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So a while back I built up a pretty solid 2k nid list but I wanted to trim it down so I could start playing smaller games sooner! So here's the list!

Hq:
Flyrant-electroshock grubs, 2 twinlinked brain leech devourers
Flyrant-electroshock grubs, 2 twinlinked brain leech devourers

Elites:
Zoanthrope brood-neurothrope

Troops:
15 gaunts
15 gaunts

Heavy support:
Carnifex-2 twinlinked devourers with brain leech worms
Carnifex-2 twinlinked devourers with brain leech worms

Formation:
Living artillery node

Artillery holds back field, zoans provide synapse for the carnifexs and gaunts running up, and flyrants fly forward harassing the enemy until the gaunts and fex's get there. I have 5 points left over. Prior to posting I had a crone instead of a carnifex and I figured one carnifex would get shot up before he crosses the table so I swapped a crone for another. And I also figured 3 flyers in a 1500 might be pretty mean lol.

This is a quintessential meta list. very good.

Just Curious... how many Zoans+Neu? the minimum 2+1 ?

Yea it's the 2+1 for the zoans.

Yea it's a pretty easy set up. I've magnetized most of the bugs so I swap different weapons between them. I wanted a more fun monstrous creature list but unfortunetly it would get killed pretty easily. My carnifex's originally were the screamer killers with the plasma blasts and the double scything talons. But for competitive purposes lots of people said double devourers or they will die before combat.

It also seems most people would die for the artillery formation so I included that because otherwise I would have no long ranged fire power.

I was originally going to try a double combined arms and have some mawlocs but it's pretty difficult to run lists without any long ranged support.

Right now models I have are one flyrant, 2 carnifex's the hormagaunts, 6 rippers and the 2 zoans and a neurothrope.

Looks pretty dang good. The only shortcoming is no Shrouding. And that is a meta issue, if it is a problem then you'll need to add some.

Yea I originally had it in the list but the list is already tight on points as is. In my larger list I've made sure that there's a venom thrope for shrouding!

And thanks for the replies so far!

Looks great,
I'd drop the gants and replace them with DS Rippers.
I'd also drop the neorothrope/zoanthrope.
With the saved points I'd buy a Malanthrope, a Mawloc and a lictor.
The Malanthrope will save your flyrants over and over from 1st turn alpha strikes and can follow your fexs around giving them synapse and a bit more durability in cover.
The lictor is great for maelstrom grabbing or can hang out near an objective that you want to guide your mawloc onto.

What book do I find the malenthrope rules in? And about how much do the models go for?

Also doesn't the lictor have to already be on the board for it to help the mawloc, for example it would have to have no just come in from reserves?

Malanthrope is IA 4 2nd edition.

I had no luck with the zoa brood, so I'm running a zoa-zoa-venom elite slot. The venom gets focused a lot, I know, but so would be a malanthrope.

And I have to advise you against the living artillery node. After the "reprint" of the dataslate, it's now 1 brood of 3 biovores. And multiple barrage rule makes them even more unreliable.

If you have spores, you could try to drop pod your dakkafexes, or a t-fex (with venom spray and e-grubs, nasty)


As for the lictor: a) it has scatterless deepstrike for maelstrom b) it starts on the board, Infiltrating, and mawloc burrows on turn 1, arriving on turn 2 within 6" of lictor.

I'm a big fan of T-fex with egrubs in a pod...so much fun.

I usually run 2 lictors per mawloc...they are perfect for nabbing maelstrom objectives. Infiltrating them is the idea, and one hanging out with a valuable target lets you mawloc that nasty invisible seer star that has just charged you.

The Malanthrope is heaps more durable than the venomthrope as it's T5 with 4 wounds and regen plus It fills the synapse slot. Stick em in 4+ cover and they're getting a 2+ save...nothing to sneeze at and they'll protect your flyrants with toe-in to that same cover for your first turn.

I've never had any luck with zoanthropes, they die far too easily and their offense is short range, and hard to get off/hit with.

[edited double post]

Alright so I dropped the artillery formation. Then I added a mawloc, lictor, and a malenthrope.

Now I have 120pts left. I didn't drop the zoans and neurothrope just because those are models I ended up picking up already.

Here is the updated list, I updated it a little as getting a malenthrope might be a little difficult, and even getting the rules on top of that.

x2 flyrants-each with electroshock grubs and 2 pairs of brainleech devourers.

x15 hormagaunts
x15 hormagaunts

Lictor
Lictor
Zoanthrope brood-2 zoans and neurothrope


Carnifex brood- x2 carnifex each with 2 pairs brainleech devourers
Mawloc
Mawloc

That puts me at 1485, I'm thinking with the remaining 15pts I may give the warlord tyrant acid blood as I can't think of anything else for 15pts.

