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 Eldarain wrote:
Do you get multiple realmgates in one kit?

They had some at the prelaunch at a GW I went to 10 days ago. There were 2 differant types of gate there, one on the ground and the other one was all floaty and off the base raised on mystical wibbily (stop me I get too technical ) details cast on the base.

From that and based upon their size and the price I'm going to guess there are two in a box.

This just in from Lady Atia on Twitter-

Followers of Khorne, the Bloodgod heard your prayers - as far as i know, Bloodwarriors should get their own MPPK like Liberators

Fire Dwarfs could be really cool.

I'm not very interested in the Sigmarines or Chaos. I'm really curious about the direction they go with Skaven/Elves/Dwarfs/Lizards.

I hope they release "battalion boxes" for new factions with armies roughly equal to the starter set.

400 usd for 20 miniatures...

Unless you make allot of money each month how could you even consider buying this?

I am from EU, maybe our wages are lower than in the US. :(

 mdauben wrote:
GW has already posted what seem to be a fairly comprehensive set of video painting guides for the starter set figures on YouTube. While this obviously only addresses the starter figures specifically, it seems to provide enough information and paint selections and techniques to paint any other figures in the Sigmar or Khorne forces. Does the print/ebook painting guide provide any real additional information?

No. But if you require an extremely comprehensive breakdown of how the studio painted the start figs, the book will be extremely useful.

 devilution wrote:
400 usd for 20 miniatures...

Unless you make allot of money each month how could you even consider buying this?

I am from EU, maybe our wages are lower than in the US. :(

Not sure what this is in reference to. Since the only thing I see up for Age of Sigmar is 200 for 20 (i.e. 4 Boxes of Liberators) which everyone agrees is meh. I'll probably get one box eventually to round out my liberators with some sergeants and different weapons. The bitz will work well with the current box set models and any extra you pick up from broken up starters.

Does that book have the rules in?
I know it's not a "rulebook" but squeezing 4 pages in to make it more comprehensive is easy right?

 Hulksmash wrote:

Not sure what this is in reference to. Since the only thing I see up for Age of Sigmar is 200 for 20 (i.e. 4 Boxes of Liberators) which everyone agrees is meh. I'll probably get one box eventually to round out my liberators with some sergeants and different weapons. The bitz will work well with the current box set models and any extra you pick up from broken up starters.

Sounds like a Kingdom Death comment gone astray (box is US$ 400,- RRP eventually, though nearly 50% off on pre-order).

In the sprue pics, it looks like you could easily magnetize the weapons so you could use the same bodies and give yourself more options. I was gonna get a box of them and try that out myself.

And also I think the starter set guys would be easy to convert with extra bits, just hack off a hammer hand and give him a sword instead.

 Hulksmash wrote:

 devilution wrote:
400 usd for 20 miniatures...

Unless you make allot of money each month how could you even consider buying this?

I am from EU, maybe our wages are lower than in the US. :(

Not sure what this is in reference to. Since the only thing I see up for Age of Sigmar is 200 for 20 (i.e. 4 Boxes of Liberators) which everyone agrees is meh. I'll probably get one box eventually to round out my liberators with some sergeants and different weapons. The bitz will work well with the current box set models and any extra you pick up from broken up starters.

http://www.games-workshop.com/en-NZ/Celestial-Thunder

:-) And KD:Monster is also 400USD (275usd if you pre-order) but imho it's a better price/value.

Edit: Oh my mistake, that's not USD grmbl :-P nvm me :(

Im a little disappointed that the Sigmarines all look the same. It really looks like GW made the same leg/torso/head/arm and then just made different weapon loadouts and sold each one individually. Stormvermin look nothing like clanrats right, but these sigmarines all look the same.

Chopxsticks wrote:
Im a little disappointed that the Sigmarines all look the same. It really looks like GW made the same leg/torso/head/arm and then just made different weapon loadouts and sold each one individually. Stormvermin look nothing like clanrats right, but these sigmarines all look the same.

