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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/05 04:54:51
Subject: Does anyone vastly prefer metal models?
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Guardsman with Flashlight
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Having been into warhammer since 03' or so, I came into the hobby being used to metal models. To me they conveyed the importance of a unit, as they were somehow more substantial and important feeling than the bulk of your army's troops.
I like the reusability of them. You can strip and repaint a metal model almost infinitely. Plastics and resins don't do so well, at least in my experience.
I feel like I'm getting what I paid for with a metal model.
Metals are less likely to break, and won't warp over time like resins can.
I've just been feeling rather nostalgic for them lately, I suppose. I've put together 3 entirely pewter (with the exception of vehicles) armies this year. One eldar, one inquisition, and one chaos nurgle marine force. It really bums me out that we've seen the last of the metal models from GW.
Do any of you prefer metals these days?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/05 05:29:26
Subject: Does anyone vastly prefer metal models?
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Stalwart Space Marine
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You mean do i prefer Failcast? The answer is no. Metal models are way better and sit better in tough spots on the table! I don't find that metal has much less "sharp" detail. Metal all the way.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/05 05:34:25
Subject: Does anyone vastly prefer metal models?
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Ork-Hunting Inquisitorial Xenokiller
Strike Cruiser Vladislav Volkov
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Plastic is the simplest for me to work with. Finecast is tolerable but I try to keep it to a minimum on a given model. Metal is a huge pain in the ass to model with. It's unnecessarily heavy and nearly impossible to modify with simple tools, though I once had good results using a Dremel tool.
I like the weight though, so I just superglue metal washers and similar things to the underside of the bases of my models. Helps them stand up on uneven surfaces and inclines.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/05 05:40:43
Subject: Does anyone vastly prefer metal models?
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Powerful Spawning Champion
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I do like metal, wouldn't say I vastly prefer it.
But I've still got some old Tallarn and Valhallen figures that are in great shape. They've been carried all over the place, dropped, had things dropped on them... They've definitely endured better than plastic ones. And I like the heft that they have, and for some reason I feel more confident painting metal than plastic or resin.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/05 05:45:12
Subject: Re:Does anyone vastly prefer metal models?
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Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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They each have their issues, but the metal models I own require a lot less hassle to prepare. For example, I have a metal Pedro Kantor and a "Fine"cast Commander Dante.
My Pedro had a lot of little metal chunks that needed to be picked off, but otherwise he was flawless. The big issue I ran into with him was getting his back banner attached. It kept falling off no matter how well it was glued. It even ended up ruining some of the detail on his backpack. I pinned it together and now it is solid and perfect. He is a bit heavy on his basing material, but otherwise very good.
My Commander Dante was riddled with little triangular pieces of resin jutting out from multiple areas. Every time I though I got them all, I would find another one. His axe was also very warped. I put him in warm water to fix it, but despite that the axe snapped off right above his hand. I was able to pin it back together, but it still irritates me. I haven't finished painting him yet. I will say that the resin does make it easier to attach him to a base(Dante only has one foot touching the base), and I am betting he will have a pretty solid hold when he is finally done. If he were metal, I would be afraid of him falling off the base all the time. And since he has such a small footprint(ha!) he would be hard to do something to aid in him staying attached, such as pinning.
So that is my two cents.
EDIT: Forgot to talk about plastic. Plastic is great for troops, and contrary to what you said, there are ways to strip it fairly effortlessly (soak it in denatured alcohol, it does not harm the plastic and strips the paint right off). Plastic is infinitely easier to deal with than any other material. It holds it shape like metal, but can be altered and modeled with without much effort like resin. Best of both worlds. And there have been some pretty good advances in how plastic is molded that it can actually be pretty detailed. Look at the new Sternguard, Tacticals (both the C:SM and BA), Devs, and Assault Marines. The old plastic kits for these(except Sternguard since they didn't have plastics) looked pretty awful. They lacked detail and looked a bit like they were made of Play-Doh. The new kits are very crisp.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/05 05:49:22
Subject: Re:Does anyone vastly prefer metal models?