Don't give acid blood to a Flyrant, you won't want it to fight close combat. take 3 hormas less to free another 15 points and with those 30 give adrenal glands to both carnis, reroll charge distance, you WANT 'em to get close.

Or just buy a mucolid spore cluster, it's 15. o 3 more hormas.

Hmmmm both those options sound pretty awesome! The carnifexs could use a boost to move faster but the spores could also give me more scoring units and some more bombs! Lol

 tankboy145 wrote:
Hmmmm both those options sound pretty awesome! The carnifexs could use a boost to move faster but the spores could also give me more scoring units and some more bombs! Lol

I'm not sure... I mean... Mucolid spores have the same rules as spore mines, so it's non-scoring non-denial units... BUT... they are Troops from a CAD, so they have objective secured, I don't know if mucolid can deny or control... (but it sure will make the other guy star away from that marker lol )

Oh darn, I didn't realize that lol. I don't have my books on me so I don't have any references and I'm out on vacation lol.

But I do see your point on keeping others away from an objective.

I figure for the time being I will keep adrenal glands on the carnifexs.

If I'm putting adrenal glands on the fexs and they're going to be running should I kit them out for more melee or just keep them with the dakka guns?

Mucolids aren't a scoring unit so Ob Sec won't apply to them. Conversely, they don't count for KP and First Blood.

AG is a pretty good call on a Dakkafex, D3 S9 Hammer of Wrath and 4 S10 Ap2 attacks will wreck any vehicle it comes into contact with (aside IK, so don't charge them unless you can paroxysm them down to WS1 or something so they can't hit you).

Keep the Dakkaguns on them. I'dactually be tempted to drop one Dakkafex for a Tyrannocyte to give it some mobility. A tyrannocyte can also escort your Zoanthropes if you need to get some S10 Ap2 lances in your opponents face.

That would leave you 90 points or so...that's enough for another Tyrannocyte for either the Carnifex or Zoanthropes and AG on the Fex. Or you could TS on the Hormagaunts. Or even get a large blob of Gargoyles.

One last thing, I'd split the Hormagaunts into 3x10. This will keep them more survivable and allow them to capture more objectives.

I agree with Frozocrone.

Being naturally S9 (minimum) and AP2 attacks, you don't need melee weapons con a fex.

Also, Tyrannocyte can get your zoans or Fex closer, or even behind your enemy, having a Fex being deloyed behind enemies, can't charge turn 2, but he can fire to enemies behind their cover, also it can use the tyrannocyte as cover, plus, having those 2 lictors will avoid your tyrannocy scattering too, not only the mawlocs.
If you are lucky and can make the Tyrannocyte with fex and both mawloc enter the game on turn 2, that will be a lot of sudden dmg.

Alright so basically to the above list I can either keep it the way it is or drop a carnifexs for 2 pods. So I would have to say that gives me flexibility of running 2 carnifexs or 1 and 2 pods. one pod for zoans and one for carnifex.

I will create another forum sometime tomorrow or the next day to build up to a 2k list starting with the basics from this list.

Tyrpak wrote:
mawloc burrows on turn 1, arriving on turn 2

Why the Hell I have never thought of this (and why I didn't read it the first time)

Wallur wrote:

Tyrpak wrote:
mawloc burrows on turn 1, arriving on turn 2

Why the Hell I have never thought of this (and why I didn't read it the first time)

This is not allowed. The Mawloc may not use the Burrow turn 1. It specifies.

 krodarklorr wrote:

Wallur wrote:

Tyrpak wrote:
mawloc burrows on turn 1, arriving on turn 2

Why the Hell I have never thought of this (and why I didn't read it the first time)

This is not allowed. The Mawloc may not use the Burrow turn 1. It specifies.

Ohhhhhhh right... so that is why I haven't first thought of it...

a question from a guy that recently came back to 40k, where to find all this formation that are outside the original codex? like the manifactorum or the living artillery node?

You can find them in the Rising Leviathan Dataslates.

It looks like we have a £30 Codex but really, our formations are spread out all over the place

Yep,exactly my feelings


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there is a way to have all the information about the new units and formationor i just need to scout the net?

In the GW page, if you search the new units (7th edit units that are not on the 6th codex) there is a link to a pdf on black library to read the rules.

Tyrannocite, Neurothrope (and new Zoanthrope Brood rules, search for zoanthrope brod), Mucolid Spore, Sporocyst, Maleceptor, and I don't remember if any other.

As for Formations, as he said, search for leviathan rising, or just surf the net