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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/18 06:46:37
Subject: Would a 2nd AoS starter set be useful?
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Well, I already have one starter set.
A second one would give me (almost) two playable armies:
Stormcast Eternals:
Lord Celestant on Dracoth
Lord Relictor
20 Liberators
6 Prosecutors
6 Retributors
Add 5-10 Judicators and eventually a box of Liberators to mix weapons, and sell the 2nd set of Heros on ebay.
This gives a rather cost-effective army at the 100 wounds level.
Khorne Bloodbound:
Mighty Lord of Khorne
Bloodsecrator
Bloodstoker
2 Khorgoraths
10 Blood Warriors
40 Bloodreavers
Sell the 2nd set of Heros on ebay. Not sure where to go from here?
I'd be inclined to add some Chaos Chosen on Steeds and some Chariots.
Thoughts?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/23 15:45:31
Subject: Would a 2nd AoS starter set be useful?
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Newbie Black Templar Neophyte
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Well, you're gonna end up with plenty of repeats, not necessarily a bad thing, but it bothers some. I know you're looking to army build, but at the rates things are going, you could basically make back the price of the box selling the Bloodreavers, Retributors, and the extra book. Especially if you get the set on Amazon for 90 bucks.
Where to go next depends on what you're looking to do. Is this for demos? Do you just want both armies around so your friends can come as they are on Warhammer Wedensday? Just being a collector?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/23 16:35:06
Subject: Would a 2nd AoS starter set be useful?
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Ghastly Grave Guard
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I bought two sets. Yes you get repeats but if you have bit modelling experience you can change up some parts here and there. As for additions grab some chaos warhounds and a couple of chariots and for the stormcast two boxes of judicators will go a long way
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/23 16:42:12
Subject: Re:Would a 2nd AoS starter set be useful?
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I've gotten a total of four sets now and do not regret it. If you get a box of new liberators you will have more than enough extra parts to turn your extra primes into basic troops. Also you could equip primes with the grandhammer/grandsword. Very useful ability. I sold off my extra characters and made back a good chunk of what I spent.
That being said I would recommend something with mobility for Chaos. Chariots or Knights are both very cost effective options. For the Eternals the biggest thing they are lacking outside of ranged combat (which is on the way) is a model to dispel. Warrior priest are good choices for this.
Back to the original point, I would strongly recommend a second starter. The Retributors and Prosecutors really need the extra bodies.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/23 18:05:09
Subject: Would a 2nd AoS starter set be useful?
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Been Around the Block
Middle of the U.S.
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You get the best bang for your buck with getting the starter set a second time. But, if you want some of the alternate weapon options, you may want to think about getting the individual kits instead. That way, you can have some Liberators with different weapons. Also, apparently there is a multi-part kit coming with the Retributors that allows them to be two other units, one with a glaive and one with IIRC a greatsword.
Cost comparison would probably be a box of 5 Liberators and a box of 3 Retributors (so you can kit them out separately) for a bit less ($25 at retail my guess) than the price of the box set.
Doing that, for a bit more than the same price as the starter (if you're only looking at the Stormcasts) you can get those and the character with the Gryph Hound, which means you would have many more unique models.
As far as the chaos stuff goes, It would be nice to have another version of the Khorgorath that you can maybe convert to look unique. Could also take the chaos lord and mess with using a different hound type of model to add more unique options.
Having 5 more Blood Warriors would be nice and make a solid 10-man unit. 20 more marauder guys, I'm not sure how necessary that is from the game perspective. And then you will have a lot of guys that will look quite the same, which may be an aesthetic issue.
I debated getting a second set, but think I would rather try to get more unique models for my units. TBH, I'm not buying any of the individual units yet as at retail, $50 a box is a tad more than I want to commit to the game yet...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/24 12:47:37
Subject: Would a 2nd AoS starter set be useful?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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HobbyBox wrote:You get the best bang for your buck with getting the starter set a second time. But, if you want some of the alternate weapon options, you may want to think about getting the individual kits instead. That way, you can have some Liberators with different weapons. Also, apparently there is a multi-part kit coming with the Retributors that allows them to be two other units, one with a glaive and one with IIRC a greatsword.
