Lewis for getting talked over, and constantly disrespected... during a demo of his own game.

Regarding scenery, the rulebooks have plenty of pictures of battles taking place in non-urban areas; arctic tundra, wooded areas with rocky outcrops and desert/scrubland. Then there was the big table set up at Salute 2015:

https://6inchmove.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/img_3568.jpg (warning; 3264 x 2448 px!)

I think the urban layouts became so popular because the card buildings were produced - ironically because of a lack of commercially-available 10mm scenery.

If you complain that demolishing buildings is unbalancing, not fun or otherwise a problem, try ... using something else instead.

From what I've seen though, if you're going to play in a non-urban area you're going to need a LOT of terrain. different factions have very different combat ranges, and a too open table will turn into a shooting gallery.

That's true no matter what scenery you use, though,. It's not really relevant to "do I play in a city or in the countryside?"

Quick question guys... How close are posted "experimental" rules, to their final rules?

I ask because I haven't bought the Reconquest book yet, but own the Ferrum Drone Carrier. I don't want to buy the book for one profile (until I am ready to expand our forces of course), but did notice they have old experimental rules posted for it.

The experimental rules, by my understanding, will actually have the latest updates folded into the pdf. If not, then they should really remove those from the website.

Are the new game features such as Air Controllers only in the Reconquest book, or are they on a web somewhere?

Well, I only own the 1.1 Core Rulebook, and there isn't a profile for the unit in there.

Is there a .pdf of additional rules?

Mind you, I am BRAND new to the game, so whatever I know is gleaned from this thread.

The Ferrum's experimental rules are not up to date (it is more expensive in the new book).

The Focus Fire rules are also different.

You'll want to get Reconquest phase 1 (the expansion book) for the updated first wave units.

I definitely will be supporting this game, but hate buying up books just to get up to speed with a game. I have an aversion since getting into Malifaux, being talked into buying the 1.5 rulebook and THREE pricey expansion books... only to have them out-dated six months later when version 2.0 launched.

So I will probably order Reconquest this week, and maybe a few units for the wife and I. Our starter set x2 games have been very fun, and using our Famous Commanders as proxies for regular, core-book commanders has been interesting enough that we're going full sized with the game.

Any suggestions for fun/diverse next purchases for UCM and Scourge?

I picked up an Oppressor and it's a pretty fun. Although, it takes some modifying to make it work with the Harbinger.

Reavers are what I need tactically. Will pick up a pair soon.

By the way, anyone have any quick/lazy tips to help a not-great painter, paint the um... I think "canopy" is the word I am looking for?

I'd hate to leave them black, but don't know how else to convey tinted glass, or in fact give it any sense of depth.

UCM: Go for Archangels. start with 1 pack and see how you like them, if you do pick up a second and a Seraphim.

Falcons are also incredible right now, and an Eagle can't hurt.

The new Hazard suits look pretty awesome, and I've been hearing good reports about them.

Praetorians are also decent, and Wolverines are really good for a scout unit (the AA wolverines).

As for painting canopies, on my UCM I use a dark blue (Kaldor Blue I think from GW), then do a quick splotch of something like Altdorf Blue or another lighter blue.

nobody wrote:
UCM: Go for Archangels. start with 1 pack and see how you like them, if you do pick up a second and a Seraphim.

Falcons are also incredible right now, and an Eagle can't hurt.

The new Hazard suits look pretty awesome, and I've been hearing good reports about them.

Praetorians are also decent, and Wolverines are really good for a scout unit (the AA wolverines).

As for painting canopies, on my UCM I use a dark blue (Kaldor Blue I think from GW), then do a quick splotch of something like Altdorf Blue or another lighter blue.

Thanks man. And since I am buying for the wife as well, what Scourge units would you suggest?

I only really play Scourge to do demo games, but from what I've seen:

Destroyers (their exotics) they're really resilient and strong.

Raider+Screamer sets, Raiders right now look really good being a flying flamer platform, Screamers work well to debuff the infantry you aren't flaming.

Ravagers for AA, they compliment Reapers pretty well.

For both factions, you'll want to grab at least two packs of your light infantry dropships (Raven-A for UCM, Intruder-A I think for Scourge(?)) as they tend to be hard to find and you'll want them for your exotics (and graduating your other infantry to them).

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:

nobody wrote:
UCM: Go for Archangels. start with 1 pack and see how you like them, if you do pick up a second and a Seraphim.

Falcons are also incredible right now, and an Eagle can't hurt.

The new Hazard suits look pretty awesome, and I've been hearing good reports about them.

Praetorians are also decent, and Wolverines are really good for a scout unit (the AA wolverines).

As for painting canopies, on my UCM I use a dark blue (Kaldor Blue I think from GW), then do a quick splotch of something like Altdorf Blue or another lighter blue.

Thanks man. And since I am buying for the wife as well, what Scourge units would you suggest?

Prowlers and minders are great units for expanding from the starter set. They also act as scouts for your commander. They use the same drop ship, so you could always get one box of each and see if you like them before investing in dual sets of drop ships.

After that you should go for a commander unit. The flying squid or the eden dinosaur are both pretty good. And make sure to pick up the command cards. Devestators are also good, and you'll have two extra transports from your two starter sets, so you could buy 1 box of destroyers, 1 more dropship, and you'll be good to go.

nobody wrote:
Phase 2 is dropping sometime next year, and then there will be a Phase 3 sometime after that.

Part of why I like this game is a story that actually moves forward. I'm also learning about scale from my regular opponent and more from this thread.

