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With the new Ahriman novel coming in september, and all the talk about the Black Library, i was wondering what are the biggest threats to the current 999.M42?
On the top of my head:
Tyranid x Orc battle in Octarius

Abbadon's 13th Crusade
Ynnead's possible Birth
Silent King uniting the Necrons
Hive Fleet aimed at Holy Terra (and what is making the tiranids flee, my guess is the c'tan Outsider)
Cypher killing the Emprah
Ahriman learning the secrets of the Black Library
Cegorach unleashing his plan with his Harlequins to deceive Slaneesh
Return of the Lion, or any primarch that is currently alive/possibly healing
Crescent rise of psykers
Oh, and the Terminus Decree.

The Tyranids possibly running from something is only theoretical, and is largely a fan-made theory.

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 Desubot wrote:
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Good one.
As for tyranids, i put the "()" in purpose as a possibility, but the main threat remains at the Hives aimed at Terra.

If we are talking about events, then (off the top of head, correct me if I'm wrong):

- Octarius War, if the status quo is threatened.

- Abbadon gaining permanent foothold at Cadia, securing Cadian Gate.

I think it's important to note what each scenario actually threathens. The Octarius War destabilising would screw up the Imperium bigtime, whereas the Tyranids arriving in force would threathen anything.

I also believe a good number of these happenings could actually spur the factions together in desperation. If the Tyranids arrive or the Black Crusade succeeds, the Necrons, or at least a lot of them, will likely begin fighting them chiefly, ignoring the Imperium or maybe outright helping them.

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 The Wise Dane wrote:
I think it's important to note what each scenario actually threathens. The Octarius War destabilising would screw up the Imperium bigtime, whereas the Tyranids arriving in force would threathen anything.

I also believe a good number of these happenings could actually spur the factions together in desperation. If the Tyranids arrive or the Black Crusade succeeds, the Necrons, or at least a lot of them, will likely begin fighting them chiefly, ignoring the Imperium or maybe outright helping them.

I just really hope they don't pull a fantasy-esque End Times on 40k. There are many major plotlines that needs to be solved in 42M that i don't believe a Greater Evil (tyranids) uniting the factions would fit the grimdark theme. It's way too overused. And by the way they are slowly advancing the lore, it seems to me that every faction is preparing their endgame.

That's the point of the setting. These are the End of Times.

Exactly, it's the best place to stop the plot - Everything is getting hot, and everything's up into the air.

Or, if this isn't good enough, I'd love a short jump into the future, in which the Black Crusade has broken through and allowed the Legions and Daemons to really spill through, while the Tyrands has come in a bit more of a force, forcing a lot of the other factions to ally, which creates tension and fun and stuff.

Ghazzy already cleaned Ocataria of Tyranids. It details this war in his supplement but yeah looks like another tendril is coming to answer the psychic beacon he let off after winning. But that event is actually a minor stepping stone to a bigger event that Ghazzy and his gods are planning. At the end of his fluff it states that even though another tendril is coming he is making plans to leave and find another Waaaaaagh! to boost it's signal to a perpetual level in the same he's done for Armegeddon and Ocataria. The goal is to make all the Waaaaagh! bigger until it gets high enough in the galaxy for Gork and Mork to rip out of the Warp and enter Real Space. Expect next fluff to start detailing the next Waaaaagh! he decided to go find and boost. He's done what he needed to do at both Armegeddon and Octaria. He does plan to make return trips to these previous places to keep thing going perpetually but first Orkimedes needs to perfect the tellyporta to work across galactic distances. That or Ghazzy's death would be a big event and plot device in itself.

Nowadays it's the Tyranids. Ever since Newcrons the threat of Necrons has diminished to about the same as Orks.

Abbadon taking control of the Cadian gate in his 13th Black Crusade and also the Tyranids continuing to increase in number.

As a minor threat, the Lion waking up. At first everyone will be glad of his return and with him and the Dark Angels and their successor chapters under his command (an entire Space marine legion!) he will be more than capable of kicking Abbadon's bottom right into touch. The danger then would lie in the Lords of Terra accepting him or rather him taking any crap from them. The Lion was never the most tolerant of Primarchs.

I don't know I think we are about to witness the Ork race 'tank' the galactic Tyranid onslaught with Gork and Mork leading them. Ragarork will happen but it won't be driven against the humans as originally perceived but rather it'll see Da Big Fight in the form of the incoming Tyranid invasion. I predict the Tyranids being held in check by a great big galactic wall of Green while the other races use their intellect to find the key targets/methods/weapons that can be strategically used to end the Tyranid threat.

 ProwlerPC wrote:
Ghazzy already cleaned Ocataria of Tyranids. It details this war in his supplement but yeah looks like another tendril is coming to answer the psychic beacon he let off after winning. But that event is actually a minor stepping stone to a bigger event that Ghazzy and his gods are planning. At the end of his fluff it states that even though another tendril is coming he is making plans to leave and find another Waaaaaagh! to boost it's signal to a perpetual level in the same he's done for Armegeddon and Ocataria. The goal is to make all the Waaaaagh! bigger until it gets high enough in the galaxy for Gork and Mork to rip out of the Warp and enter Real Space. Expect next fluff to start detailing the next Waaaaagh! he decided to go find and boost. He's done what he needed to do at both Armegeddon and Octaria. He does plan to make return trips to these previous places to keep thing going perpetually but first Orkimedes needs to perfect the tellyporta to work across galactic distances. That or Ghazzy's death would be a big event and plot device in itself.