Cost comparison would probably be a box of 5 Liberators and a box of 3 Retributors (so you can kit them out separately) for a bit less ($25 at retail my guess) than the price of the box set.
From GW the basic Liberator is a USD$10 unit, so 10 would cost USD$100. The starter box is USD $125 for 10 liberators and 39 other models. The extra weapons in the liberator box would need to be very compelling to make that a good choice.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/24 14:12:59
Subject: Would a 2nd AoS starter set be useful?
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Been Around the Block
Middle of the U.S.
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Nepenthe wrote:HobbyBox wrote:You get the best bang for your buck with getting the starter set a second time. But, if you want some of the alternate weapon options, you may want to think about getting the individual kits instead. That way, you can have some Liberators with different weapons. Also, apparently there is a multi-part kit coming with the Retributors that allows them to be two other units, one with a glaive and one with IIRC a greatsword.
Cost comparison would probably be a box of 5 Liberators and a box of 3 Retributors (so you can kit them out separately) for a bit less ($25 at retail my guess) than the price of the box set.
From GW the basic Liberator is a USD$10 unit, so 10 would cost USD$100. The starter box is USD $125 for 10 liberators and 39 other models. The extra weapons in the liberator box would need to be very compelling to make that a good choice.
Ultimately it depends upon what aesthetic you are going for with the army. I agree that the starter set is an amazing deal, which is what took me off of the fence to buy one of them. Will I buy a second? Probably not. I would rather infuse the army with more variety in units to get away from the whole Hammer Brothers feel.
Wait a second, I think I just came up with the theme for my army: The Hammer Bros!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/27 07:18:04
Subject: Would a 2nd AoS starter set be useful?
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Well, I'd use the models for gaming.
A second starter set is a double-edged sword.
I find 5 Bloodwarriors, 1 Khorngorath, 3 Prosecutors, and 3 Retributors quite useful.
However, I'd combine the 10 Liberators with a costly 5 men Liberator box for more weapon variety and adding Primes.
Another 20 Bloodreavers are probably too much in a 100 wound army.
The heros are a different story. Unless one is interested in coverting, they are quite useless. I've looked at EBay and they sell rather badly. 5 € for such a model is not much.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2015/07/27 07:19:40
Former moderator 40kOnline
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/27 07:33:07
Subject: Would a 2nd AoS starter set be useful?
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Fixture of Dakka
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wuestenfux wrote:Well, I'd use the models for gaming.
A second starter set is a double-edged sword.
I find 5 Bloodwarriors, 1 Khorngorath, 3 Prosecutors, and 3 Retributors quite useful.
However, I'd combine the 10 Liberators with a costly 5 men Liberator box for more weapon variety and adding Primes.
Another 20 Bloodreavers are probably too much in a 100 wound army.
The heros are a different story. Unless one is interested in coverting, they are quite useless. I've looked at EBay and they sell rather badly. 5 € for such a model is not much.
That's because everyone else is doing the same thing as you, and they don't need second heroes
It's a wonderful way to get a really nice model to paint (only), though, if that's what you're into.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/27 07:44:05
Subject: Would a 2nd AoS starter set be useful?
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Talys wrote: wuestenfux wrote:Well, I'd use the models for gaming.
A second starter set is a double-edged sword.
I find 5 Bloodwarriors, 1 Khorngorath, 3 Prosecutors, and 3 Retributors quite useful.
However, I'd combine the 10 Liberators with a costly 5 men Liberator box for more weapon variety and adding Primes.
Another 20 Bloodreavers are probably too much in a 100 wound army.
The heros are a different story. Unless one is interested in coverting, they are quite useless. I've looked at EBay and they sell rather badly. 5 € for such a model is not much.
That's because everyone else is doing the same thing as you, and they don't need second heroes
It's a wonderful way to get a really nice model to paint (only), though, if that's what you're into.
Indeed, everybody seems to do the same atm.
However, I find the models quite appealing. They have different poses which is lacking in Fantasy at least if you look at the core units.
Selling the 2nd set of heros is an option but as you said its probably better to keep them for converting.
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