After 8 months of my last non demo game, 2 of my friends they want to play the game again. Just because I bought more minis and I showed them on the table while I was painting them. I thing you should try this strategy to call the attention of other players in FLGS or your game club.

 argonak wrote:

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:

nobody wrote:
UCM: Go for Archangels. start with 1 pack and see how you like them, if you do pick up a second and a Seraphim.

Falcons are also incredible right now, and an Eagle can't hurt.

The new Hazard suits look pretty awesome, and I've been hearing good reports about them.

Praetorians are also decent, and Wolverines are really good for a scout unit (the AA wolverines).

As for painting canopies, on my UCM I use a dark blue (Kaldor Blue I think from GW), then do a quick splotch of something like Altdorf Blue or another lighter blue.

Thanks man. And since I am buying for the wife as well, what Scourge units would you suggest?

Prowlers and minders are great units for expanding from the starter set. They also act as scouts for your commander. They use the same drop ship, so you could always get one box of each and see if you like them before investing in dual sets of drop ships.

After that you should go for a commander unit. The flying squid or the eden dinosaur are both pretty good. And make sure to pick up the command cards. Devestators are also good, and you'll have two extra transports from your two starter sets, so you could buy 1 box of destroyers, 1 more dropship, and you'll be good to go.

Thanks for the suggestions, all. We actually do have Commanders, having bought Eden's Dinosaur, and The Luciana-Cato Character-Ferrum, as well as Command Card decks. We've been using them as proxies for a Kodiak and Desolator generic Command vehicles, while learning the game. :-p

Posted in the "what did you do today?" thread, here's a quick picture I took on my phone of my current army (spoilered for folks on mobile).



The army list:

UCM 1500 Shock and Awe
Clash: 1499/1500 points
Standard Army
Standard Roster [1499/1500 pts]

Field Command [450 pts]
Phoenix: Phoenix(Captain) [285 pts]
Ferrum: Ferrum [165 pts]

Armored Formation [277 pts]
Katana Squad: 3x Katana, Condor [142 pts]
Rapier Squad: 3x Rapier [135 pts]

Legionnaire Corps [207 pts]
Legionnaires: 2x Legionnaires, Raven A [80 pts]
Fireblade Squad: 3x Fireblade, Condor [127 pts]

Legionnaire Corps [160 pts]
Legionnaires: 2x Legionnaires, Raven A [80 pts]
Legionnaires: 2x Legionnaires, Raven A [80 pts]

Expeditionary Group [226 pts]
Wolverine Squad: 4x Wolverine A, 2x Raven B [102 pts]
Praetorians: 2x Praetorians, Raven A [124 pts]

Air Wing [179 pts]
Archangel Squad: Archangel [67 pts]
Seraphim Squad: Seraphim [112 pts]

Looking good!

Hey, is anyone else having problems getting approved forum access to the hawk forums? I registered over a week ago and never heard back other than the "your account must be approved" email.

 argonak wrote:
Looking good!

Hey, is anyone else having problems getting approved forum access to the hawk forums? I registered over a week ago and never heard back other than the "your account must be approved" email.

It takes a while, took me a month. Then I emailed info@hawkwargames.com. Was a member w/in 2 weeks after that.

You have to realize it is a 6-7 man operation, takes a while.

Anyone know the trees Hawk uses on their nice multi level boards? Like the one here in a beasts of war "how to beat" video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ea9IK6YYvI skip to 1:33 in. The bigger tree to the right and the smal ones under the hades

Also was any rules posted for the Bunker terrain set?

Just starting out with my UCM army and was really interested in the use of IF and FM units UCM has. Would like some thoughts on the list I have come up with,

(I currently own 2 UCM starters, Flak Troops kit, Ferrum kit, Raven A and B kits, Longbow kit, Arachangel kit, and Seraphim kit)

IF Strike Fighters
Clash: 1492/1500 points
Standard Roster [1492/1500 pts]

- Field Command [368 pts]
--- Kodiak: Kodiak(Captain) [203 pts]
--- Ferrum: Ferrum [165 pts]

- Armored Formation [187 pts]
--- Sabre Squad: 3x Sabre, Condor [142 pts]
--- Longbow Squad: Longbow, Raven B(+Missile Pods) [45 pts]

- Armored Formation [187 pts]
--- Sabre Squad: 3x Sabre, Condor [142 pts]
--- Longbow Squad: Longbow, Raven B(+Missile Pods) [45 pts]

- Legionnaire Corps [344 pts]
--- Rapier Squad: 3x Rapier [135 pts]
--- Flak Team: 2x Legionnaire Flak Team, Condor, 2x Bear [131 pts]
--- ^ Sharing ^ Legionnaires: 3x Legionnaires [78 pts]

- Legionnaire Corps [160 pts]
--- Legionnaires: 2x Legionnaires, Raven A [80 pts]
--- Legionnaires: 2x Legionnaires, Raven A [80 pts]

- Air Wing [246 pts]
--- Archangel Squad: 2x Archangel [134 pts]
--- Seraphim Squad: Seraphim [112 pts]

str00dles1 wrote:
Anyone know the trees Hawk uses on their nice multi level boards? Like the one here in a beasts of war "how to beat" video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ea9IK6YYvI skip to 1:33 in. The bigger tree to the right and the smal ones under the hades

Also was any rules posted for the Bunker terrain set?

My guess is that they are just some model railway scenery.

Rules for the bunkers seem to be in development.

Are infantry useful on a non-city board? Do you use similar rules for "forests" or "rocky outcrops" as you do for buildings so that CQB becomes a thing again?