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Ok here is a silly question. Are you allowed to take terminators in drop pods? Ive never seen anyone do it, but I understand why. But is it because they cant be in drop pods or because they can already deepstrike?

 DaKKaLAnce wrote:
Ok here is a silly question. Are you allowed to take terminators in drop pods? Ive never seen anyone do it, but I understand why. But is it because they cant be in drop pods or because they can already deepstrike?

You can as far as I'm aware. There are no restrictions on it and we have permission to embark infantry upon a vehicle, but of course you'll only get 5 in there. I imagine the only reason people don't is because they can already DS, but I tend to take them on occasion.
It will have to be a Fast Attack Drop Pod though.

It's because they can already deep strike and you can only fit 5 in there. So you couldnt take a min-squad and attach an IC to him.

And deep striking terminators is usually a bad idea unless you are Dark Angels. But Dark Angels get all sorts of bonuses when they deep strike terminators so they would lose those bonuses.

You used to only be able to put Space Wolf Terminators in Drop Pods.

Drop Pods used to be under the Dedicated Transports Role, so unavailable for independent choice, and most Terminator units did not have them as Dedicated Transport options.

 Icculus wrote:
It's because they can already deep strike and you can only fit 5 in there. So you couldnt take a min-squad and attach an IC to him.

And deep striking terminators is usually a bad idea unless you are Dark Angels. But Dark Angels get all sorts of bonuses when they deep strike terminators so they would lose those bonuses.

I don't think they would lose their twin-linked and, in their detachment, Run and Shoot. Those rules just say "on the turn they arrive from Deep Strike" and I'd think Drop Pods qualify.

axisofentropy wrote:

 Icculus wrote:
It's because they can already deep strike and you can only fit 5 in there. So you couldnt take a min-squad and attach an IC to him.

And deep striking terminators is usually a bad idea unless you are Dark Angels. But Dark Angels get all sorts of bonuses when they deep strike terminators so they would lose those bonuses.

I don't think they would lose their twin-linked and, in their detachment, Run and Shoot. Those rules just say "on the turn they arrive from Deep Strike" and I'd think Drop Pods qualify.

Hmm, perhaps you're right.
But dont they also get the option to deep strike without scatter? If so what is the point of paying for a drop pod? Does that not scattering rule apply to a drop pod they are in? Becasue if it did it could be useful to land that drop pod on an objective.

 Icculus wrote:
But dont they also get the option to deep strike without scatter? If so what is the point of paying for a drop pod? Does that not scattering rule apply to a drop pod they are in? Becasue if it did it could be useful to land that drop pod on an objective.

Only the Deathwing special character (Belial) doesn't scatter, but it only applies to himself and his unit, not any transport they are embarked upon.

Now that Deathwing have lost the ability to DS on turn 1, that is what I would say is the major advantage for them to be in one.

It's because it's pretty difficult to get a Terminator Squad in a drop pod.

With that said you'll see one with an IC in Terminator armor from time to time.


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 Quanar wrote:

 Icculus wrote:
But dont they also get the option to deep strike without scatter? If so what is the point of paying for a drop pod? Does that not scattering rule apply to a drop pod they are in? Becasue if it did it could be useful to land that drop pod on an objective.

Only the Deathwing special character (Belial) doesn't scatter, but it only applies to himself and his unit, not any transport they are embarked upon.

Now that Deathwing have lost the ability to DS on turn 1, that is what I would say is the major advantage for them to be in one.

Don't forget teleport homers are all over in the Ravenwing, but they don't help drop pods.

The only reason I would want the DP for my terminators is for a "safer" DS. 5 man squads is fine, they will go in and shoot stuff or get near an objective to secure it. The only reaon I thought to ask

A teleport homer is far cheaper than a drop pod, doesn't take up a FOC slot, etc.

I see myself using Drop Pod assault termies in the near future lists.
It is 35 pts and a fast attack slot, but it is a pretty reliable DS and more importantly a t2 charge that does not require a Land Raider

Ok next question: can members of the Deathwing strike Force or the the other Deathwing formation ride in a pod first turn?

In theory. One could buy a FA Drop Pod, and put them in it, the same way other armies have been renting drop pods for a while now.


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axisofentropy wrote:

 Icculus wrote:
It's because they can already deep strike and you can only fit 5 in there. So you couldnt take a min-squad and attach an IC to him.

And deep striking terminators is usually a bad idea unless you are Dark Angels. But Dark Angels get all sorts of bonuses when they deep strike terminators so they would lose those bonuses.

I don't think they would lose their twin-linked and, in their detachment, Run and Shoot. Those rules just say "on the turn they arrive from Deep Strike" and I'd think Drop Pods qualify.

I think they might lose their ability. The Drop Pod Deep Strikes, they disembark, I think they've had to go out of their way to refer to them as units that disembarked from deep striking vehicles, but I'm not sure of that, so it would be something to look at.

Breton,
I personally find the Deep Strike Special Rule to be a poorly written and self-breaking, the entirety of it is a problem, but it is far more telling when it comes to any questions related to the Unit inside of a Deep Striking transport. I would highly recommend looking back through the history of this place in order to see the extent of the madness that comes with 'did the Unit inside Deep Strike' type of questions. For all of our sake though, can we not bring up the matter in this thread as the question asked about has been answered?

It is legal to put Terminators into Drop Pods.

can we not bring up the matter in this thread as the question asked about has been answered?

I didn't bring it up. someone else brought up the twin linked rule out of a drop pod rule- which you just admitted is a can of worms, which the person who assumed they'd still have it should know about.