It keeps the production cost down, not that the saving are ever pass along to us.

Ya I dont disagree, I just dont get any emotion from this Army. They look cool, but in larger groups I dont think any unit would be distinguishable between another.

I am all for this small 5 man unit size. Not the price for 5 models mind you, but I would have like to see something to break up all the infantry guys, like a beast or a warmachine. Hopefully soon

The masks are a bad design decision IMO, human faces would be much more expressive. At the moment the minis could easily be used as sci-fi robots.

They'd make great ancient greek automata.

Chopxsticks wrote:
Im a little disappointed that the Sigmarines all look the same. It really looks like GW made the same leg/torso/head/arm and then just made different weapon loadouts and sold each one individually. Stormvermin look nothing like clanrats right, but these sigmarines all look the same.

But how do Clanrats differ from Skavenslaves? Sure, Stormvermin look nothing like Clanrats and Plague Monks look nothing like Stormvermin--but those are also units which have had a long time for their visual aesthetics to become fine-tuned. We're not even two weeks in for seeing the Stormcast stuff, and we obviously have more to see.

What it really boils down to though is that different armies are going to have different aesthetic styles. Look at an Empire army consisting of nothing but State Troops and they will "all look the same" barring the weapon loadouts.

The Stormcast Eternals have a very samey look with what we have available now, with alterations such as cloaks(Retributors) or wings (Prosecutors) to visually delineate the unit types. There's more coming though.

Perhaps players are meant to include Eternals from various Stormhosts in the same army?

Er, well, there I have made the basic mistake of talking about armies rather than collections. With AoS, you can field whatever you want so you aren't necessarily buying, painting, and collecting an army -- say, for example, a Blood Angels army. You are just buying and painting up whatever you like. So you can have some bluish-gray Longfangs next to your golden Sanguinary Guard alongside of your black Ravenwing lanspeeder.

You know, but with fantasy guys instead.

Just be patient, I'm sure the SigMarine Rhinox Steamtank Transport will be out soon.

Actually that one pic that had the stormcasts mixed in with the empire war altar looked pretty cool. You can pretty much mix in any Order models with your army to make it more unique. You could add in one of those, or some cannons, or a bretonian trebuchet, or some dwarf copters and other things. Give everything the same paint job and they should all match pretty good. That is one thing I like, having 4 factions instead of tons of different races that all hate each other lets you have a lot more options for building more unique armies.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Chopxsticks wrote:
Im a little disappointed that the Sigmarines all look the same. It really looks like GW made the same leg/torso/head/arm and then just made different weapon loadouts and sold each one individually. Stormvermin look nothing like clanrats right, but these sigmarines all look the same.

But how do Clanrats differ from Skavenslaves? Sure, Stormvermin look nothing like Clanrats and Plague Monks look nothing like Stormvermin--but those are also units which have had a long time for their visual aesthetics to become fine-tuned. We're not even two weeks in for seeing the Stormcast stuff, and we obviously have more to see.

What it really boils down to though is that different armies are going to have different aesthetic styles. Look at an Empire army consisting of nothing but State Troops and they will "all look the same" barring the weapon loadouts.

The Stormcast Eternals have a very samey look with what we have available now, with alterations such as cloaks(Retributors) or wings (Prosecutors) to visually delineate the unit types. There's more coming though.

True, kinda, the empire has alot of character, different faces, hats, feathers, general stuff to break up the visual of the unit. I agree with scarletsquig, I think its the masks thats causing it. for me They all look exactly alike with their mask expression.

EDIT: Im still gonna play Sigmarines, dont get me wrong. Im looking for good alternative heads at the moment.

