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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
array of Daleks (including remade 70s era versions, by the look of them) and the Doctor's guitar shredding
were pretty cool, but the episode was a pretty terrible storyline. I think this might be the fourth time in Steven Moffat's tenure
Spoiler:
he's tried to tell us that the Doctor is about to die. Series 6 Astronaut arc, Trenzalore, Christmas?
Let's hope it picks up next week.
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Watched first episode to see if it had improved - Nope
Another plot story about near how the Dr, oh whine whine a near immortal man might die - or a bit of him - sheesh that story is pathetic
Overblown build up of the Dr as the most dangerous man in the universe yet again - yawn - yeah we get how Mary Sue he is.
standard Star Trek style - given we have time travel - we can kill main characters for shock value - except there isn;t any such value and as they got rid of any not interfering in own time stream - is there actually any point in any plot where the Dr apparently loses - he just goes back and resets.
Jenna looked quite pretty and her interplay with Missy was not bad - indeed - killing the Dr and whaving them too travel together for a bit to get him back would have been more interesting.
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"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
I am very sad that I thought the rest of the episode was pretty much crap. I sat there watching it with increasing sadness.
There's no tension in a story line of Doctor Who dying because we know he won't. Stuff was flashed around so quickly, typical modern camera and editing that is meant to distract the viewer's attention from defects in the story. WTF is Dr. Who messing around with a guitar and a tank for? Just to be cool?
I liked the moral dilemma involving Davros but again, we know the Daleks aren't going to get written out of history.
Apparently Steven Moffatt is too busy with Sherlock to do a full Dr. Who series next year. In my view it is time he took a break from it and handed the reins to some people with fresh ideas.
Yeah, Robe Guy was a kind of a cool creature concept, but does not make sense to me as a servant of Davros At All. I don't know much about the old stuff, but has he ever had anyone/thing besides a Dalek working for him?
Kilkrazy wrote: The robe guy was a pretty cool concept, actually.
I am very sad that I thought the rest of the episode was pretty much crap. I sat there watching it with increasing sadness.
There's no tension in a story line of Doctor Who dying because we know he won't. Stuff was flashed around so quickly, typical modern camera and editing that is meant to distract the viewer's attention from defects in the story. WTF is Dr. Who messing around with a guitar and a tank for? Just to be cool?
I liked the moral dilemma involving Davros but again, we know the Daleks aren't going to get written out of history.
Apparently Steven Moffatt is too busy with Sherlock to do a full Dr. Who series next year. In my view it is time he took a break from it and handed the reins to some people with fresh ideas.
I think the point was that if the Doctor is going to die, he's going to have a huge party before he does (hence introducing the electric guitar and "dude" 300 years early).
I liked Missy in the episode, except for the "Hey Ricky" reference. Tickling the Dalek was my favorite bit.
As for Davros: He was one of my guesses for the "he" in the proglogue (the others being the Master and the Face of Boe). I expect that the Doctor is going to save Davros, but the hate he is showing will inspire the creation of the Daleks, leading the Doctor to be the muse of Davros.
Well, I'm glad that episode cleared everything up, with concise, coherent and believable explanations!
/sarcasm
Also, obvious plot hole #1:
Spoiler:
River Song made a Dalek beg for mercy already, as silly as that was. How on earth does that correlate with that totally obvious logical sequence from "Daleks have mercy in their vocabulary" to "I must show Davros mercy!"? Given that Daleks have previously been shown to understand emotions and how they affect lesser beings, that entire plot point just seemed completely bizarre and contrived. Well, even more so than normal.
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-Shrike- wrote: Well, I'm glad that episode cleared everything up, with concise, coherent and believable explanations!
Was this your first Doctor Who episode...?
Fortunately not. I just found it have an almost lethal concentration of Handwavium, even in comparison to some of Moffat's other offerings. I don't remember the library or empty child episodes having such garbled explanations, but I'm worried that might just be a tinge of nostalgia.
See, you're trying to use people logic. DM uses Mandelogic, which we've established has 2+2=quack. - Aerethan
Putin.....would make a Vulcan Intelligence officer cry. - Jihadin
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Dr. What wrote: I liked Missy in the episode, except for the "Hey Ricky" reference. Tickling the Dalek was my favorite bit..
I'm quite glad the Missy is back... really enjoying her character.
I'm rather hoping that we get an episode with Missy and River in the same room...
Christmas, hopefully. Michelle Gomez says she wants to stick around as long as possible and River's coming back.
"Pity, I was feeling quite peckish."
"Can I have a stick too?"
"The last chair on Skaro"
I love the Missy dynamic.
Wasn't there something Missy said about a child?