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Hellish Haemonculus
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Metal is preferable for super detailed minis (I hate resin), but for troops I prefer plastic.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/05 07:15:53
Subject: Re:Does anyone vastly prefer metal models?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I prefer metal, but for some minis from DarkSword a so I would rather take plastic.
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"Faith is the soul of any army; be it vested in primitive religion or enlightened truth. It makes even the least soldier mighty, the craven is remade worthy and through its balm any hardship may be endured. Faith ennobles all of the worlds the soldier undertakes be they so base or vile, and imports to them the golden spark of transcendent purpose."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/05 07:39:04
Subject: Does anyone vastly prefer metal models?
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Ruthless Interrogator
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I strongly dislike metal models, it's difficult to change the pose in some cases impossible. They can, depending on the pose be really awkward to paint. I grew up with metal, music and models and have no desire to see either back on my radar!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/05 10:58:33
Subject: Re:Does anyone vastly prefer metal models?
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Fixture of Dakka
West Michigan, deep in Whitebread, USA
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Metal over Finecast so bad that I go to Ebay for the metal versions of models that went over to Finecast. I pay less than the exorbitant GW finecast prices, and the models are magnitudes sturdier than that fossilized shaving cream.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/05 11:52:28
Subject: Does anyone vastly prefer metal models?
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Thane of Dol Guldur
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Plastic all the way for me.
Smaller metal models like infantry size are clumsy on unlevel terrain. Thin parts on metal models are brittle. At least with GW, metal models (when they sold them) didn't come with lots of extra bits, and in many cases, no extra bits. Metal models are much more of a PITA to convert/kitbash than plastic.
But when compared to resin, I'll take metal every time. I don't even care for the forgeworld resin, let alone failcast.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/05 11:55:29
Subject: Re:Does anyone vastly prefer metal models?
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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I prefer metal models. I will still go on ebay and hunt for the metal version if there was one for my IG and SM.
I might be slightly biased also as my primary army is 100% metal,  Sisters of Battle
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/05 12:23:29
Subject: Re:Does anyone vastly prefer metal models?
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
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Obviously Metal >>>>> Finecrap. But that's not a great achievement, since virtually anything beats Finecrap as a product.
I'm a fan of metal models, perhaps because I got introduced to the hobby in the very early 00s when metal models, in my opinion, reached an unprecedented quality level (Rackham, some of the GW ranges of the time too, etc) while plastic models still had quite a goofy feeling attached to them.
It's been almost 15 years and plastic models have improved massively, but I still prefer metal with the single exception of large models and big units.
I'm not a big fan of resin, although I do already own some very nice resin kits.
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Progress is like a herd of pigs: everybody is interested in the produced benefits, but nobody wants to deal with all the resulting gak.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/05 12:38:02
Subject: Re:Does anyone vastly prefer metal models?
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Experienced Maneater
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If I want a character that I know I will not modify, metal is fine.
However, if I want it for a conversion or use it as a base for a conversion, I prefer plastic or any kind of resin, even Finecast, because let's be honest, the quality is okay nowadays.
Overall, I prefer bulding plastic models.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/05 13:44:14
Subject: Re:Does anyone vastly prefer metal models?
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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If given the choice, metal is always the preferred material. Metal is durable, tolerant of temperature extremes, it has intrinsic value, and since wargaming is a tactile hobby, it has a reassuring heft  I don't dislike plastic and resin, I just find more value in metal.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/05 17:23:38
Subject: Does anyone vastly prefer metal models?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Minneapolis, MN
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I like plastic, but metal is preferable to failcast.
One thing I love about metal is how easy it is to strip paint.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/05 17:32:33
Subject: Does anyone vastly prefer metal models?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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In terms of ease to work with: Plastic > Resin > Metal > Finecast
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/05 17:46:58
Subject: Does anyone vastly prefer metal models?
