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Posted big thing and then I realized...wait wait wait POW/MIA flag?!??!?!?!

I got nothing. Thats just pure crazy.

 CptJake wrote:
But wait, there's more!
(snip)

A banner will hide the Confederate flag until the artist of the mural is able to remove it.

Pretty dumb. My stance always has been that no government facility should fly the traitor flag in a place of honor; i.e. over a statehouse or another government building. However when it's part of a larger historical context I think it's appropriate, it's part of our history and we shouldn't whitewash our history.

I think this falls pretty strongly into the latter camp; not all civil war imagery is reflexively offensive. Some of this movement has been incredibly inane, like wanting to move confederate dead. Actually that last bit falls into shameful, and passes inane.

Relapse wrote:
This whole thing gets lamer and lamer:

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/09/us/georgia-confederate-memorial-holiday-feat/index.html

You are right... it is lame for people to want a CONFEDERATE Memorial day when we already have a memorial day which technically covers all civil war vets, north and south. To need or even want to explicitly have a day for CONFEDERATE memorial when we have no such day for virtually all the other wars shows a delusional stance and suspect to ulterior motives and meanings.

That holiday *SHOULD* be removed.

Robert E. Lee was a respectable guy as well, and he explicitly was against the confederate flag post-war. He wanted to come together, not isolate and celebrate 'the south' at the end of the war. Again... cool guy, did his job, we took his entire plantation and buried dead people on it but a state holiday serves no purpose and is a rallying cry for bigots in an age where it is simply unneeded.

The Confederacy was all evil monsters? Oh, how the victors love to write the history.

It turns out that the reality is a bit more complex than "good vs evil."

Ouze wrote:

 CptJake wrote:
But wait, there's more!
(snip)

A banner will hide the Confederate flag until the artist of the mural is able to remove it.

Pretty dumb. My stance always has been that no government facility should fly the traitor flag in a place of honor; i.e. over a statehouse or another government building. However when it's part of a larger historical context I think it's appropriate, it's part of our history and we shouldn't whitewash our history.

I think this falls pretty strongly into the latter camp; not all civil war imagery is reflexively offensive. Some of this movement has been incredibly inane, like wanting to move confederate dead. Actually that last bit falls into shameful, and passes inane.

Agreed.

 MWHistorian wrote:
The Confederacy was all evil monsters? Oh, how the victors love to write the history.

It turns out that the reality is a bit more complex than "good vs evil."

This is literally the post after a post talking about how Robert E. Lee was a pretty reasonable guy.

 MWHistorian wrote:
The Confederacy was all evil monsters? Oh, how the victors love to write the history.

Except any historian will tell you that the South definitely won the narrative. As a Southern with Confederate branches in my family tree, I can attest to it.