Hype-powered Daleks? Not so much. But the hunter-vegan relationship of the Doctor and Missy is just amazing.
Spoiler:
I do like how they're continuing the "I'm the Doctor, just accept it, don't let facts get in the way of a good story," but what happened between Missy and Clara towards the end....
I wish Missy and the Doctor had a "hands off Clara" rule. That was too far with the Dalek.
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I enjoyed it a lot more than last week, which I found confusing. I don't mind a plot hole about a Dalek with mercy because it set up two good dramatic scenes. Also, the Daleks have existed in so many permutations in space and time that there probably are different strands of Daleks with and without mercy.
I am more disturbed by the idea that a Time Lord can turn their regeneration energy on and off like a flashlight to heal people. In the whole history of Dr Who, regeneration has always been an unconscious response to fatal injury.
Kilkrazy wrote: I enjoyed it a lot more than last week, which I found confusing. I don't mind a plot hole about a Dalek with mercy because it set up two good dramatic scenes. Also, the Daleks have existed in so many permutations in space and time that there probably are different strands of Daleks with and without mercy.
I am more disturbed by the idea that a Time Lord can turn their regeneration energy on and off like a flashlight to heal people. In the whole history of Dr Who, regeneration has always been an unconscious response to fatal injury.
Mr Moffet has no interest in the history and even less in Continuity......
The character interactions were nicely done - enjoyed those Less said about the "plot" the better............
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"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
statu wrote: To be fair to Moffet, regeneration being a conscious decision was brought in by Russel T. Davies
Before that, Romana tried on new bodies like outfits...
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2015/09/27 15:00:49
Subject: Doctor Who -- New Series 2016 Week 2 -- Beware spoilers!
Does anyone have a problem with the sound mixing on Doctor Who lately? The dramatic music is so loud, I have a hard time bearing anyone who's talking.
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2015/09/27 18:33:48
Subject: Re:Doctor Who -- New Series 2016 Week 2 -- Beware spoilers!
AegisGrimm wrote: Does anyone have a problem with the sound mixing on Doctor Who lately? The dramatic music is so loud, I have a hard time bearing anyone who's talking.
I do. I'm running the tv output through a stereo hi-fi setup, which is perfect for most films. The last two episodes of Doctor Who have had me turn the volume up, turn the treble up, turn the treble down, fiddle with the equalisation, and curse the sound techs, because a good two-thirds of the dialogue is bordering on incomprehensible, no matter what I try.
See, you're trying to use people logic. DM uses Mandelogic, which we've established has 2+2=quack. - Aerethan
Putin.....would make a Vulcan Intelligence officer cry. - Jihadin
AFAIK, there is only one world, and it is the real world. - Iron_Captain
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2015/09/27 22:26:04
Subject: Doctor Who -- New Series 2016 Week 2 -- Beware spoilers!
Nice (I suppose) to know it's not just iview causing that... We've had to watch the first two episodes online, as the hard drive died in our PVR. I had assumed the dodgy sound was just ABC's website.
Rather annoying trying to juggle the volume up and down to hear the dialogue without waking up the 2-year-old sleeping at the other end of the house with all the screaming and exploding and suchlike...
2015/09/27 23:35:20
Subject: Re:Doctor Who -- New Series 2016 Week 2 -- Beware spoilers!
I'm watching it on BBC America, and I echo the child sentiment, except mine's 8 months, and luckily sleeps through thunderstorms and once a suddenly malfunctioning fire alarm that scared the crap out of me instead.
"By this point I'm convinced 100% that every single race in the 40k universe have somehow tapped into the ork ability to just have their tech work because they think it should."
2015/10/03 21:37:15
Subject: Doctor Who -- New Series 2016 Week 2 -- Beware spoilers!
I actually quite liked this week's episode. Sure, the ending was obvious, but it felt much more like a monster of the week(s) affair - no blatant overhanging series story arc to worry about.
Also wasn't really expecting it to be a two-parter, that was quite a nice surprise.
See, you're trying to use people logic. DM uses Mandelogic, which we've established has 2+2=quack. - Aerethan
Putin.....would make a Vulcan Intelligence officer cry. - Jihadin
AFAIK, there is only one world, and it is the real world. - Iron_Captain
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TFOL and proud. Also a Forge World Fan.
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2015/10/04 07:32:26
Subject: Re:Doctor Who -- New Series 2016 Week 2 -- Beware spoilers!
I liked the base commander, it was a pity he was the first to die.
To be frank, the ending wasn't obvious to me.
The non-overhanging-story-arc two-parters are often good, precisely because they aren't driven by the need to advance the overhanging story arc and have more time to develop an idea than a single episode.
Less said about the "plot" the better............
