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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/13 17:17:06
Subject: Modelling safety and wearing masks
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Whiteshield Conscript Trooper
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Hi all, I have a few of questions concerning safety when modelling.
First of all, do you guys tend to wear masks when you work? Especially during the filing process, with all the plastic particles that can be in the air when filing.
Secondly, I recently bought a set of files with a warning label on the back that said, "this product contains materials known to be toxic and cause cancer in the state of California", if I recall correctly. Is this something to be concerned about/should I return or dispose of the files?
Thank you for your time
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/13 17:21:24
Subject: Re:Modelling safety and wearing masks
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Apprehensive Inquisitorial Apprentice
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I personally don't use masks when I sand or file plastic, but I will apply water to keep the particles from flying around. A bigger sanding/filing job or working with resin would probably be a time for masks though.
As for the files, they'd probably be fine as long as you don't try to eat them. Normal usage shouldn't cause issues.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/13 17:25:23
Subject: Modelling safety and wearing masks
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Generally no. though i probably should.
but "California" labels will say ANYTHING can cause cancer so you cant take that THAT seriously.
But in general if there is going to be a lot of dust flying around you should wear a mask.
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Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/13 17:54:25
Subject: Modelling safety and wearing masks
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Apprehensive Inquisitorial Apprentice
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Desubot wrote:Generally no. though i probably should.
but "California" labels will say ANYTHING can cause cancer so you cant take that THAT seriously.
But in general if there is going to be a lot of dust flying around you should wear a mask.
I was going to object to that comment about California...until I remembered how often I see signs telling me coffee can cause cancer.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/13 18:02:32
Subject: Modelling safety and wearing masks
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Sneaky Striking Scorpion
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I usually scrape and cut as much as possible to avoid making fine dust. With a needle file I don't use a mask. With a dremel, I do.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/13 18:06:15
Subject: Modelling safety and wearing masks
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Raging Rat Ogre
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"this product contains materials known to be toxic and cause cancer in the state of California"
So if you take them across the state line or to Mexico you will be fine?
That is something to look forward too when I go visit my family in LA next year.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/13 18:10:50
Subject: Modelling safety and wearing masks
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Lesser Daemon of Chaos
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I've heard that California is actually the one causing cancer, but that's just what I've heard...
Mask would never hurt, but is not often required. Depends on how careful you want to be. Like mentioned above, bigger jobs with more debris is more of a factor. But sometimes water or good ventilation can solve the issue.
I personally work in a carbide tool grinding shop which is in fact a carcinogen, so I'm already pretty screwed...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/13 18:19:55
Subject: Modelling safety and wearing masks
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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I don't wear masks, but probably should. Those particles get in the air, and I'm sure there's plenty that will go right into your lungs and never leave.
I always use goggles with a dremel though, learned the hard way. I was drilling holes to pin a metal mini, and a little drill shaving from the metal flew off and hit me in the eyelid mere mm's away from my eyeball. Wore goggles ever since
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/13 18:32:03
Subject: Modelling safety and wearing masks
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Fixture of Dakka
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A mask is only really needed for filing resins, some of which are toxic as a dust. For any other application, you only need a mask if there's going to be LOTS of dust flying around. A needle file should not be generating that much dust, while a Dremel might.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/13 18:39:00
Subject: Modelling safety and wearing masks
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Necros wrote:I don't wear masks, but probably should. Those particles get in the air, and I'm sure there's plenty that will go right into your lungs and never leave.
I always use goggles with a dremel though, learned the hard way. I was drilling holes to pin a metal mini, and a little drill shaving from the metal flew off and hit me in the eyelid mere mm's away from my eyeball. Wore goggles ever since 
Ditto. Wear goggles, this has happened to me. I was also wearing normal glasses at the time, so get some glasses/goggles that will completely shield your eyes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/13 18:40:14
Subject: Re:Modelling safety and wearing masks
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Whiteshield Conscript Trooper
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Thanks guys, I think I'll wear a mask just to be safe but this is a huge relief.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/13 19:28:23
Subject: Re:Modelling safety and wearing masks
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Colonel
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NanoHvirus wrote:Thanks guys, I think I'll wear a mask just to be safe but this is a huge relief.
A mask is completely unnecessary if you're filing a plastic model. The debris isn't small enough to stay suspended in the air and even if it was the amount is too far too small to do any harm.
You'll breathe more dust and nastiness walking outside to check your mailbox.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/13 19:53:44
Subject: Modelling safety and wearing masks
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Lesser Daemon of Chaos
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On the goggle point, I've tread that dangerous road as well.
Glad I was wearing my glasses at the time, but push too hard on an old Xacto blade and those babys will snap. The old saying "a dull blade is more dangerous than a sharp blade" is very true.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/13 21:07:40
Subject: Modelling safety and wearing masks
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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clamclaw wrote:On the goggle point, I've tread that dangerous road as well.
Glad I was wearing my glasses at the time, but push too hard on an old Xacto blade and those babys will snap. The old saying "a dull blade is more dangerous than a sharp blade" is very true.
I took my glasses off when scraping old epoxy off a large model, and a shard of it flew into my eye. I was home-alone and had to basically hold my eye open until my tears floated it out, it was heinous.
So yeah, there's no such thing as too much face protection when dealing with anything model related. Just luck.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/14 02:12:26
Subject: Modelling safety and wearing masks
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I've read that a dust mask or better still a proper breathing apparatus is a requirement for airbrushing to avoid paint particles getting into your lungs, is there any truth to that?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/14 02:57:44
Subject: Modelling safety and wearing masks
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Fixture of Dakka
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Minimachine wrote:I've read that a dust mask or better still a proper breathing apparatus is a requirement for airbrushing to avoid paint particles getting into your lungs, is there any truth to that?
100%. You must wear a respirator unless you spray under an enclosed fume hood.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/14 04:52:43
Subject: Modelling safety and wearing masks
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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Wet paint particles arent as bad as dried overspray being disturbed.
Generally, avoid all dust in your lungs, avoid all pointy things in your eyes
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/14 08:01:52
Subject: Modelling safety and wearing masks
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Sneaky Striking Scorpion
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/14 11:18:58
Subject: Re:Modelling safety and wearing masks
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Mechanithrall
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I don't wear a mask for working with plastic, which is my preference.
Definitely when filing resin and airbrushing though.
Everything in California gives you cancer.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/14 14:37:09
Subject: Modelling safety and wearing masks
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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Back when I was in art school (25 years ago) we had an airbrush class and they never told us to wear masks. I had rainbow colored boogers every day.
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