Someone has supposedly seen the new book and has posted this
the first 80 pages are Lore about the world, race lore and a small
timeline from the point where the old world ended to the Age of Sigmar

- about 30 pages of miniature gallery with all factions involved

- 110 pages of scenarios (complete with battleplans and lore) and rules
on how to play games in the fire realm and life realm (more of that later)
the battleplans can be played with any army

- lastley 30 pages of warscrolls and battalions inculding new minis:
Lord- Celestant (Same rules as in WD)
Lord Castellant (Ability: damage chaos unit within 12" or +1 save for
a single Stormcast unit within 12")
Gryphon Hounds (2 base attacks, double when near Lord Castellant, when
an enemy unit gets set-up within 10" roll 2D6, every friendy unit within
2D6" of the hounds can make a shooting attack at the enemy unit)
Judicators (4 different weapons to choose, 2 crossbow types and 2 bow
types)
Liberators (Same rules as in WD)

nothing new for chaos
nothing new for Sylvaneth

Some additional (optional) rules for the battlefields:
-Sigmars Storm-
Legion of chaos:
If playing chaos, you can roll 1D6 once per game if your general is
still alive to summon additional units:
1 - D3 Wounds to your general, if he dies he becomes a Spawn
2 - 1 Unit of Daemons, no heroes or monster
3 - 1 Unit of Daemons, no Heroes
4 - 1 Unit fo daemons
5 - D3 units of daemons, 1 hero max and 1 monster max
6 - D6 units of daemons, same as above

Bring down the Tyrant!:
if your general is order or destruction, one per game you can summon
Units from Stormcast Eternals.
Throw an amount of D6 that match the number of turns played.
ex: if you are in turn 3, throw 3D6 in turn 5 throw 5D6.
for every 3+ you can set-up 1 unit with the keyword "stormcast
eternals", 1 hero and 1 monster max

-Sulfur Archipelago-
when playing on a fire realm battlefield you can use these additional rules:

Missle weapons that are shot from 12" or more may reroll to-hit rolls of 1
every kind of scenerey blocks Line of Sight

Wizards can cast Fireballs:
- casting value 5
- 18"
if target unit is 1 model it suffers 1 mortal wound
unit of 2-9 models suffer D3 mortal wounds
units of 10 or more models suffer D6 mortal wounds

Bloodgysier:
place 6 dice on the battlefield (numberd 1-6)
at the start of every herophase roll 1D6 to see wich gysier becomes active.
Units within 6" of the gysier get D3 mortal wounds.
if you got a model with the keywords Priest and Chaos you can add or
substract 1 to your gysier throw.

- Realm of Life -
when playing on realm of life battlefields you can use these additional
rules:

Spontanious growth:
throw 1D6 at the start of your herophase, on 6 you may place 1 Sylvaneth
Wyldwood anywhere on the battlefield (must be flat surface)
if there are models in you way, remove them, place the wood and place
the models as near as possible to their original location.

Blooming life:
when rolling a 1 during a units battleshock test they dont flee. also
you heal any wounds sufferd for all models of this unit.

Wizards can cast Thornshield:
- casting value 6
- 18"
- until your next herophase all enemy units within 3" suffer D3 mortal
wounds.

Breeze of Pestilence:
- Nurgle Wizards can cast this spell
- casting value 4
- 12"
- choose 1 friendly unit
- enemy units within 3" of the chosen friendly unit have -1 to-hit
against that unit.
- you can choose to increase the casting value to a number of your
choice, for every point increased you can choose 1 additional unit

Hidden Foulness:
All scenery has the Hidden Foulness special rule.
during your hero phase throw 1D6 for every unit within 1" of any
scenery, add +1 if the unit is Nurgle
on 5+ the unit suffer 1 mortal wound, nurgle units heal 1 wound

Father Nurgle, be with me!:
once per game when a Nurgle Hero dies you can throw 1D6
1-2: replace the fallen hero with a chaos spawn
3-4: remove the hero
5-6: the hero doesnt die instead he heals all wounds back to full life.

