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I was wondering if there was anything based off of Native American culture in 40k. The closest thing I can come up with is either the White Scars, but that's Mongolian, or the Kroot, and that's more personal fluff that I've come up with for myself, but as much isn't known about them I suppose it isn't entirely wrong. *Braces himself for a tide of reasons why I am wrong*

There will be an Imperial guard regiment that is a copy paste of American Indians. I know they a name for them in one of my old guard books.

deathwing had some native americanism to em back in the day

Rainbow Warriors, if you're not picky on which part of the Americas.

BrianDavion wrote:
deathwing had some native americanism to em back in the day

The whole Raven and Feather motif explains it all.

That's what's great about the Astra Militarum. You can make up your own regiment, homeworld, culture and everything. I imagine using Catachan models with some conversion work from Wood Elf models would produce some cool looking hombres.

 TheCrazyCryptek wrote:
That's what's great about the Astra Militarum. You can make up your own regiment, homeworld, culture and everything. I imagine using Catachan models with some conversion work from Wood Elf models would produce some cool looking hombres.

yeah this can apply to both IG and space marines. both are almost custom made for you to mnake your own unique version of.

Raven Guard have some native american motifs sprinkled here and there, but most were forgotten by now. Then again, that might just be because the Raven Guard themselves are mostly forgotten by Games Workshop.

As always, it's up to a Games Workshop subsidiary to do things better. Forge World's Raven Guard specific things (like the contemptor) have lots of "tribal tattoos", etc.

The Deathwing as pointed out also used to have a Native American motif.

There is indeed a Native American vet light regiment featured In a gaunt's ghost novels, they fought and died to a man if I remember correctly. As far as model wise there is a model named Shiv in the Last Chancers with a proper knife and plasma pistol.

It'd be cool to have a Native American chapter, but I guess it's mainly up to the player to take it much further. I need to read the Ghosts series it seems, it looks pretty good.

For those who want pics.

Ok, that does look pretty cool. I wish they stuck with that for them, honestly.

1st and 2nd ed DA. Just picture how marines with the multi lung go smoking the peace pipe.
I like how eagle wings personal totem is a raining cloud.
I guess raining clouds totem is a eagle wing.

I think the problem of having an army based on Native American culture is that there actually are a bunch of different ones, and you need to focus on one or two…

 Kojiro wrote:
For those who want pics.

That guide was however erroneous even at the time, the core of the Deathwing supplement was the Deathwing story, which repeatedly rammed home that the Dark Angels *Chapter* was not Native American, ie: there was no 'Captain Cloudrunner', rather, there was Captain Ezekiel, whose personal heraldry was derived from the name he bore before becoming a Space Marine: Cloud Runner.

Interestingly, during the PR campaign prior to the release of Dawn of War 1 Relic's art guy stated that the Blood Raven's chapter badge was straight up Native American (North-West Plains Indian was I think what he said, but I wouldn't swear to it).

It wouldn't be a huge stretch for a marine to have 2 names. To keep his birth name, but in the chapter have an "Imperial" name for official business.

So Ezekiel would be his name for all official business, but among his closest companions they might use their given names.

Raven Guard and old Deathwing (mostly retconned by now) have Native American influences. It'd be pretty cool to have a Raven Guard successor with a heavier Native American influence. Here's Corvus anyway.



Also, thread needs more CHEROKEEEEEEEEEEEEE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCbUZqN8JZ0

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I think the problem of having an army based on Native American culture is that there actually are a bunch of different ones, and you need to focus on one or two…

Not really, most Legions/Chapters draw heavily from a variety of native Earth cultures.

but yeah a native american inspired chapter is easy eneugh. givedn many chapters recruit from feral worlds etc I imagine chapters with... tribalistic influance is more common then not. whose to say there isn't a recuiting world out there, whose culture is a native american as Fenris is viking?

Snakebites. Are we forgetting one of the iconic Ork clans? These guys are still in the codex, although their IC has been removed. poor ol' Zogwort.

Either way, the snakebites use alot of the feather and striped armband markings and facepaint that hearkens back to native american cultures. Or in this case, Kultur.

 Icculus wrote:
Snakebites. Are we forgetting one of the iconic Ork clans?

That is like saying ratskins are native Americans.

 RaptorusRex wrote:
Rainbow Warriors, if you're not picky on which part of the Americas.

Ha.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Icculus wrote:
Snakebites. Are we forgetting one of the iconic Ork clans?

That is like saying ratskins are native Americans.