I didn't know that. Thanks for the heads up!
Guys, what about Ahriman? Or even the Eldar? Aren't they big hitters after all?
Ahriman's been getting a lot of attention lately, and so has the Harlequins.
Cypher and the Terminus Decree for me are the most irrevelant of all the speculations.

Abbadon taking control of the Cadian gate in his 13th Black Crusade and also the Tyranids continuing to increase in number.

As a minor threat, the Lion waking up. At first everyone will be glad of his return and with him and the Dark Angels and their successor chapters under his command (an entire Space marine legion!) he will be more than capable of kicking Abbadon's bottom right into touch. The danger then would lie in the Lords of Terra accepting him or rather him taking any crap from them. The Lion was never the most tolerant of Primarchs.

I'm sure the other Traitor Primarchs won't let that unnoticed.

Age of Sigmar.

Seriously, 40k has been in the 'End Times' forever. Any number of impending distasters/events could trigger a massive reboot of the setting.

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Beat me to it

Ima say the IOM. The rate they nuke worlds is getting ridiculous, and someone is going to orchestrate a mass exodus from Imperial rule sooner or later.

The BRBs of the last two editions have made a really big deal about an increase in psykers being born, the black ships and Terra being unable to process them quick enough, resulting in a huge number of unprocessed psykers knocking about, and therefore a huge increase in daemonic incursion.

The Emperor's plan is to process psykers and assist mankind in their evolution to a true psychic race (by eliminating the dangerous ones), but it seems that plan is about to fail, just as the Emperor's throne begins to fail him.

nareik wrote:
The BRBs of the last two editions have made a really big deal about an increase in psykers being born, the black ships and Terra being unable to process them quick enough, resulting in a huge number of unprocessed psykers knocking about, and therefore a huge increase in daemonic incursion.

The Emperor's plan is to process psykers and assist mankind in their evolution to a true psychic race (by eliminating the dangerous ones), but it seems that plan is about to fail, just as the Emperor's throne begins to fail him.

Thanks! I'll add that to the list.

Biggest volume wise are Orks, Nids, and possibly Chrons. Most urgent threat is Chaos due to psykers.

The appeal of the setting is how it feels like it could go either way. If the IoM won or lost it would leave a bad taste. I wouldn't like it. I think campaigns to determine lore would be fun, but the FINALITY of end times is upsetting.

 ProwlerPC wrote:
Ghazzy already cleaned Ocataria of Tyranids. It details this war in his supplement but yeah looks like another tendril is coming to answer the psychic beacon he let off after winning. But that event is actually a minor stepping stone to a bigger event that Ghazzy and his gods are planning. At the end of his fluff it states that even though another tendril is coming he is making plans to leave and find another Waaaaaagh! to boost it's signal to a perpetual level in the same he's done for Armegeddon and Ocataria. The goal is to make all the Waaaaagh! bigger until it gets high enough in the galaxy for Gork and Mork to rip out of the Warp and enter Real Space. Expect next fluff to start detailing the next Waaaaagh! he decided to go find and boost. He's done what he needed to do at both Armegeddon and Octaria. He does plan to make return trips to these previous places to keep thing going perpetually but first Orkimedes needs to perfect the tellyporta to work across galactic distances. That or Ghazzy's death would be a big event and plot device in itself.

This might be a way for them to keep it grimdark should they have the Emperor die and come back even more powerful, or bring back the Primarchs. This way, everybody's getting stronger, so we maintain the stalemate. You have Necrons resorting to the C'tan in desperation, Ork Gods ripping through the Warp, The Emperor dying and becoming an even more powerful God of the Warp, Terra becoming overrun by Daemons, way more Hive Fleets busting through (varying in power, some really weak, some really strong), Cadia getting overrun, Cegorach fething Slaanesh hard. ahriman unlocking the Black Library, and so much more! Altogether, it sounds like an excellent end times show-down. The only ones who don't really get any face time are the Tau, but they could get used by the Necrons to further their own agenda, so I suppose they could be used, as well.

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 ProwlerPC wrote:
Ghazzy already cleaned Ocataria of Tyranids. It details this war in his supplement but yeah looks like another tendril is coming to answer the psychic beacon he let off after winning. But that event is actually a minor stepping stone to a bigger event that Ghazzy and his gods are planning. At the end of his fluff it states that even though another tendril is coming he is making plans to leave and find another Waaaaaagh! to boost it's signal to a perpetual level in the same he's done for Armegeddon and Ocataria. The goal is to make all the Waaaaagh! bigger until it gets high enough in the galaxy for Gork and Mork to rip out of the Warp and enter Real Space. Expect next fluff to start detailing the next Waaaaagh! he decided to go find and boost. He's done what he needed to do at both Armegeddon and Octaria. He does plan to make return trips to these previous places to keep thing going perpetually but first Orkimedes needs to perfect the tellyporta to work across galactic distances. That or Ghazzy's death would be a big event and plot device in itself.

This might be a way for them to keep it grimdark should they have the Emperor die and come back even more powerful, or bring back the Primarchs. This way, everybody's getting stronger, so we maintain the stalemate. You have Necrons resorting to the C'tan in desperation, Ork Gods ripping through the Warp, The Emperor dying and becoming an even more powerful God of the Warp, Terra becoming overrun by Daemons, way more Hive Fleets busting through (varying in power, some really weak, some really strong), Cadia getting overrun, Cegorach fething Slaanesh hard. ahriman unlocking the Black Library, and so much more! Altogether, it sounds like an excellent end times show-down. The only ones who don't really get any face time are the Tau, but they could get used by the Necrons to further their own agenda, so I suppose they could be used, as well.

I believe the ethereals have something hidden to safeguard the Tau. A webway entrance or some other kind of teleportation device to avoid the End Times