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Please note that I know Formations and the like are hotly debated right now, but please do not derail this post with debate/scorn/support about such (there is a place for it, but this thread is not one of those places). If you must comment, please do so about the formation itself and its balancing in comarison with other formations in the codex.

The intentions of this formation was to give Black Templars a way to use the in-Codex FoC while still being able to use Crusader Squads and the Emperor's Champion.


(FORMATION) DEMI-CRUSADE
A Demi-Crusade can be taken instead of a Battle Demi-Company when taking a Gladius Strike Force.

FORMATION:
* 1 Captain* or Chaplain (1)
* 0-1 Emperor's Champion
* 3-5 Crusader Squads
* 2-3 of any combination of the following: Assault Squad, Bike Squad, Attack Bike Squad, unit of Land Speeders and/or Centurion Assault Squads.
* 0-1 unit of Dreadnoughts, Ironclad Dreadnoughts or Venerable Dreadnoughts
* (1): High Marshal Helbrecht or Chaplain Grimaldus may be taken in place of the Captain or Chaplain.

RESTRICTIONS:
* May only be taken by a Space Marines detachment using Chapter Tactics (Black Templars).

SPECIAL RULES:
* Objective Secured: A unit with this special rule controls Objective Markers even if an enemy scoring unit is within range of the Objective Marker, unless the enemy unit also has this special rule.

* Endless Crusade: If your army contains one or more Demi-Crusades, all models in the same detachment gain the Furious Charge and Hatred (Psykers, Brotherhood of Psykers/Sorcerers, Psychic Pilot) special rules. They gain this Hatred special rule each turn against the target unit(s), instead of just on the turn they charge.

* Chariots of the Crusades: If a Gladius Strike Force includes two Demi-Crusades which includes an Emperor's Champion, and also with one including a Captain and the other including a Chaplain, then they form together into a Crusade. Any unit from the Crusade that has the option to take a Rhino or Razorback as a Dedicated Transport may take one at no points cost (though they must pay for any additional upgrades and options as normal), or may take a Land Raider Crusader for 200 points (per Land Raider Crusader).

You've not actually included any way to take the Emperor's Champion as part of the formation.

Would allow the FC/hatred in games if I can use custom rules for Ork clans. Would allow the rest of it all the time.

I would also vary the amounts of the Crusader Squads and "assault"/bike squads.

I'd allow you to take the Emperor's Champion, too.

Emperors Champion should be mandatory along with a captain or chaplain (obviously only in the first/one demi-crusade).

Thanks for all the drama-free replies guys, really appreciate it.

Made some changes and included an Emperor's Champion in the detachment. Pretty sure I made the wording for the full Crusade to require an Emperor's Champion to work. I shall check.

In any case thanks for the wonderful replies!

Looks good to me! Pretty good rendering of the demi-company for Black Templars.

I very much like the flavor that gives back to BT.
How about an option or addition for either Terminator Assault Squads or Vanguard Veterans (either with JP or in rhino/razorback/or even LRC)?

 ah64pilot5 wrote:
I very much like the flavor that gives back to BT.
How about an option or addition for either Terminator Assault Squads or Vanguard Veterans (either with JP or in rhino/razorback/or even LRC)?

Good point.

If I may suggest the following changes:
0-1 Command Squad
0-2 from the following list:
*Vanguard Veteran Squad
*Terminator Squad
*Assault Terminator Squad

Also, either:
3-5 Crusader Squads
0-3 Assault/Assault Centurion/Bike Squads

Or:
2-5 Crusader Squads
1-3 Assault/Assault Centurion/Bike Squads.

A little smaller while still being flexible.

Charistoph wrote:

 ah64pilot5 wrote:
I very much like the flavor that gives back to BT.
How about an option or addition for either Terminator Assault Squads or Vanguard Veterans (either with JP or in rhino/razorback/or even LRC)?

Good point.

If I may suggest the following changes:
0-1 Command Squad
0-2 from the following list:
*Vanguard Veteran Squad
*Terminator Squad
*Assault Terminator Squad

Also, either:
3-5 Crusader Squads
0-3 Assault/Assault Centurion/Bike Squads

Or:
2-5 Crusader Squads
1-3 Assault/Assault Centurion/Bike Squads.

A little smaller while still being flexible.

I like the idea of the change to the assault/assault centurion/bike squads. I think that fits better with the up close and personal nature of the crusade. If the crusade force is large enough, have a third detachment/force with support elements.
Also, I think the command squads or even honor guard could just be included with the characters (that would fit in with the Sword Brethren idea.