------------------------------
New Battalions:
Stormcast Eternals - Heroes of the Host
1 Lord Celestant (with or without mount)
1 Lord Relictor
1 Lord Castellant
0-1 Gryph Hound units

Special Rules:
add +1 bravery to every Unit of Stormcast Eternals within 6" of any Hero
from this Battalion
if all 3 heroes are within 3" of each other, they may cast Wave of Might
during the herophase, throw 1D6 for every enemy Unit within 3" of this
battalions heroes.
on 4+ the enemy units suffer 1 Mortal Wound and must retreat if possible.

------
other stuff:
Slaanesh:
the book states that the dark prince's throne is empty because he
dissapeard and his followers are fighting for it

there are artworks in the paint schemata section of Bloodwarrios
wiedling two Axes and Bloodwarriors with double-bladed 2H axes (1 blade
on top and 1 blade on bottom)
maybe we will get a box of bloodwarriors much like the once for
Liberators with different options and special weapons.

Review of the new starter by the Escapist of all places: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/tabletop/reviews/14300-Warhammer-Age-of-Sigmar-Starter-Set-Review-Lovely-Models-Lukewar

They make a good point about random initiative, getting a double turn early on is extremely effective, especially with missile weapons.

3/5 stars seems about right, it is a decent entry game for someone new to miniature wargaming, low mini count, popular brand, easy to paint figures, straightforward rules with fistfuls of dice.

Really can't see tournament play being a thing, though.

Agreed on that Scarletsquig. I think Kings of War is something to stick to for tourney gaming.

 Kanluwen wrote:
What it really boils down to though is that different armies are going to have different aesthetic styles. Look at an Empire army consisting of nothing but State Troops and they will "all look the same" barring the weapon loadouts.

Core troops are going to look similar to each other, but not on the level of the Stormcast Eternals. Even the State Troops have individuality through different hats or helmets, armor, facial hair, shields, plumes, adornments, etc. The differences between the Stormcast are very minimal in comparison.

Philhelm wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
What it really boils down to though is that different armies are going to have different aesthetic styles. Look at an Empire army consisting of nothing but State Troops and they will "all look the same" barring the weapon loadouts.

Core troops are going to look similar to each other, but not on the level of the Stormcast Eternals. Even the State Troops have individuality through different hats or helmets, armor, facial hair, shields, plumes, adornments, etc. The differences between the Stormcast are very minimal in comparison.

Plastic Chaos Warriors really don't differ any more than the Eternals, nor do Ironbreakers, Saurus etc.
Faceless elite warriors isn't necessarily a design decision made due to a lack of imagination.

The problem with the Stormcast Eternals isn't that they all look the same but that the poses are so STATIC. Compare 10 Stormcast to 10 tactical marines and the 10 marines look much more dynamic imo.

Considering the amazing new Assualt Marine kit I was hoping for much more fluid poses for the Storm Cast. But looks like that talent worked on the chaos side of things.

I'm not sure the Stormcast Eternals are going to inspire a new wealth of younger gamers like Space Marines do. Pity. Because I freakin love AoS and want it to do as well as possible.

I think there's enough options out there for head swaps, lots of companies make alternate head bits, and I'm sure we'll start seeing sigmarine shoulder pad bits soon too. The starter set minis might be a little tougher to modify, but it looks like the standard box sprue has all separate shoulder pads and heads.

It would have been nice to see some charging or marching type legs. But looks like chaos have all the fun in that regards.

All I know is after building a few Eternals, I may end up with a Basiliean army for Kings of War.

Good to see that Ophidian Gateway get a price. It's a really nice piece of scenery.

Has anyone sorted out what the "Time of War Rules" or the Battleplans actually are?

I just opened my Age of Sigmar starter. So the book that comes with the starter box has the Liberators but only has the rules for the single Warhammer profile. Then you can go buy additional Liberators that make models with 4 separate weapon load outs and then that one comes with the rules for those weapons. I hope this doesn't become a trend of some kind..