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Shas'la with Pulse Carbine
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Plastic for me, metal is too clunky.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/05 19:05:26
Subject: Re:Does anyone vastly prefer metal models?
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Fiery Bright Wizard
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I like them sparingly, it's nice for your HQ to weigh a pound and a half, but beyond that, not for line troops
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I'll never be able to repay CA for making GW realize that The Old World was a cash cow, left to die in a field. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/05 19:43:02
Subject: Does anyone vastly prefer metal models?
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Twisting Tzeentch Horror
Canada
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Metal all the way.
I went to great lengths to have 9 metal Oblitorators and if I could I would have my spawn and land raiders in metal as well.
I have many old metal models and to be honest I'm going to be buried with them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/05 19:44:47
Subject: Does anyone vastly prefer metal models?
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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh
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What if they had Super Heavy Walkers and Tanks in pewter?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/05 19:46:19
Subject: Does anyone vastly prefer metal models?
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Auspicious Daemonic Herald
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Filch wrote:What if they had Super Heavy Walkers and Tanks in pewter?
They do.
Look up pewter Thunderhawk
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/05 20:10:34
Subject: Does anyone vastly prefer metal models?
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Twisting Tzeentch Horror
Canada
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Filch wrote:What if they had Super Heavy Walkers and Tanks in pewter?
Maybe people would stop with the knight spam if they had to carry a 100lbs of models just to play the list.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/05 20:14:10
Subject: Does anyone vastly prefer metal models?
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Brigadier General
The new Sick Man of Europe
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Filch wrote:What if they had Super Heavy Walkers and Tanks in pewter?
BTD and the others used to do all metal WW2 tanks back about 15 years ago, they are still only sale but nobody buys them now resin and plastic versions are widely avalible.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/05 20:16:38
Subject: Does anyone vastly prefer metal models?
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Thane of Dol Guldur
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Konrax wrote: Filch wrote:What if they had Super Heavy Walkers and Tanks in pewter?
Maybe people would stop with the knight spam if they had to carry a 100lbs of models just to play the list.
Love it! Now I have an excuse. "Sorry man, I only play against metal Knights."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/05 20:21:40
Subject: Does anyone vastly prefer metal models?
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Bryan Ansell
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I love my metal minis.I like the weight of them the surface texture (or lack of), the colour.
Its probably nostalgia as all the mini s i collected early on in my hobby life were metal.
I like plastic too and resin. But I have a real soft spot for pewter and white metal.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/05 21:09:09
Subject: Does anyone vastly prefer metal models?
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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Nobody puts a plastic dreadnought in a sock to administer a beating.
...Just sayin'
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/05 21:11:32
Subject: Does anyone vastly prefer metal models?
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Preacher of the Emperor
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Metal. I like the weight. In fact I glue a pound of nuts in each of my rhinos to make them more weighty.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/05 21:47:15
Subject: Re:Does anyone vastly prefer metal models?
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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Brennonjw wrote:I like them sparingly, it's nice for your HQ to weigh a pound and a half, but beyond that, not for line troops
But what about Sisters of Battle? Our line troops are metal. So are our HQ, and elites, and fast attack, and heavy support
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/06 02:32:16
Subject: Re:Does anyone vastly prefer metal models?
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Possessed Khorne Marine Covered in Spikes
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I've had terrible luck trying to assemble metal models. Usually ends badly, Plastic for me 100%
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WAAAGH!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/06 04:16:02
Subject: Does anyone vastly prefer metal models?
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Camouflaged Zero
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For unique models, metal. But for troops and things to convert, plastic (although that still depends, got a vostroyan army but that was more in the unique category for me). The detail you can get on metal is also quite good, e.g. infinity
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If your attack is going too well, you have walked into an ambush
The easy way is always mined
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