Which they totally are. Ratskins are Hollywood Native Americans slapped wholesale into the underhive.
As other people have said, the Dark Angels had some Native American influence originally, but this has largely been phased out in favor of them being more like medieval knights (because heaven knows there aren't enough of THOSE in 40k, amiright? ). The Rainbow Warriors being Aztecs is actually just fanon, but it is the most palatable reason for their name. Corux looks a little Native American, but his chapter doesn't show it too much.
And of course, Shiv, the Last Chancer, is modeled as a straight up Native American with a plasma pistol. Also, a serial killer. No fluff on his homeworld, sadly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legend_of_the_Rainbow_Warriors

Kanak Skull Takers are probably what you're looking for if we're talking of the Guard

http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Kanak_Skull_Takers

 fallinq wrote:
Which they totally are. Ratskins are Hollywood Native Americans slapped wholesale into the underhive.

Yeah, but “Hollywood Native American” ≠ Native American . What I mean is that they are hardly the result of any serious research about those actual cultures.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 fallinq wrote:
Which they totally are. Ratskins are Hollywood Native Americans slapped wholesale into the underhive.

Yeah, but “Hollywood Native American” ≠ Native American . What I mean is that they are hardly the result of any serious research about those actual cultures.

Spoiler:

This is amazing.

"Oh, cool, nice axe dude, yeah you look real tough AUTOCANNONS FIRE"

Keep in mind that by the 41st Millenium any Native American influence is likely to be so diluted that you can't tell which historical tribe(s) your regiment/chapter descended from.

In other words you can pick and choose which elements you like from any/all tribes. Or you can assume that your favorite tribe shipped off Terra during the Dark Age of Technology, either by choice or as some new form of Reservation, and thus remained relatively culturally/genetically pure.

The choice is yours.

My two cents.

 Jambles wrote:
This is amazing.

"Oh, cool, nice axe dude, yeah you look real tough AUTOCANNONS FIRE"

The whole comics is amazing. It is like Judge Dredd on steroid. Totally insane. Hugely recommend it. Title's simply “The Redeemer”.

The Skull Takers sound pretty cool. If I were go do an IG army, I'd probably try and work some form of them into it, or just make some rough rider conversion into native americans, but if there is an in fluff army all the better. I'm honestly a little disappointed that the potential for this isn't as put to use as it could be, but I suppose that's just my opinion. I wouldn't be opposed to GW taking the Kroot culture in that direction, if they ever got around to working on something not Space Marine related.

I've always thought that Catachans would lend themselves well to apache black and white war paint. As far as bonafide plains Indian factions I can't really say there is one. However there is nothing stopping you from doing up a Space Marine chapter along those lines. I think the theme may be a little close to White Scars, but really the only similarity would be an affinity for expert horsemanship.

If you look at some of the old photos that were taken during the wild west era you will find loads of inspiration. Not to mention the fact that it's such a varied culture! Just off the top of my head I can think of a handful of tribes, and each one is so different. For example, Arapaho Indians were a mostly sedentary farming and gathering tribe, but they made war with Shoshoni and Ute Indians whom they viewed as rivals. The Arapaho also were big on ceremony, and often held Sun Dances. Some tribes were migratory but for the people of the Huron life was less hectic. The Huron Indians had what we could call a nation and had physical borders that marked where their land began. They even assimilated other tribes into their own when those situations arose. Sometimes these assimilated tribes came by choice, drawn to the fertile lands around the St. Lawrence basin. Other times the Huron simply went to war and took what they wanted.

Interestingly enough Huron Lughft takes his name from this tribe, though he doesn't use the same context. French fur traders discovered the Huron and named them so because of their rough appearance. The word Huron has roots in french as a term used to describe the "unkempt rebellious peasantry". So in a bit of classic french racism they named the Indians they discovered after the rabble rousers back home, most likely due to their wearing of human hair, a tradition that would have no doubt shocked the french mind. So while the Huron tribe was named for their appearance, the 40k character was named for his rebellious nature.

Being Canadian, we have a ton of American Indian history taught to us in school. Its actually kind of fun to go back and look at their cultures because the more you look into it the more you see North America as a kind of second Europe. Such a relatively unbroken land mass, covered with a wide range of different peoples, different languages. I think you would be very hard pressed to find two Indian tribes that were very similar.

If you want to make an army themed around the American Indian tribes you have a lot of options. Just don't go slapping a headdress on a Space Marine and calling it a day.